DOJ says Yale medical school discriminated against Asian, White applicants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your doctor's taxes is important can I ask for a white doctor if I'm white? I would think and hope the answer would be 'no.'

Seeing a doctor is not like getting an oil change or buying a gallon of milk or learning soccer. It's an intimate relationship and some.peopme may need a white doctor or an Asian doctor or a female doctor or a black doctor for whatever reason.

No it isn’t like that at all. These are highly trained professionals and their qualifications should have nothing to do with their gender or race. You are exposing your own ignorance.

This. And by the way one of the smartest docs in my T3 med school is an underrepresented race. These newer practices of significantly lowering the bar diminish all that she worked for. It makes more sense to boost the educational opportunities of underrepresented students in elementary, middle and high school and get more in the pipeline.
Another unpopular opinion: males need the same boost early on. Medical schools went from predominantly male applicants in 1992 to predominantly female in a span of 25 years. Schools now struggle to have the 50-50 gender balance in med school, especially schools that are not in the top-20 med schools. There is going to be a significant shortage of male docs. The answer is not to lower the bar at med school entry, it is to encourage more males all the way through starting in elementary, so careers that require college and professional school are valued by males.

[Anonymous]

^ I am female. The parent of sons and a D. What I have seen is disheartening indeed for the future of males in top jobs. I am tired of summer stem programs that eliminate my boys from applying just because of their gender. It kills me to say so as a woman physician but it has gone way too far in the other direction.

[Anonymous]

Like with the SAT, LSAT and GRE, if you are going to admit only high scoring MCAT applicants, then you will have practically no black doctors.

A balance has to be struck but it looks like whatever Yale was doing was pretty close to selecting by race when you get to a 30x advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Pure merit isn’t test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Why would maga care if a lot of doctors are Asian? Does maga have respect for doctors of any race?

You didn't get it. Maga care about their white kids not getting into colleges and about them not being able to find white doctors. They blame it on DEI but even without the DEI, their kids will not get higher chances because in a merit based process Asian will fill all the spots.

Asians consistently fail holistic admissions. It’s not racism but rather being one dimensional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Way to cope. They’re actually smarter. Some are hard working some are not. But they’re smarter on average for sure.

Your racism is shining through.

[Anonymous]

It depends. For high stakes surgery, race is irrelevant to me. I want the most intelligent and highly competent doctor available. Shaun Murphy would do. But for a routine annual checkup, sure, I would prefer someone who is a good communicator and pleasant to deal with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Why would maga care if a lot of doctors are Asian? Does maga have respect for doctors of any race?

You didn't get it. Maga care about their white kids not getting into colleges and about them not being able to find white doctors. They blame it on DEI but even without the DEI, their kids will not get higher chances because in a merit based process Asian will fill all the spots.

Asians consistently fail holistic admissions. It’s not racism but rather being one dimensional.

It's not being one dimensional but rather racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Why would maga care if a lot of doctors are Asian? Does maga have respect for doctors of any race?

You didn't get it. Maga care about their white kids not getting into colleges and about them not being able to find white doctors. They blame it on DEI but even without the DEI, their kids will not get higher chances because in a merit based process Asian will fill all the spots.

Asians consistently fail holistic admissions. It’s not racism but rather being one dimensional.

It's not being one dimensional but rather racism.

Cope harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Why would maga care if a lot of doctors are Asian? Does maga have respect for doctors of any race?

You didn't get it. Maga care about their white kids not getting into colleges and about them not being able to find white doctors. They blame it on DEI but even without the DEI, their kids will not get higher chances because in a merit based process Asian will fill all the spots.

Asians consistently fail holistic admissions. It’s not racism but rather being one dimensional.

It's not being one dimensional but rather racism.

Cope harder.

Like the Jews back in the days?

[Anonymous]

Every premed student applying for med school already knew this lol. But it’s just something they kind of accept. For those who find it unfair, applications are already enough work, they aren’t going to collectively mobilize, it’s just the way of the world — is it even worth it? The other group believes race based admissions is a hopefully temporary ethical obligation. Either way, this isn’t news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.

Why would maga care if a lot of doctors are Asian? Does maga have respect for doctors of any race?

You didn't get it. Maga care about their white kids not getting into colleges and about them not being able to find white doctors. They blame it on DEI but even without the DEI, their kids will not get higher chances because in a merit based process Asian will fill all the spots.

Asians consistently fail holistic admissions. It’s not racism but rather being one dimensional.

It's not being one dimensional but rather racism.

Cope harder.

Like the Jews back in the days?

The fact that you’re comparing Asians struggling to have a personality on paper to the verifiable Jewish quotas is insane.

Interestingly, DC’s Asian friends who consistently earned top grades in English at our rigorous private got into top schools. DC’s Asian friends that struggled in English didn’t. So clearly there is a correlation between masterful writing ability and college outcomes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like with the SAT, LSAT and GRE, if you are going to admit only high scoring MCAT applicants, then you will have practically no black doctors.

A balance has to be struck but it looks like whatever Yale was doing was pretty close to selecting by race when you get to a 30x advantage.

This is true in the short term. But the reality is that people tend to meet the bar you set for them.

This is another harm of disparate standards, it perpetuates gaps in preparation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases

Not a bummer at all. Don’t you want all doctors to meet the same qualifications regardless of race?

Who said they didn’t meet the qualifications. Your racist arse just made an assumption that the Black applicants weren’t qualified despite the original post stating that they were all SIMILARLY qualified.

Read it again and think about what it means. Think HARD.