NVSL League Meets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nvsl could rent somewhere like the st James or Mason and the 18 swimmers could compete in 2 heats instead of 3 due to more lanes available, which would help cut down on the time.

You could even make combine asr and ias into one meet on one day. It would be a long day, but no potential weather delays and two heats instead of three for each event would help a lot with cutting down time.

Not sure if you are aware, but the St. James is an indoor pool. Not going to happen.

Why not? You would rather not have IAS/ASR at all than have it at an indoor pool? As long as the moveable bulkheads can be positioned to accommodate 25 meters then I can’t see a valid reason why they wouldn’t consider this. Obviously you can’t have a yards pool because these are the meets where records are broken and you can’t break meter records with yards pools. But apart from that…..

[Anonymous]

If no pool is willing to host it, then that means there isn't much interest in the event, and it should not be held.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If no pool is willing to host it, then that means there isn't much interest in the event, and it should not be held.

I don't think it's that simple. People who are willing to host may be in no position to offer to host because they have a pool board isn't interested in hosting. Now perhaps there are pools where boards/nvsl team interests coincide, but whether they have the ability to host (parking/neighborhood layout, tents setup, etc etc.) is a different story. There's a lot of boxes that have to be checked that doesn't make this a walk in the park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If no pool is willing to host it, then that means there isn't much interest in the event, and it should not be held.

I don't think it's that simple. People who are willing to host may be in no position to offer to host because they have a pool board isn't interested in hosting. Now perhaps there are pools where boards/nvsl team interests coincide, but whether they have the ability to host (parking/neighborhood layout, tents setup, etc etc.) is a different story. There's a lot of boxes that have to be checked that doesn't make this a walk in the park.

I think that it is a freeloading problem too. We send anywhere from 4 to 12 kids a year. Two families will volunteer and the rest feel they owe no obligation and want to use the team rep bracelet so they get the good social media posts of their kid swimming. They do the bare minimum or feel their obligation is done since it is post season.

This is what is going on at th micro level and plays out at the macro level. These same families will be the most upset if the meet doesn't happen. They don't care about the tremendous amount of work on the host pool and the volunteers.

[Anonymous]

You could have the meet and its parking at UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You could have the meet and its parking at UMD.

Dear god no.

Signed,

Someone who is spending the entire weekend at a swim meet at UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could have the meet and its parking at UMD.

Dear god no.

Signed,

Someone who is spending the entire weekend at a swim meet at UMD.

Parking during the summer should be hassle free!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could have the meet and its parking at UMD.

Dear god no.

Signed,

Someone who is spending the entire weekend at a swim meet at UMD.

Parking during the summer should be hassle free!

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It is actually. Long course Champs is a dream compared to the SCY meets.

But I think having a Northern Virginia meet in MD seems odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could have the meet and its parking at UMD.

Dear god no.

Signed,

Someone who is spending the entire weekend at a swim meet at UMD.

Parking during the summer should be hassle free!

Parking might be hassle free, but 495 will still suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could have the meet and its parking at UMD.

Dear god no.

Signed,

Someone who is spending the entire weekend at a swim meet at UMD.

Ok, hear me out….I have a better solution. Convince the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors to build a 50x25 meter outdoor pool with raised stadium seating on both sides, ample deck space and a parking garage, concessions, bathrooms and locker rooms along the lines of the Northside Swim Center in San Antonio. Of course for Virginia it will need to have a retractable roof too but it would solve the problem of having to go to UMD for big PVS meets as well as give NVSL an outdoor pool for ASR and IAS and a great resource for the community. Northside was developed to handle 2500 spectators, 1000 athletes and 400 coaches….but then again everything is bigger in TX 😝

Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

https://pbk.com/project/northside-isd-swim-center/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If no pool is willing to host it, then that means there isn't much interest in the event, and it should not be held.

I don't think it's that simple. People who are willing to host may be in no position to offer to host because they have a pool board isn't interested in hosting. Now perhaps there are pools where boards/nvsl team interests coincide, but whether they have the ability to host (parking/neighborhood layout, tents setup, etc etc.) is a different story. There's a lot of boxes that have to be checked that doesn't make this a walk in the park.

I’m on the board for a club. I think there are probably a good number that underestimate their ability to host.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

Sure, it’s much better when you stay in a bubble and never learn anything from anyone else. Good way to live.

[Anonymous]

There's already one team willing host IAS next year. Whether they have the space to do so remains to be seen, but the league knows the option is there. I've heard that they passed on this year because they didn't have enough time to plan by the time they were approached.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

You’re funny. Also, it is important to learn how to discern the main idea of a paragraph or piece of writing. Perhaps you might want to return to the 3rd grade. You must have missed learning this skill in school. I’ll help you, but just this once:

The largest summer league in the U.S. (all of which teams compete outdoors) uses a university pool for their champs meet. Yes, ASA does not have cut times or a specific number of swimmers per event, but that is irrelevant to the point of the statement above. Main idea: It is possible to run ASR and IAS out of a university pool, and ASA has an established model that NVSL could adapt, especially since there are far fewer kids swimming at ASR and IAS than are swimming at the ASA Champs meet.

You’re funny. It’s possible to run these meets indoors. NVSL has already said that running meets indoors is a hard pass. Yet people like you keep trumpeting that idea. So keep trumpeting, and virtue signaling, and being superior— no, really, keep being a bad listener.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's already one team willing host IAS next year. Whether they have the space to do so remains to be seen, but the league knows the option is there. I've heard that they passed on this year because they didn't have enough time to plan by the time they were approached.

There is still plenty of time to plan. This is around the time we started to plan

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