NVSL League Meets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If no pool is willing to host it, then that means there isn't much interest in the event, and it should not be held.

I don't think it's that simple. People who are willing to host may be in no position to offer to host because they have a pool board isn't interested in hosting. Now perhaps there are pools where boards/nvsl team interests coincide, but whether they have the ability to host (parking/neighborhood layout, tents setup, etc etc.) is a different story. There's a lot of boxes that have to be checked that doesn't make this a walk in the park.

I’m on the board for a club. I think there are probably a good number that underestimate their ability to host.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

Sure, it’s much better when you stay in a bubble and never learn anything from anyone else. Good way to live.

[Anonymous]

There's already one team willing host IAS next year. Whether they have the space to do so remains to be seen, but the league knows the option is there. I've heard that they passed on this year because they didn't have enough time to plan by the time they were approached.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

You’re funny. Also, it is important to learn how to discern the main idea of a paragraph or piece of writing. Perhaps you might want to return to the 3rd grade. You must have missed learning this skill in school. I’ll help you, but just this once:

The largest summer league in the U.S. (all of which teams compete outdoors) uses a university pool for their champs meet. Yes, ASA does not have cut times or a specific number of swimmers per event, but that is irrelevant to the point of the statement above. Main idea: It is possible to run ASR and IAS out of a university pool, and ASA has an established model that NVSL could adapt, especially since there are far fewer kids swimming at ASR and IAS than are swimming at the ASA Champs meet.

You’re funny. It’s possible to run these meets indoors. NVSL has already said that running meets indoors is a hard pass. Yet people like you keep trumpeting that idea. So keep trumpeting, and virtue signaling, and being superior— no, really, keep being a bad listener.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's already one team willing host IAS next year. Whether they have the space to do so remains to be seen, but the league knows the option is there. I've heard that they passed on this year because they didn't have enough time to plan by the time they were approached.

There is still plenty of time to plan. This is around the time we started to plan

-Pinecrest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

You’re funny. Also, it is important to learn how to discern the main idea of a paragraph or piece of writing. Perhaps you might want to return to the 3rd grade. You must have missed learning this skill in school. I’ll help you, but just this once:

The largest summer league in the U.S. (all of which teams compete outdoors) uses a university pool for their champs meet. Yes, ASA does not have cut times or a specific number of swimmers per event, but that is irrelevant to the point of the statement above. Main idea: It is possible to run ASR and IAS out of a university pool, and ASA has an established model that NVSL could adapt, especially since there are far fewer kids swimming at ASR and IAS than are swimming at the ASA Champs meet.

You’re funny. It’s possible to run these meets indoors. NVSL has already said that running meets indoors is a hard pass. Yet people like you keep trumpeting that idea. So keep trumpeting, and virtue signaling, and being superior— no, really, keep being a bad listener.

DP, but how long can they say “hard pass” as this meet continues to become more and more of a production every year, reducing the number of places that can, or are willing, to host? You could also say it’s virtue signaling to insist these meets have to take place outdoors at all costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

You’re funny. Also, it is important to learn how to discern the main idea of a paragraph or piece of writing. Perhaps you might want to return to the 3rd grade. You must have missed learning this skill in school. I’ll help you, but just this once:

The largest summer league in the U.S. (all of which teams compete outdoors) uses a university pool for their champs meet. Yes, ASA does not have cut times or a specific number of swimmers per event, but that is irrelevant to the point of the statement above. Main idea: It is possible to run ASR and IAS out of a university pool, and ASA has an established model that NVSL could adapt, especially since there are far fewer kids swimming at ASR and IAS than are swimming at the ASA Champs meet.

You’re funny. It’s possible to run these meets indoors. NVSL has already said that running meets indoors is a hard pass. Yet people like you keep trumpeting that idea. So keep trumpeting, and virtue signaling, and being superior— no, really, keep being a bad listener.

DP, but how long can they say “hard pass” as this meet continues to become more and more of a production every year, reducing the number of places that can, or are willing, to host? You could also say it’s virtue signaling to insist these meets have to take place outdoors at all costs.

Not the PP. What has virtue signaling have any relevance to this thread?

[Anonymous]

If IAS leaves I would not care. It is really tough for the HS kids and fall sports. And when the season was moved up it was even worse.

I like ASR because it is a team event and more in line with NVSL than IAS. Which as was said before is a B meet particularly with IM as part of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Atlanta Swimming Association (ASA) is bigger than NVSL. They hold Champs at Georgia Tech every year and have since the 1996 Olympics. It takes place over 3-4 days in sessions, and it includes individual events and the relay events. The largest/most competitive teams are grouped in the same session, but times from all the sessions count in the final awards. There are a lot more swimmers in this champs meet, but runs like a well-oiled machine. While there obviously isn’t a venue like Tech up here, holding ASR and IAS together at a college pool seems like the best choice. Who cares if it’s yards? And they can reconfigure the LC pool with bulkheads to make it 25 meters. I’m sure they can even move the flags. I’d absolutely pay entry fees like we do for club meets to cover the cost.

ETA: Teams only go to one session, so it’s not like a club champs meet that requires swimmers to go 3-4 days in a row.

Nobody here gives a crap what the Atlanta Swim Association does. NVSL is an outdoor swim league. The Atlanta champs meet has eight-year-olds that swim a 25 yard freestyle in 57 seconds and pay $50 per swimmer. Barf.

You’re funny. Also, it is important to learn how to discern the main idea of a paragraph or piece of writing. Perhaps you might want to return to the 3rd grade. You must have missed learning this skill in school. I’ll help you, but just this once:

The largest summer league in the U.S. (all of which teams compete outdoors) uses a university pool for their champs meet. Yes, ASA does not have cut times or a specific number of swimmers per event, but that is irrelevant to the point of the statement above. Main idea: It is possible to run ASR and IAS out of a university pool, and ASA has an established model that NVSL could adapt, especially since there are far fewer kids swimming at ASR and IAS than are swimming at the ASA Champs meet.

You’re funny. It’s possible to run these meets indoors. NVSL has already said that running meets indoors is a hard pass. Yet people like you keep trumpeting that idea. So keep trumpeting, and virtue signaling, and being superior— no, really, keep being a bad listener.

DP, but how long can they say “hard pass” as this meet continues to become more and more of a production every year, reducing the number of places that can, or are willing, to host? You could also say it’s virtue signaling to insist these meets have to take place outdoors at all costs.

Not the PP. What has virtue signaling have any relevance to this thread?

The PP claimed that suggesting the meet be held indoors was somehow virtue signaling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's already one team willing host IAS next year. Whether they have the space to do so remains to be seen, but the league knows the option is there. I've heard that they passed on this year because they didn't have enough time to plan by the time they were approached.

There is still plenty of time to plan. This is around the time we started to plan

-Pinecrest

Fair enough. As others have said, you guys did an amazing job the last couple years, so obviously that timeframe worked for you. I can't claim to speak for them, but they are a smaller team, so perhaps having the manpower to plan in a relatively short span was a factor in passing on this year

[Anonymous]

Mount Vernon Park Association should step up. That property is huge. They have TWO pools, could run boys/girls simultaneously and they may not be as good as they once were but still fairly highly ranked and no doubt send plenty of aiwmmers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mount Vernon Park Association should step up. That property is huge. They have TWO pools, could run boys/girls simultaneously and they may not be as good as they once were but still fairly highly ranked and no doubt send plenty of aiwmmers

The other pool is a 50m pool (great for them), but not a 50m x 25m. Have you seen them to use some sort of bulkhead to split the 50m pool?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mount Vernon Park Association should step up. That property is huge. They have TWO pools, could run boys/girls simultaneously and they may not be as good as they once were but still fairly highly ranked and no doubt send plenty of aiwmmers

The other pool is a 50m pool (great for them), but not a 50m x 25m. Have you seen them to use some sort of bulkhead to split the 50m pool?

Just even having continuous warm ups in their second pool would make for a faster meet.

I do think that clubs that have multiple pools should be on the shortlist. Waynewood is an excellent pool to host. They literally check every box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mount Vernon Park Association should step up. That property is huge. They have TWO pools, could run boys/girls simultaneously and they may not be as good as they once were but still fairly highly ranked and no doubt send plenty of aiwmmers

The other pool is a 50m pool (great for them), but not a 50m x 25m. Have you seen them to use some sort of bulkhead to split the 50m pool?

Just even having continuous warm ups in their second pool would make for a faster meet.

I do think that clubs that have multiple pools should be on the shortlist. Waynewood is an excellent pool to host. They literally check every box.

Beggars shouldn’t be choosers. I’d be happy with any pool hosting

[Anonymous]

Shouldn't NVSL be pushing out updates to the reps? I would imagine if IAS was not happening that could allow certain families to vacation earlier or allow reps/coaches to make plans, etc.