Double homicide in Silver Spring
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Anonymous
Right?!?! Hilarious. |
Anonymous
The PP listed 3 murders in Bethesda since 2011 (and one in Kensington). The overwhelming majority of homicides in Montgomery County every year occur in only 3 areas: Germantown, Gaithersburg and Silver Spring. In Silver Spring, it is split between two neighborhoods, downtown and White Oak, and the violence and particularly the gun violence in Silver Spring is increasing. In terms of gun crime, it’s now indistinguishable from adjacent communities in PG County. https://www.thetrace.org/2023/02/gun-violence-map-america-shootings/?place=Silver-Spring-Maryland It’s not a war zone but also not safe. |
Anonymous
It’s economic. Wealthy criminals have more sophisticated schemes and a legal system that protects them so you just don’t hear about it as much. |
Anonymous
I can still walk the streets in broad daylight with white collar crime and not have to worry about me or my children's physical safety. |
Anonymous
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There are memorial funds for funeral expenses for both of the young men who were killed.
https://mocoshow.com/2024/05/28/community-rallies-to-support-families-of-20-year-old-men-killed-in-double-homicide2/ |
Anonymous
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I live in the neighborhood near the Wheaton mall shooting on Sunday at 11 a.m. that was very near the Giant. This is a neighborhood, with an Kensington zip code, often touted on DCUM as fairly affordable and good for families.
It’s disconcerting, but it’s certainly not a war zone here. The violence hasn’t spilled over into our single-family home streets, but it’s worrisome it could. |
Anonymous
| If You look at the map though, you'll see that most of the residential neighborhoods near DTSS are still very safe, with no shootings recorded since 2014. |
Anonymous
West of DTSS is Woodside, which then very quickly gives way to Chevy Chase. The local activists believe these safe neighborhoods are filled with NIMBY racists. East is the Takoma Park Historic District. This is a famously NIMBY neighborhood but the aforementioned activists live here so they don’t normally talk about it. These neighborhoods are mostly white and feature million dollar homes. You can see how the violence follows Thayer to the park where these murders happened (there is a huge low income apartment complex there) and after Sligo it picks up at Flower and Piney Branch. In other words, it’s very easy to discern why some neighborhoods are safe and why some are not. In White Oak you can even see a cluster gun homicides around a very specific apartment complex. |
Anonymous
I’m happy to be called a “NIMBY racist” if it keeps the violence out of my neighborhood. |
Anonymous
Becoming habituated to violence and trauma is exactly what the people making excuses about why some schools have such horrible issues, say. The trauma is what makes kids talk back, get into fights, become a wildwest, have horrible test scores—etc. (The way it’s used as an excuse without ever giving any realistic and good-for-society solutions bothers me— but I don’t doubt it is actually a big factor). So yeah, even if it’s unconsciously—living in a place with a lot of murders and crimes definitely has a mental/psychological cost. |
Anonymous
This is 100% true -- we only need to look at the upzoning proposal for a recent example. SS does not need more people; it is already incredibly dense, without proper infrastructure and services to handle the density, yet upzoning is being shoved down our throats. With that said, part of the problem is that SS residents don't try very hard to protect their own neighborhoods. Bethesda residents would never allow hookah bars that open until 3 PM, yet there's no movement to get rid of them in SS even though they contribute to lots of late-night crime. Similarly, if you look on SS Nextdoor, you'll find lots of people who don't call police in response to crime; if you're ever able to pull up Bethesda Nextdoor, you'll see that it's very different and people welcome the police. SS residents can't expect much from the county when they don't act like they deserve anything different than what they have. |
Anonymous
Zoom in on the location of the crimes and it's very clear they they are occurring disproportionately in the (low-income) apartment complexes. Pull up a map of the LITC developments and compare to the gun violence map. The correlation is fairly tight. https://www.novoco.com/resource-centers/affordable-housing-tax-credits/lihtc-mapping-tool |
Anonymous
What number of homicides per year would qualify as a war zone? To put it in perspective, Baltimore has had 71 this year. |
Anonymous
Because Silver Spring elects people like Jawando, who was against any restrictinos on hookah bars:
Keep in mind all the bill (which did pass) was doing is requiring hookah lounges to close at the same time as bars. https://moco360.media/2024/04/02/council-votes-to-restrict-late-night-hours-for-hookah-lounges/ |
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It's not necessarily true that Bethesda does not crack down on bars open late at night that contribute to violence.
what about that fairly recent shooting on Cordell (I think near Catrina and the parking garage?). That place is open until 3 am which is crazy to me. I am unsure of who is out that late even on a weekend. (Yes, I was in my 20s once and I hated being out past 1 am.) Nothing good happens late at night. |