Handmaid's Tale Season 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who finds this series a bit blasphemous?
Biblical handmaidens were not surrogates, they remained with the family and had been part of it all their lives

Until they and their son are cast out into the desert.

Sorry, Bible does not condone murder
Abraham negotiated to save refugees
A goat was cast into the desert to condone for sins. Not the servants

[Anonymous]

I think the commander takes undesirable women( handmaid and martha) willtry to get them out. His wife seems distraught with whatever he has done. In the previews Emily hides a knife. No way they're getting out easily. Aunt Lydia probably stops by to check on them and Emily stabs her. Not sure why Waterford has serena arrested. Why not just beat her? Maybe she will temporarily be sent to the colonies( can they do that?). I'm wondering what she couldhave done that was so bad. I think June will get the baby out some how. She cant leave Gilead because of Hannah. No way she leaves her behind.

[Anonymous]

Any connection to Serena naming the baby Nichole when her biological dads name is Nick?

[Anonymous]

Nicole

[Anonymous]

Maybe waterford’s enemies have Serena arrested so they can get her to flip on him and provide testimony (knowing she hates him), or (not knowing they hate each other) to use her as leverage against him? Not uncommon in Stalinist Russia to arrest the wife as leverage against the husband in the purges.

I doubt whitford is actually part of the resistance. I bet he’s more like a pragmatist who rode the Giles’s train when it seemed like the winning ticket but isn’t really a believer. He collects Gileqd offcasts so he can convince himself he’s not a totally terrible person. Weren’t there Germans who played nice with the Nazis and maybe helped out one or two people, so long as they could do it without too much risk to themselves? I think that’s him — he considers himself better than the Gilead religious freaks but is just COMPLICIT.
I think complicity with evil is one of the major themes of this show—we’ve seen how people like Serena and Lydia compromise some of their ideals for Gilead because of their belief system. About time we have an atheist intellectual who is complicit for the sake of his own hide (and some nice modern art).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe waterford’s enemies have Serena arrested so they can get her to flip on him and provide testimony (knowing she hates him), or (not knowing they hate each other) to use her as leverage against him? Not uncommon in Stalinist Russia to arrest the wife as leverage against the husband in the purges.

I doubt whitford is actually part of the resistance. I bet he’s more like a pragmatist who rode the Giles’s train when it seemed like the winning ticket but isn’t really a believer. He collects Gileqd offcasts so he can convince himself he’s not a totally terrible person. Weren’t there Germans who played nice with the Nazis and maybe helped out one or two people, so long as they could do it without too much risk to themselves? I think that’s him — he considers himself better than the Gilead religious freaks but is just COMPLICIT.
I think complicity with evil is one of the major themes of this show—we’ve seen how people like Serena and Lydia compromise some of their ideals for Gilead because of their belief system. About time we have an atheist intellectual who is complicit for the sake of his own hide (and some nice modern art).

That's a good point about whitford. His wife is against this how are they going to have the rape ceremony?

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^^ I think the point with the character Whitford is playing, if you were looking at his home etc - he has books, modern paintings, and several damaged women (wife is mad, martha is maimed and so is new handmaiden) in his house. Nothing there says to me he is part of the resistance. He also talks freely about the past, which is forbidden. He is just a law unto himself and therefore potentially very dangerous to Emily or possibly helpful. I guess we will find out in the final episode.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nicole

Subtitles spelled it Nichole

[Anonymous]

I was hopeful with the new “whitford” character that he would be a good guy. It seemed like he collected the outcast stray cats and let them roam and curse freely in his house of refuge, and drink microbrews and read graphic novels and admire all the art. But the scenes from the next episode don’t appear that way. Poor Emily has been through enough!

Also, I can’t belive I didn’t catch the Nick/Nichole thing!

[Anonymous]

I predict lots of baby girls named Eden 9 months from now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That last scene with June and Serena. And what do you think the Bradley Whitford character is up to? The sneak peek for the next episode seems to show Serena being arrested. Wow.

That's who he was! His voice sounded so familiar but he looked so different!

+1 Josh Lyman’s in the House!!!
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who finds this series a bit blasphemous?
Biblical handmaidens were not surrogates, they remained with the family and had been part of it all their lives

Until they and their son are cast out into the desert.

Sorry, Bible does not condone murder
Abraham negotiated to save refugees
A goat was cast into the desert to condone for sins. Not the servants

Region Forum —————————>

If you do this here, people are going to push back on your “religion”.

[Anonymous]

I recently re-read the novel and I must say I am very impressed by the degree to which the tv show producers are faithful to Atwood's conception of Gilead while fleshing out the characters in a far more satisfying way. The character of Serena Joy is infinitely more interesting and dimensional in the tv show, really all the characters are. So many interesting details developed in the show that were not in the book, for example the handmaid's real name is never revealed.

One detail responding to a query earlier on this thread--handmaids who successfully gave birth to a live baby (not a 'shredder') were spared being sent to the Colonies. This was stated during the account of Janine's childbirth experience, but it was not stated what position they would hold instead. Hard to imagine them fitting into any of Gilead's categories of women but that's in the novel fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I predict lots of baby girls named Eden 9 months from now.

I need a good girl name that starts with an "E" and everly, evelyn, elizabeth, emma and emily are all played out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I predict lots of baby girls named Eden 9 months from now.

I’ve always loved that name, but I had boys. I hope we do see an uptick, it’s far better than June or Serena.