Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

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I've also "taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel."

That will work just fine as long as your children are white.

Most of the kids did sit down and shut up and they were not thrown to the ground.

Yes, but she was not asked to sit down. She was asked to leave. Which she was doing when the cop got all butt hurt and chased her down. He had to make an effort to go after her. Why are you ignoring this or excusing it?

Good precision. I can only imagine how the maniac teen would have reacted if asked to sit down and wait. The officer gave her a chance to just leave, and she chose to blow it off with smart ass comments first and resisting instructions, second.

Are you a stranger to "smart ass comments"? How would you enjoy being grabbed and detained after making one? Just because he's a cop doesn't mean it's justifiable. He is supposed to control himself and his community. He failed at his job, and made the call worse, whereas the teens aren't as accountable because they are minors.

It was an extremely chaotic situation that could have turned volatile. You can follow the command or you can decide not to and mouth off and be arrested. She should have been taught manners, how to follow direction and how to be respectful. Nothing to do with race, everything to do with teenage behavior.

Maybe she was taught manners, same as that Duggar boy was taught to not touch his sisters after the first time(s). Screwing up, making mistakes and being overly emotional is teenage behavior. Deputy Barrel Roll though, he is no teenager so what's his excuse?

He was arresting a teen that did not comply with his orders. What he did was not illegal.

Never said what he did is illegal, only that his actions were foolish, escalatory and wrong. True that only illegal acts in the scenarios above were perpetrated by the 14-y/o Duggar kid.

And the kids jumping the fence. And the kid that was arrested.

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Didn't this guy get suspended then he resigned. Obviously he did something wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/us/police-officer-in-mckinney-tex-resigns-over-incident-caught-on-video.html?referrer=&_r=0
His own police chief called the cops actions out of control and indefensible. But keep trying to justify his actions if it helps you reinforce your biases.

Keep swallowing all the propaganda crap the media doles out without getting all the facts, and seeing the whole picture-that should reinforce your biases.

Agreed. There is tremendous public pressure to vilify all officers these days. I can't wait to sit back and watch what happens as a result.

Hopefully what happens is that BAD cops are rooted out and fired.

My bet is the crime rate will go up in McKinely.

My bet is there will be alot of "white flight" fromMcKinney-the Craig Ranch neighborhood in particular.

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

I'm sorry this is happening to your family. I assume your daughter is Becky's only black friend.
Do they go to private school? I have a friend who removed her son from private school because she kept encountering these types of situations.

At some point you have to realize that not everybody wants to fight for your cause. Some people are eager to engage and stand up for the right thing; some are not. I seriously doubt that Becky or her mom harbor any resentment towards you or your family. They just don't want trouble. I get where they're coming from. Most of us just want to live in peace, so we avoid potential trouble. The way things have been playing out, I don't blame them. I agree it's completely unfair, but hey, this is what racial relations have come to in our country. I guess it's a new normal.

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with this. Being disinvited to a party because of your race is not someone's "cause" -- it is an issue of common decency. It is appalling and shouldn't be accepted or tolerated by anyone. What type of trouble do you really believe could possibly be caused by a single black girl being invited to a swimming pool? The fact that you seem to accept the possibility of trouble says a lot about your own racial perceptions. In fact, in metropolitan DC -- if not the entire US -- this is not what racial relations have come to. "Becky" and her mom are quite extraordinary in their willingness to be openly racist.

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

I'm sorry this is happening to your family. I assume your daughter is Becky's only black friend.
Do they go to private school? I have a friend who removed her son from private school because she kept encountering these types of situations.

At some point you have to realize that not everybody wants to fight for your cause. Some people are eager to engage and stand up for the right thing; some are not. I seriously doubt that Becky or her mom harbor any resentment towards you or your family. They just don't want trouble. I get where they're coming from. Most of us just want to live in peace, so we avoid potential trouble. The way things have been playing out, I don't blame them. I agree it's completely unfair, but hey, this is what racial relations have come to in our country. I guess it's a new normal.

Wow, that's bad. One thing - at least the mom was honest and didn't try and come up with some nonsense at the end of why she was uninvited.

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I'd like to reemphasize that 12 officers were on the scene.

12

Of those 12, only one was out of control.

None of the other 11 officers felt the need to go into combat mode.

Look at the original video, there is one cop calmly talking to a group of teens telling them not to run. He is calm, then watch as Cpl Casebolt runs through the frame and the rest of the video. He is clearly amped up on adreniline and has over escalated the situation.

Bottom line he's not fit to be a cop and is an emabrassment

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

I'm sorry this is happening to your family. I assume your daughter is Becky's only black friend.
Do they go to private school? I have a friend who removed her son from private school because she kept encountering these types of situations.

At some point you have to realize that not everybody wants to fight for your cause. Some people are eager to engage and stand up for the right thing; some are not. I seriously doubt that Becky or her mom harbor any resentment towards you or your family. They just don't want trouble. I get where they're coming from. Most of us just want to live in peace, so we avoid potential trouble. The way things have been playing out, I don't blame them. I agree it's completely unfair, but hey, this is what racial relations have come to in our country. I guess it's a new normal.

So if your child had a friend who was a minority, you would not invite that child to a party because there is "potential" trouble inviting that kid to a private pool? See...here is the issue. I do not see what trouble could arise other than some busybody making a comment. Which, if this is my child's friend, I will stand up and respond to. I do not care what color they are. What kind of example are you setting for your child? Keep quiet if one of your friends is treated unjustly? You may be able to live in peace, but your child is the one who is going to have to face her friend everyday in school. And these are just children! No way I would put my own child or her friend through that. Belonging to "the club" is just not that important to me (and I DO belong to a private pool that, thankfully, has a number of AA families).

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Anonymous wrote:The Police respond to reports of a fight, trespassing and vandalism and when they get there try to get things under control the teens start mouthing off. He goes to arrest one and suddenly other quickly approach, He doesn't know their intentions or if they have weapons. He pulls a gun out to defend himself and possibly scare them away.
Meanwhile the one he was trying to arrest is still mouthing off and not cooperating.................

The organizer of the pool party didnt have permission from the pool to have the party, more kids showed up than expected.
There is a lot more to this story than the brief video.

Mom of a black daughter here, My kid will be taught to respect others including the Police. So many kids now have no respect for anyone else.

MOST of us teach our kids to respect the police. But teens are immature, egotistical creatures who will not always do what you taught them. I have raised 4 of them, I know. They WILL get around their friends and say and do things contrary to what you have taught. They WILL make mistakes. This girl was obeying the police officer - she was leaving. She made a smart comment - teens do that. He jacked her up.

One thing that people are glossing over is that you all want teens to be "respectful" to someone who was not respectful to them. Sure, she should have just left, but the officer was yelling and cursing at them. So she is being castigated for being disrespectful when he was disrespectful first. Respect goes both ways.

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Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/us/police-officer-in-mckinney-tex-resigns-over-incident-caught-on-video.html?referrer=&_r=0
His own police chief called the cops actions out of control and indefensible. But keep trying to justify his actions if it helps you reinforce your biases.

Keep swallowing all the propaganda crap the media doles out without getting all the facts, and seeing the whole picture-that should reinforce your biases.

Agreed. There is tremendous public pressure to vilify all officers these days. I can't wait to sit back and watch what happens as a result.

Hopefully what happens is that BAD cops are rooted out and fired.

The problem is, the public and media is making those decisions. Want that done to black folk as well?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't this guy get suspended then he resigned. Obviously he did something wrong.

Not necessarily

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Anonymous wrote:The Police respond to reports of a fight, trespassing and vandalism and when they get there try to get things under control the teens start mouthing off. He goes to arrest one and suddenly other quickly approach, He doesn't know their intentions or if they have weapons. He pulls a gun out to defend himself and possibly scare them away.
Meanwhile the one he was trying to arrest is still mouthing off and not cooperating.................

The organizer of the pool party didnt have permission from the pool to have the party, more kids showed up than expected.
There is a lot more to this story than the brief video.

Mom of a black daughter here, My kid will be taught to respect others including the Police. So many kids now have no respect for anyone else.

MOST of us teach our kids to respect the police. But teens are immature, egotistical creatures who will not always do what you taught them. I have raised 4 of them, I know. They WILL get around their friends and say and do things contrary to what you have taught. They WILL make mistakes. This girl was obeying the police officer - she was leaving. She made a smart comment - teens do that. He jacked her up.

One thing that people are glossing over is that you all want teens to be "respectful" to someone who was not respectful to them. Sure, she should have just left, but the officer was yelling and cursing at them. So she is being castigated for being disrespectful when he was disrespectful first. Respect goes both ways.

And they will learn the consequences of such behavior

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Anonymous wrote:The Police respond to reports of a fight, trespassing and vandalism and when they get there try to get things under control the teens start mouthing off. He goes to arrest one and suddenly other quickly approach, He doesn't know their intentions or if they have weapons. He pulls a gun out to defend himself and possibly scare them away.
Meanwhile the one he was trying to arrest is still mouthing off and not cooperating.................

The organizer of the pool party didnt have permission from the pool to have the party, more kids showed up than expected.
There is a lot more to this story than the brief video.

Mom of a black daughter here, My kid will be taught to respect others including the Police. So many kids now have no respect for anyone else.

MOST of us teach our kids to respect the police. But teens are immature, egotistical creatures who will not always do what you taught them. I have raised 4 of them, I know. They WILL get around their friends and say and do things contrary to what you have taught. They WILL make mistakes. This girl was obeying the police officer - she was leaving. She made a smart comment - teens do that. He jacked her up.

One thing that people are glossing over is that you all want teens to be "respectful" to someone who was not respectful to them. Sure, she should have just left, but the officer was yelling and cursing at them. So she is being castigated for being disrespectful when he was disrespectful first. Respect goes both ways.

And they will learn the consequences of such behavior

I guess. Except that the officer was wrong and what he did was unjustified given waht she did. Or else they will learn that policeman will overstep their power if they do not like what you say - does not exactly teach respect for the police.

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Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/us/police-officer-in-mckinney-tex-resigns-over-incident-caught-on-video.html?referrer=&_r=0
His own police chief called the cops actions out of control and indefensible. But keep trying to justify his actions if it helps you reinforce your biases.

Keep swallowing all the propaganda crap the media doles out without getting all the facts, and seeing the whole picture-that should reinforce your biases.

Agreed. There is tremendous public pressure to vilify all officers these days. I can't wait to sit back and watch what happens as a result.

Hopefully what happens is that BAD cops are rooted out and fired.

The problem is, the public and media is making those decisions. Want that done to black folk as well?

Race issues aside, this was horrible policing. People get caught up on the racial component and that is legit in this case. But at the brass tacks level, the guy was out of control and someone could have been hurt becuase of HIS actions. Dollars to donuts, that is why he got suspended. A dozen officers on the scene and he was the ONLY one acting like this. That would tell me something about HIS behavior. But people are so determined to defend the guy.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't this guy get suspended then he resigned. Obviously he did something wrong.

Not necessarily

Necessarily.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/collin-county/2015/06/09/mckinney-officer-resigns-from-the-force/28760035/

"The actions of Eric Casebolt are indefensible," police Chief Greg Conley told reporters at a news conference late Tuesday afternoon, saying the officer was "out of control during the incident."

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

I'm sorry this is happening to your family. I assume your daughter is Becky's only black friend.
Do they go to private school? I have a friend who removed her son from private school because she kept encountering these types of situations.

At some point you have to realize that not everybody wants to fight for your cause. Some people are eager to engage and stand up for the right thing; some are not. I seriously doubt that Becky or her mom harbor any resentment towards you or your family. They just don't want trouble. I get where they're coming from. Most of us just want to live in peace, so we avoid potential trouble. The way things have been playing out, I don't blame them. I agree it's completely unfair, but hey, this is what racial relations have come to in our country. I guess it's a new normal.

So if your child had a friend who was a minority, you would not invite that child to a party because there is "potential" trouble inviting that kid to a private pool? See...here is the issue. I do not see what trouble could arise other than some busybody making a comment. Which, if this is my child's friend, I will stand up and respond to. I do not care what color they are. What kind of example are you setting for your child? Keep quiet if one of your friends is treated unjustly? You may be able to live in peace, but your child is the one who is going to have to face her friend everyday in school. And these are just children! No way I would put my own child or her friend through that. Belonging to "the club" is just not that important to me (and I DO belong to a private pool that, thankfully, has a number of AA families).

Would you send you white child to an all black pool if the mom expressed concern that kids/parents might treat her differently? Would you expect the mom to stand up for your white child?