Duggar son allegedly molested girls including sisters

[Anonymous]

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Yes, I'm defending them because I don't think they are bad people. However, I'm not demanding that you, or anyone else tolerate and accept them or their values, which many may find extreme and/or disagree with. But can you say the same for yourself or many liberal democrats when it comes to what they value? Let's be honest about this one, because that seems to be where the real issue is with the duggars according to many of the people posting to this thread. I also find that to be incredibly rich.

How about Gothard? Do you think he's not a bad person?

Never even heard of him until today. I did not bother to read up on him. It doesn't seem all that important to me. It won't change how I feel about what is happening in this thread. Hate is hate and empathy and understanding is empathy and understanding. Few things are pretty much black and white, but in this case it's pretty close.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so incredibly extreme that it is scary. You are all over this story and this family with intense hatred and anger, but you claim to not watch the show, not like the family, disagree with their views, disagree with their actions, and yet you have such strong opinions and feelings towards them. What is up with that, I mean really. It's not healthy. Why do you care so much about this? There must be some pretty intense negativity in your lives to be posting some of the crazy stuff I'm reading here.

The reason I'm reading and responding is because I liked the duggars. I watched the show when I had cable, ever since the first special aired years ago. I feel awful for the family and what they must be going through right now. Every single one of them. Even josh. I just can't imagine hearing that something horrific happened to a family and going online and bashing them on an online forum, and especially not to the extent that many of you are doing. It doesn't matter how I felt about the family, if I disagreed with everything about them. It would make me uncomfortable and I'd have to consider what issues in my life would drive me to do such a thing. You talk about the family being hateful (which I just do not get, at all), but what about what you are doing? Is that not hypocritical ( which is another word some of you have been using to describe the duggars)? I can imagine that if this scanadal came to light about a family that you all were fond of, and people were rushing to judgment on here, you'd be posting things like "we don't have all the details, this might not be true, that might not be true, show the family some empathy, they are human and make mistakes, etc". And yet none of the people who support the duggars are denying that something terrible happened, just that it is a bad idea to get so excited about bashing them during this time. I can't imagine being so smug about a family's traumatic secrets being revealed on the news and celebrity gossip tabloids. It's really sad

That's pretty rich, considering you are defending a family that earns its money by broadcasting their lives on TV (and magazines, and talk shows, and websites, appearances, etc.), and was made famous by putting their children and lifestyle out for public viewing and comment. Everything they do is designed to promote their particular brand of conservative Christianity and to make money. So yes, when they espouse personal and sexual repression and intolerance, but they tolerate their oldest son molesting four of their young daughters (age 4????!!! That is predatory, plain and simple), then they are going to get booted from their gravy train of piety. And their dirty laundry is going to be hung out in public. That's the risk you take when you live your life for the camera. This is not a family in crises, this is a cult whose leaders will do anything to preserve the status quo. I feel zero sympathy, except for the daughters. That sh*t need to be shut down NOW.

Yes, I'm defending them because I don't think they are bad people. However, I'm not demanding that you, or anyone else tolerate and accept them or their values, which many may find extreme and/or disagree with. But can you say the same for yourself or many liberal democrats when it comes to what they value? Let's be honest about this one, because that seems to be where the real issue is with the duggars according to many of the people posting to this thread. I also find that to be incredibly rich.

Forgot to mention that Im also not calling anyone bigots or accusing them of being fearful of anything (homophobic?) because they disagree with the duggars or me. I believe in God, but I haven't been to church in years. But I appreciate that others have different religious beliefs than I do. It's good that we have freedom of religion in the USA. It's also good to have freedom of speech and liberty. I don't hate anyone who disagrees with me, but can we say the same about many of anti-duggar crowd that are posting to this thread?

I have no idea what you're talking about. You think people who dislike the Duggars are against free speech?

[Anonymous]

Quote where I said that in my post and then we'll talk. You don't want people manipulating what you say, and neither do I. Prove I said it and then we'll talk.

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Who cares what my or anyone else's political leanings are? That is totally irrelevant. You are speaking like you know the family personally, and that they've had a string of unfortunate luck. Not so. They are public figures by choice, and they carefully and deliberately covered up numerous sexual assaults perpetrated by their son on their young daughters, and other young girl(s). They are hypocrites (" a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite) because they prohibit sexual contact before marriage in their family, yet tolerated criminal sexual misconduct within their family, in their own home.

So your being fond of them, or feeling sorry for them, or agreeing with them has no relevance to the matter at hand. Their son is a child molester, and the parents failed to protect the daughters and continued to promote and protect the Duggar brand. That is sick.

[Anonymous]

To be fair, you may not have any idea what I'm talking about, but please don't accuse me of saying others don't want freedom of speech when I never said that. That part is perfectly clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares what my or anyone else's political leanings are? That is totally irrelevant. You are speaking like you know the family personally, and that they've had a string of unfortunate luck. Not so. They are public figures by choice, and they carefully and deliberately covered up numerous sexual assaults perpetrated by their son on their young daughters, and other young girl(s). They are hypocrites (" a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite) because they prohibit sexual contact before marriage in their family, yet tolerated criminal sexual misconduct within their family, in their own home.

So your being fond of them, or feeling sorry for them, or agreeing with them has no relevance to the matter at hand. Their son is a child molester, and the parents failed to protect the daughters and continued to promote and protect the Duggar brand. That is sick.

+ a million. So well stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares what my or anyone else's political leanings are? That is totally irrelevant. You are speaking like you know the family personally, and that they've had a string of unfortunate luck. Not so. They are public figures by choice, and they carefully and deliberately covered up numerous sexual assaults perpetrated by their son on their young daughters, and other young girl(s). They are hypocrites (" a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite) because they prohibit sexual contact before marriage in their family, yet tolerated criminal sexual misconduct within their family, in their own home.

So your being fond of them, or feeling sorry for them, or agreeing with them has no relevance to the matter at hand. Their son is a child molester, and the parents failed to protect the daughters and continued to promote and protect the Duggar brand. That is sick.

I disagree. My opinion is just as relevant as anyone else's. You just disagree with it, and I probably disagree with you, but I'm not telling you that your opinions are less important than mine or anyone else's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares what my or anyone else's political leanings are? That is totally irrelevant. You are speaking like you know the family personally, and that they've had a string of unfortunate luck. Not so. They are public figures by choice, and they carefully and deliberately covered up numerous sexual assaults perpetrated by their son on their young daughters, and other young girl(s). They are hypocrites (" a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite) because they prohibit sexual contact before marriage in their family, yet tolerated criminal sexual misconduct within their family, in their own home.

So your being fond of them, or feeling sorry for them, or agreeing with them has no relevance to the matter at hand. Their son is a child molester, and the parents failed to protect the daughters and continued to promote and protect the Duggar brand. That is sick.

+ a million. So well stated.

+1 more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares what my or anyone else's political leanings are? That is totally irrelevant. You are speaking like you know the family personally, and that they've had a string of unfortunate luck. Not so. They are public figures by choice, and they carefully and deliberately covered up numerous sexual assaults perpetrated by their son on their young daughters, and other young girl(s). They are hypocrites (" a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite) because they prohibit sexual contact before marriage in their family, yet tolerated criminal sexual misconduct within their family, in their own home.

So your being fond of them, or feeling sorry for them, or agreeing with them has no relevance to the matter at hand. Their son is a child molester, and the parents failed to protect the daughters and continued to promote and protect the Duggar brand. That is sick.

I disagree. My opinion is just as relevant as anyone else's. You just disagree with it, and I probably disagree with you, but I'm not telling you that your opinions are less important than mine or anyone else's.

My only opinion is that the actions of the Duggar family are sick. But let's be clear, everything else stated is fact, not opinion, as evidenced by the Duggar's own words, the police report, the parents' statements to the media and the police, and Josh Duggar's admission. You are free to hold any opinion you wish on these facts.

[Anonymous]

Id like to know why this was made such a big deal of now. It was pretty common knowledge around the time he got married and TLC didn't pull them then.

[Anonymous]

Me, too -- I'm not clear on why this has surfaced now. But unlike PP, I was not familiar with this topic earlier.

[Anonymous]

On May 21, 2015, police reports were made public that accuse Josh Duggar, eldest child of 19 Kids and Counting stars Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, of child molestation. The reports date back to actions that occurred when Josh was 14 years old, and allege that he inappropriately touched five girls who were minors.


http://www.etonline.com/news/165063_josh_duggar_molestation_allegations_a_timeline_of_events/

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[Anonymous]

intouch magazine and etonline

seems legit

[Anonymous]

So read the police report yourself.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/21/duggars-reeling-from-joshs-sex-abuse-scandal/27741883/

[ciaojenny]

I may be way off base here but I have always wondered why John David seemingly had no relationship with his closest in age brother and was very standoffish with the show. Perhaps he was disgusted that his twin sister had been molested and then left unprotected by his parents? John David has always seemed like a decent guy, veering away from the family line.