Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WJ PTA cluster reps now support original Option B per message that went out. VM to stay at Woodward.

Because WJ PTA is in charge?!?

They are a bunch of Karens. Wheaton isn't organized so they'll get steamrolled. Best advocacy effort would be to send some emails strongly supporting the superintendent's recommendation. Taylor was solving the over crowding at Wheaton, and Woodward wants to shove it back on Wheaton. Hilarious. These are the people who like sanctuary state and now they see realties on the ground. They're truly racists.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a very valid proposal and I wish MCPS would have had the stones to propose it themselves. However it is tone deaf for one school community to propose a boundary change impacting a different school community and not consulting them.

They sort of did with all of their 9 or so options over the year. It just didn't get positive feedback during the surveys and Taylor did what he believed was best for MCPS. It's his fiduciary duty after all.

Agree the petitioners should have consulted the various communities impacted but went on their own bc they don't care about anything but property value.

It is not the petitioners’ job to conduct their own study. It is their right to present a concern or feedback on the options. Any other community can provide their own feedback or write their own petitions.

Representing a concern is different than convincing a a majority minority community why they should want to move to a majority white community. Representing a concern about FARMS, EML and MPDU rates is racist, classist and xenophobic

+1 BOE should support Taylor's recommendation. Agree farmland is full of racists

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

I’m a VM parents and I agree with this. Granted I’m new (kid will be in K next year). I strongly support going to WJ if we can. Stronger school, barely different distance, less utilization, more reasonable farms rates. Very confused by the backlash here. I don’t feel used at all or a token poor person. I simply want what’s best for my kids

Then you’re not a VM parent now and likely a Farmland parent. Or if you are you want to be able to afford a better home addition.
I’m a VM parent and we want Woodward for the many reasons above.

So sick of the assumptions!! God forbid someone disagrees with you. I LIVE in holiday park. I am a VM parent. I don’t have millions of dollars for a home addition what is this nonsense?! These two neighboring schools should be very similar to each other given they are RIGHT next to each other and this proposal along with the class offerings/programs ensures they won’t be

Yes you want the increase in home equity that comes with WJ. Then you can do your addition.

Right next to each other…Similar distance as BCC and Whitman. Yet differences exist

The Farmland group isn’t arguing programs. Seems like they’re OK with arts which is where they should focus effort. Everyone other region spreads around the arts. And some even put STEM and IB in desirable locations. Not our region.

That’s not what the petition creator said to me. She was flippant about which programs would be housed at Woodward. I tried to get her to understand that programs were still malleable if you look at the MCPS timeline with regards to interest surveys. The boundaries have to be done now as the new buildings will be ready for fall 2027.

I predict the only programs families are interested in are STEM, humanities, Perfirming arts, and middle college. The sad part is that our VA counterparts pay less taxes and get decent offerings in all of these content areas at every Hs.

They're flailing about brown and poor people going to Woodward, rather than focusing on ensure high quality programs are at Woodward. It's sickening. They deserve fashion design program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Agree.

Luxmanor realtor is for it. She can say we need to send WW back to Wheaton because they increase FARMS too much at Woodward for her liking. But it fixes her utilization issue by making it underutilized even more than 9% to 27%. Clearly they have room for WW but don’t want them.

She outlines a number of points related to utilization. Which do you think are false/misstated?

Look at the number of foreclosed developments. Look at the declining birth rates. Increase in dwelling unites does not equal increases in schooo age children, and def not public school. MoCo has high outmigration of the wealthiest folks and all schools will have high FaRMS by 20232. And ES boundaries are moot as they are about to change. I also predict several MS will close. Look how many are predicted to be at 50 and 60 something percent capacity

I doubt the affected families want to bank on that. They’d rather see a more comparable utilization with WJ and balance the risk of overcrowding. I don’t see how your opinion is any more valid than theirs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's a very valid proposal and I wish MCPS would have had the stones to propose it themselves. However it is tone deaf for one school community to propose a boundary change impacting a different school community and not consulting them.

They sort of did with all of their 9 or so options over the year. It just didn't get positive feedback during the surveys and Taylor did what he believed was best for MCPS. It's his fiduciary duty after all.

Agree the petitioners should have consulted the various communities impacted but went on their own bc they don't care about anything but property value.

It is not the petitioners’ job to conduct their own study. It is their right to present a concern or feedback on the options. Any other community can provide their own feedback or write their own petitions.

Representing a concern is different than convincing a a majority minority community why they should want to move to a majority white community. Representing a concern about FARMS, EML and MPDU rates is racist, classist and xenophobic

+1 BOE should support Taylor's recommendation. Agree farmland is full of racists

+1

Let's keep WJ free from poor and nonwhites.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Agree.

Luxmanor realtor is for it. She can say we need to send WW back to Wheaton because they increase FARMS too much at Woodward for her liking. But it fixes her utilization issue by making it underutilized even more than 9% to 27%. Clearly they have room for WW but don’t want them.

And WJ realtor is against it as it will bump WJ FARMS by 1.6%.

WJ FARMS shold not increase even by 1-2 % at any cost.

+1

Please keep suggested option. It's best for housing price in WJ. Also, it will keep poor kids away.

Hahaha! Joke’s on all of you. Taylor’s data shows the FARMs rate of the new WH to be super high in 5-10-15 years.

Prediction of MCPS, LOL.

All matters is WJ FARMS rate is 15%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

I’m a VM parents and I agree with this. Granted I’m new (kid will be in K next year). I strongly support going to WJ if we can. Stronger school, barely different distance, less utilization, more reasonable farms rates. Very confused by the backlash here. I don’t feel used at all or a token poor person. I simply want what’s best for my kids

Then you’re not a VM parent now and likely a Farmland parent. Or if you are you want to be able to afford a better home addition.
I’m a VM parent and we want Woodward for the many reasons above.

So sick of the assumptions!! God forbid someone disagrees with you. I LIVE in holiday park. I am a VM parent. I don’t have millions of dollars for a home addition what is this nonsense?! These two neighboring schools should be very similar to each other given they are RIGHT next to each other and this proposal along with the class offerings/programs ensures they won’t be

Yes you want the increase in home equity that comes with WJ. Then you can do your addition.

Right next to each other…Similar distance as BCC and Whitman. Yet differences exist

The Farmland group isn’t arguing programs. Seems like they’re OK with arts which is where they should focus effort. Everyone other region spreads around the arts. And some even put STEM and IB in desirable locations. Not our region.

That’s not what the petition creator said to me. She was flippant about which programs would be housed at Woodward. I tried to get her to understand that programs were still malleable if you look at the MCPS timeline with regards to interest surveys. The boundaries have to be done now as the new buildings will be ready for fall 2027.

I predict the only programs families are interested in are STEM, humanities, Perfirming arts, and middle college. The sad part is that our VA counterparts pay less taxes and get decent offerings in all of these content areas at every Hs.

Right, so that is why they are not the focus right now. Makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WJ PTA cluster reps now support original Option B per message that went out. VM to stay at Woodward.

Because WJ PTA is in charge?!?

They are a bunch of Karens. Wheaton isn't organized so they'll get steamrolled. Best advocacy effort would be to send some emails strongly supporting the superintendent's recommendation. Taylor was solving the over crowding at Wheaton, and Woodward wants to shove it back on Wheaton. Hilarious. These are the people who like sanctuary state and now they see realties on the ground. They're truly racists.

The Wheaton cluster PTA rep thinks that she is in charge. She’s a bully that’s unhappy the DCC is going away. She doesn’t even live in the new region with WJ and Woodward is trying to VM and WW families for her own agenda. Just got back and read her previous testimony to the BOE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Agree.

Luxmanor realtor is for it. She can say we need to send WW back to Wheaton because they increase FARMS too much at Woodward for her liking. But it fixes her utilization issue by making it underutilized even more than 9% to 27%. Clearly they have room for WW but don’t want them.

She outlines a number of points related to utilization. Which do you think are false/misstated?

Look at the number of foreclosed developments. Look at the declining birth rates. Increase in dwelling unites does not equal increases in schooo age children, and def not public school. MoCo has high outmigration of the wealthiest folks and all schools will have high FaRMS by 20232. And ES boundaries are moot as they are about to change. I also predict several MS will close. Look how many are predicted to be at 50 and 60 something percent capacity

I doubt the affected families want to bank on that. They’d rather see a more comparable utilization with WJ and balance the risk of overcrowding. I don’t see how your opinion is any more valid than theirs.

Who are you considering an affected family? I’m a VM parent and I support Taylor’s recommendation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

Wheaton will continue to have their STEM magnet which is certainly not in the ghetto as you describe. It’s a popular program and part of why Wheaton is currently so overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

This is getting out of hand. Farmland folks, let’s remember these key points for when we speak to the BOE:

1) We are entitled to a FARMs rate that we are comfortable with.
2) Just because we didn’t advocate for “balance” in the past doesn’t mean we can’t advocate for it now.
3) Our property values are sacrosanct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Agree.

Luxmanor realtor is for it. She can say we need to send WW back to Wheaton because they increase FARMS too much at Woodward for her liking. But it fixes her utilization issue by making it underutilized even more than 9% to 27%. Clearly they have room for WW but don’t want them.

She outlines a number of points related to utilization. Which do you think are false/misstated?

Look at the number of foreclosed developments. Look at the declining birth rates. Increase in dwelling unites does not equal increases in schooo age children, and def not public school. MoCo has high outmigration of the wealthiest folks and all schools will have high FaRMS by 20232. And ES boundaries are moot as they are about to change. I also predict several MS will close. Look how many are predicted to be at 50 and 60 something percent capacity

I doubt the affected families want to bank on that. They’d rather see a more comparable utilization with WJ and balance the risk of overcrowding. I don’t see how your opinion is any more valid than theirs.

Who are you considering an affected family? I’m a VM parent and I support Taylor’s recommendation.

Referring to families worried about Woodward utilization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

I’m a VM parents and I agree with this. Granted I’m new (kid will be in K next year). I strongly support going to WJ if we can. Stronger school, barely different distance, less utilization, more reasonable farms rates. Very confused by the backlash here. I don’t feel used at all or a token poor person. I simply want what’s best for my kids

Then you’re not a VM parent now and likely a Farmland parent. Or if you are you want to be able to afford a better home addition.
I’m a VM parent and we want Woodward for the many reasons above.

So sick of the assumptions!! God forbid someone disagrees with you. I LIVE in holiday park. I am a VM parent. I don’t have millions of dollars for a home addition what is this nonsense?! These two neighboring schools should be very similar to each other given they are RIGHT next to each other and this proposal along with the class offerings/programs ensures they won’t be

Then advocate for MCPS to adopt the policies and consequences recommended in OLO Report 2026-2 and stop complaining about schooo boundaries. Unless you have a real issue with travel time, complaining about the boundaries is just pointing out how inequitable the system is. If you don’t try to fix it you are part of the problem!

I am trying to fix it. Thanks for the advice though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is getting out of hand. Farmland folks, let’s remember these key points for when we speak to the BOE:

1) We are entitled to a FARMs rate that we are comfortable with.
2) Just because we didn’t advocate for “balance” in the past doesn’t mean we can’t advocate for it now.
3) Our property values are sacrosanct.

LOL! FARMland does not like FARMS kids. the irony