Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

Russ Vought’s RIF plans. No Fed is celebrating.

That’s not going to happen. MAGA should be furious their leaders are paying Feds to hang out at home and chill. And you’re wrong, plenty of people are very happy not to go into the office tomorrow and still get paid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

There is no furlough. They are firing.
Reality is Democrats will shut down for a little while for show, but Schumer will arrange for some safe D senators to vote to pass the budget, covering for people in tough seats. Most likely the retiring Senators like Shaheen.

RIF takes 60 days. With the plan they have been discussing, they furlough and on day 60 it becomes a RIF. And nobody can sit back with certainty and proclaim it absolutely won't happen. Even Trump appointees are panicked about it.

Ok, so then what happens when funding is restored? They still need people to run programs. I think it's all a bluff to get Feds "traumatized" all over again, because logistically it makes no sense.

I've heard someone say the plan is to fire all the "non-essential" feds during the shutdown and then rehire them when the government reopens, thereby avoiding backpay. That's absurd, though, because firing and hiring take forever (in the federal government and the private sector), involve paperwork, etc.

And the lawsuits. And the loss of the all the people with options, which are likely the best workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What we need are some of the essential folks, like Air traffic controllers, to sick out in sympathy with their federal breatheren.

Maybe Americans need to come together for a general strike.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What we need are some of the essential folks, like Air traffic controllers, to sick out in sympathy with their federal breatheren.

Maybe Americans need to come together for a general strike.

We can even get Americans en masse to agree to hold the party in charge of both houses of Congress and the White House responsible for keeping their government open.

To be clear, I think a general strike would be a great tactic. I just don't see it happening in this brain dead, do-nothing, me me me environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???

If it's not going to happen then why are OMB, OPM, and agencies all preparing for it? Again, if the government shuts down that clock will start ticking, and 60 days later 92+ percent of the federal workforce will be gone, unless something changes.

Who are you people who are absolutely certain it won't happen? You're going to have to be a White House or Senate Staffer with inside knowledge to be making a declaration like that with any certainty.

You know the longest shutdown so far is 35 days?

That prior longest shutdown was on Trump's watch and he clearly didn't learn and still thinks it's fine to shut the government down and fire most of the workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

If it lasts 60 days there won't be any compensation and most of the government will cease to exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

If it lasts 60 days there won't be any compensation and most of the government will cease to exist.

Odd that it's Fa, not Antifa, bringing us anarchy.

[Anonymous]

USPTO employees received the most disgustingly political emails that I've seen in my tenure. It used to be apolitical across the board. Trump 1 tested the waters the first time but this far exceeds that.

It's so gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USPTO employees received the most disgustingly political emails that I've seen in my tenure. It used to be apolitical across the board. Trump 1 tested the waters the first time but this far exceeds that.

It's so gross.

The PTO is fee-funded and usually doesn't close during a shutdown. Is that what the email said/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:USPTO employees received the most disgustingly political emails that I've seen in my tenure. It used to be apolitical across the board. Trump 1 tested the waters the first time but this far exceeds that.

It's so gross.

The PTO is fee-funded and usually doesn't close during a shutdown. Is that what the email said/

It said the Chinese are inside the PTO stealing our Intellectual Property everyday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

Russ Vought’s RIF plans. No Fed is celebrating.

That’s not going to happen. MAGA should be furious their leaders are paying Feds to hang out at home and chill. And you’re wrong, plenty of people are very happy not to go into the office tomorrow and still get paid.

The ones they don't bring back should sue because they'l win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

59 days is plenty of time for TACO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:President Trump in the Oval Office said a government shutdown gives his administration the power to cut benefit programs, which include Social Security and Medicare.

Another threat, another TACO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The expiration of these subsidies would significantly impact both individuals relying on ACA coverage and the healthcare system as a whole.

Number of People Affected -
Total Loss of Coverage: Over 7 million people are projected to lose subsidized health coverage if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire.
Uninsured Individuals: Nearly 5 million of those will become completely uninsured.

Financial Implications -
Healthcare Providers: Hospitals and healthcare providers could face a loss of more than $32 billion in revenue due to reduced patient services and increased uncompensated care.
Unpaid Medical Bills: An additional $7.7 billion in unpaid medical bills is expected from uninsured patients.

Premium Increases -
Rising Costs: Average health insurance premiums could increase by approximately 75% for millions of Americans if the subsidies are not renewed.

The people voted for this! At some point Democrats need to stop bailing out MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Trump: "When you shut it down, you have to do layoffs. So, we'd be laying off a lot of people that are going to be very affected, and they're gonna be Democrats."