Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???

If it's not going to happen then why are OMB, OPM, and agencies all preparing for it? Again, if the government shuts down that clock will start ticking, and 60 days later 92+ percent of the federal workforce will be gone, unless something changes.

Who are you people who are absolutely certain it won't happen? You're going to have to be a White House or Senate Staffer with inside knowledge to be making a declaration like that with any certainty.

You know the longest shutdown so far is 35 days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:a "shutdown" that for me seems like it wont have any impact. my entire office is excepted. all the functions I deal with keep on going. D's are giving T a giant free chainsaw to cut anything not deemed 'essential'. he's gonna let his red states get whatever and lock down the money to the 'blue' ones.

Without the blue states, there is going to be very little money for the red ones. Whomp Whomp.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

Russ Vought’s RIF plans. No Fed is celebrating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???

have you not been paying attention?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

There is no furlough. They are firing.
Reality is Democrats will shut down for a little while for show, but Schumer will arrange for some safe D senators to vote to pass the budget, covering for people in tough seats. Most likely the retiring Senators like Shaheen.

RIF takes 60 days. With the plan they have been discussing, they furlough and on day 60 it becomes a RIF. And nobody can sit back with certainty and proclaim it absolutely won't happen. Even Trump appointees are panicked about it.

[Anonymous]

We're already paying contractors to sit and do nothing bc there isn't anyone to process their papers and ID cards. They can't access any computers so they literally come to work, surf their phones all day and get paid for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

Russ Vought’s RIF plans. No Fed is celebrating.

What is this guy's problem? Was Vought a weenie in elementary school? Why is he so set on being destructive and how pathetic is it to commit your life to making some loser king?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Federal law prohibits the use of taxpayer dollars to provide medical coverage to undocumented individuals. That's the law.

So the right wing tripe is just that.

I would rather illegals pay into the healthcare system instead of using services for free. More $$ into the system means lower rates for everyone.

They do pay in but get no services in return.

Untrue. They are using ER and hospital services. Then the hospitals write them off as uninsured and the feds reimburse.

States provide emergency medical services (including labor/delivery) through a program sometimes called “Emergency Medicaid.” Under this, the federal government (via Medicaid) reimburses hospitals for emergency services for people who meet all other Medicaid eligibility criteria except citizenship. Many immigrant patients will receive care, but then be unable to pay. Hospitals then “write off” such costs. Some of that burden is offset through Disproportionate Share Hospital payments, which are federal/state funds to hospitals that serve low-income and uninsured patients.

It's only emergency cases which represent less than 1% of Medicare, and even then it's state Medicare funding, not federal. So no, there's not "$1.5 trillion in free shit for illegals" as one persistently moronic poster keeps trying to claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

There is no furlough. They are firing.
Reality is Democrats will shut down for a little while for show, but Schumer will arrange for some safe D senators to vote to pass the budget, covering for people in tough seats. Most likely the retiring Senators like Shaheen.

RIF takes 60 days. With the plan they have been discussing, they furlough and on day 60 it becomes a RIF. And nobody can sit back with certainty and proclaim it absolutely won't happen. Even Trump appointees are panicked about it.

Ok, so then what happens when funding is restored? They still need people to run programs. I think it's all a bluff to get Feds "traumatized" all over again, because logistically it makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???

have you not been paying attention?

Our agency got notice from the head (appointed and senate confirmed) that the shutdown is happening. We report for 2 hours tomorrow morning to do shutdown operations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

There is no furlough. They are firing.
Reality is Democrats will shut down for a little while for show, but Schumer will arrange for some safe D senators to vote to pass the budget, covering for people in tough seats. Most likely the retiring Senators like Shaheen.

RIF takes 60 days. With the plan they have been discussing, they furlough and on day 60 it becomes a RIF. And nobody can sit back with certainty and proclaim it absolutely won't happen. Even Trump appointees are panicked about it.

Ok, so then what happens when funding is restored? They still need people to run programs. I think it's all a bluff to get Feds "traumatized" all over again, because logistically it makes no sense.

I think a deal will happen before 60 days. This is all drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a bit ironic that this shutdown will result in feds being paid for not working and definitely not being in person like they want. We all know there will be full compensation at the end so shouldn’t MAGA hate this? It hurts contractors, mostly republican, more than Feds. What am I missing?

Russ Vought’s RIF plans. No Fed is celebrating.

What is this guy's problem? Was Vought a weenie in elementary school? Why is he so set on being destructive and how pathetic is it to commit your life to making some loser king?

Not going into details but his personal/family life looks sad and depressing but I suspect he became a jerk before that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.

Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.

There is no furlough. They are firing.
Reality is Democrats will shut down for a little while for show, but Schumer will arrange for some safe D senators to vote to pass the budget, covering for people in tough seats. Most likely the retiring Senators like Shaheen.

RIF takes 60 days. With the plan they have been discussing, they furlough and on day 60 it becomes a RIF. And nobody can sit back with certainty and proclaim it absolutely won't happen. Even Trump appointees are panicked about it.

Ok, so then what happens when funding is restored? They still need people to run programs. I think it's all a bluff to get Feds "traumatized" all over again, because logistically it makes no sense.

I've heard someone say the plan is to fire all the "non-essential" feds during the shutdown and then rehire them when the government reopens, thereby avoiding backpay. That's absurd, though, because firing and hiring take forever (in the federal government and the private sector), involve paperwork, etc.

[Anonymous]

What we need are some of the essential folks, like Air traffic controllers, to sick out in sympathy with their federal breatheren.