Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

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Anonymous wrote:Zionists controlling America really has brainwashed it's citizens to actually think people fighting against US imperialism are the bad guys when it's the opposite, or are Americans that horrible of people?

You've persuaded me: we Americans are all horrible people.

Sounds like you'd fit right in with Columbia University Apartheid Divest:

"As the fascism ingrained in the American consciousness becomes ever more explicit and irrefutable, we seek community and instruction from militants in the Global South, who have been on the frontlines in the fight against tyranny and domination which undergird the imperialist world order."

https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/anti-israel-columbia-students-call-for-total-eradication-of-western-civilization-divest-palestine-hamas-bangladesh-protests-demonstrations

Yes, horrible people support Western Imperalism. That's not an opinion, it's a fact and the fact that only young extreme leftist students have the brains to believe that in America is beyond disgusting.

So are you suggesting (like CUAD) violent attacks on the West?

This is the problem right here acting like the victim even though the US is the main one that has had a history of violence so anything else is simply resistance.

Is that a "yes"? Are you endorsing violence against America?

Just saying being against Western Imperialism and resisting against is very much justified worldwide.

Again, is that a “yes”, you do support violence against the US?’

Sure sounds like it but you’re too chickensh*t to say it.

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Anonymous wrote:Zionists controlling America really has brainwashed it's citizens to actually think people fighting against US imperialism are the bad guys when it's the opposite, or are Americans that horrible of people?

You've persuaded me: we Americans are all horrible people.

Sounds like you'd fit right in with Columbia University Apartheid Divest:

"As the fascism ingrained in the American consciousness becomes ever more explicit and irrefutable, we seek community and instruction from militants in the Global South, who have been on the frontlines in the fight against tyranny and domination which undergird the imperialist world order."

https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/anti-israel-columbia-students-call-for-total-eradication-of-western-civilization-divest-palestine-hamas-bangladesh-protests-demonstrations

Yes, horrible people support Western Imperalism. That's not an opinion, it's a fact and the fact that only young extreme leftist students have the brains to believe that in America is beyond disgusting.

So are you suggesting (like CUAD) violent attacks on the West?

This is the problem right here acting like the victim even though the US is the main one that has had a history of violence so anything else is simply resistance.

Is that a "yes"? Are you endorsing violence against America?

Just saying being against Western Imperialism and resisting against is very much justified worldwide.

Again, is that a “yes”, you do support violence against the US?’

Sure sounds like it but you’re too chickensh*t to say it.

Seems like this is violence against Israel not the US.

Maybe keep the two distinct in your mind

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Anonymous wrote:How about supporters of violent settlers in the West Bank? Should we deport them?

With provisional green cards? Fine by me.

In fact we did exactly that:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-us-deny-visas-extremist-settliers-west-bank/

No we didn't. The US denied visas for certain Israelis to be able to come to the US. Which is completely different from deporting a permanent legal resident with a green card - someone who is already in our country, entitled to Constitutional rights and due process.

+1 not the same.

Even if it's not the same no one on the Left cared about this new precedent created by Biden and it swept broadly enough to now deny a Visa to anyone who disagrees with WH foreign policy. That now means anyone who thinks Israel are colonial settlers and there should only be a single Palestinian state.

"Even if it's not the same, I'm going to bring in something that's not related because I can't defend this."

Once again, a green card holder is protected by US laws. A foreigner wanting a visa to come to the US is not protected by US law.

Not if they committed fraud by intentionally misrepresenting their involvement in activities asked about on the form. If you lie about something that is material, and it comes to light, your benefit, including citizenship, can be revoked and you will be deported.

Regardless of what you think he did, he is protected by US law in that he gets his day in court, ie, due process.

A foreigner requesting a visa to come to the US doesn't get due process.

Get it?

Also, Melania lied on her green card application. Why isn't she getting deported?

His administrative day in court is with an immigration judge. What don't you get?

Ok, I'm not a lawyer, so I am asking some questions here about rights.

Does the government have the right to detain a green card holder without a warrant? And then hold him without any charges? If so, for how long?

Does the same apply to US citizens (detain without a warrant and without charges) ? If so, under what circumstances and for how long?

Are there any differences in the rights of a US born citizen vs a US naturalized citizen? I thought the only thing a naturalized citizen could not do was be president. Any other differences?

Thank you in advance!

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Anonymous wrote:How about supporters of violent settlers in the West Bank? Should we deport them?

With provisional green cards? Fine by me.

In fact we did exactly that:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-us-deny-visas-extremist-settliers-west-bank/

No we didn't. The US denied visas for certain Israelis to be able to come to the US. Which is completely different from deporting a permanent legal resident with a green card - someone who is already in our country, entitled to Constitutional rights and due process.

+1 not the same.

Even if it's not the same no one on the Left cared about this new precedent created by Biden and it swept broadly enough to now deny a Visa to anyone who disagrees with WH foreign policy. That now means anyone who thinks Israel are colonial settlers and there should only be a single Palestinian state.

"Even if it's not the same, I'm going to bring in something that's not related because I can't defend this."

Once again, a green card holder is protected by US laws. A foreigner wanting a visa to come to the US is not protected by US law.

Not if they committed fraud by intentionally misrepresenting their involvement in activities asked about on the form. If you lie about something that is material, and it comes to light, your benefit, including citizenship, can be revoked and you will be deported.

Regardless of what you think he did, he is protected by US law in that he gets his day in court, ie, due process.

A foreigner requesting a visa to come to the US doesn't get due process.

Get it?

Also, Melania lied on her green card application. Why isn't she getting deported?

His administrative day in court is with an immigration judge. What don't you get?

Ok, I'm not a lawyer, so I am asking some questions here about rights.

Does the government have the right to detain a green card holder without a warrant? And then hold him without any charges? If so, for how long?

Does the same apply to US citizens (detain without a warrant and without charges) ? If so, under what circumstances and for how long?

Are there any differences in the rights of a US born citizen vs a US naturalized citizen? I thought the only thing a naturalized citizen could not do was be president. Any other differences?

Thank you in advance!

Naturalized citizenship can be revoked if it was obtained fraudulently.

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Anonymous wrote:He aligns with Hamas. Once you do the you are not non-violent.

He is not but even if he was why should the US do anything? It is not in the US interest to get involved with unimportant country such as Israel.

Hamas wants to execute all Americans. I don’t want Hamas supporters here.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty bold action on his part for a non-citizen. Maybe this will work out for him and maybe it won’t, but he was pretty reckless. I can’t imagine behaving such a way in a country where I am but a guest.

Yep. Lots of people on the left think seem to think people from other countries are entitled to U.S. citizenship all while they moan about what a horrible country this is. It's quite fascinating.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL.

Seriously- this guy was a few steps away from driving a stolen Uber into Times Square.

He is getting off easy. Send him back to wherever and let IDF or one of our drones deal with him.

Left is getting worked up about an agitator looking for a fight - he will get it; just out of US.

This man was a Columbia graduate with an eight months pregnant wife.

This is terrifying and no wonder we have a terror problem at all with the mentality that you just mentioned.

What if you were taken from your home at random thanks to your religion? That used to happen to Jews not even 100 years ago you know. You’re supporting a Zionist Gestapo

No equivalence. He was arrested not at random but for his conduct, not his religious affiliation. His wife's pregnancy is irrelevant to anything, as is the fact he is married, or if he had 19 children already.

You may or may not think his conduct rises to the level of a deportable offense. That's a function of the conduct and the relevant law.

It's unhelpful to make patently unsupportable and clearly wrong claims about the basis for his detention.

Arrested without a warrant?

Warrantless arrests are permissible under many circumstances.

A guy sitting in his home? Cite the exception that applies here.

It sounds like from this article he was on his way home, not at home.
https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-440828980a4ee7bf4ddcf3d123e02b3e

ICE can arrest you without a warrant in a public place. They need a warrant to enter your home in most cases.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights

He will have his day in court. His first hearing is tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

The guy is Palestinian. Of course, he is fighting for his people. Give the poor guy a break! I respect him for standing up for the rights of his people

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Yep, the never again Jews are siding with Trump now. Wow!

Who could have guessed that genocidal maniacs will side with Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy is Palestinian. Of course, he is fighting for his people. Give the poor guy a break! I respect him for standing up for the rights of his people

Because his ethnicity blinds him to basic concepts of right, wrong, and justice? Evidently.

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Anonymous wrote:He aligns with Hamas. Once you do the you are not non-violent.

He is not but even if he was why should the US do anything? It is not in the US interest to get involved with unimportant country such as Israel.

Hamas wants to execute all Americans. I don’t want Hamas supporters here.

What’s the source for this? I’ve never even seen or heard of a single credible reference to America or Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:He aligns with Hamas. Once you do the you are not non-violent.

He is not but even if he was why should the US do anything? It is not in the US interest to get involved with unimportant country such as Israel.

Hamas wants to execute all Americans. I don’t want Hamas supporters here.

What’s the source for this? I’ve never even seen or heard of a single credible reference to America or Americans.

This is a Ham-A$$ troll and its lame trolling. Ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:He aligns with Hamas. Once you do the you are not non-violent.

He is not but even if he was why should the US do anything? It is not in the US interest to get involved with unimportant country such as Israel.

Hamas wants to execute all Americans. I don’t want Hamas supporters here.

What’s the source for this? I’ve never even seen or heard of a single credible reference to America or Americans.

This is a Ham-A$$ troll and its lame trolling. Ignore.

A Hamas troll is the poster who stated that “Hamas wants to execute all Americans”, but I should ignore them?

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Anonymous wrote:Zionists controlling America really has brainwashed it's citizens to actually think people fighting against US imperialism are the bad guys when it's the opposite, or are Americans that horrible of people?

You've persuaded me: we Americans are all horrible people.

Sounds like you'd fit right in with Columbia University Apartheid Divest:

"As the fascism ingrained in the American consciousness becomes ever more explicit and irrefutable, we seek community and instruction from militants in the Global South, who have been on the frontlines in the fight against tyranny and domination which undergird the imperialist world order."

https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/anti-israel-columbia-students-call-for-total-eradication-of-western-civilization-divest-palestine-hamas-bangladesh-protests-demonstrations

Yes, horrible people support Western Imperalism. That's not an opinion, it's a fact and the fact that only young extreme leftist students have the brains to believe that in America is beyond disgusting.

So are you suggesting (like CUAD) violent attacks on the West?

This is the problem right here acting like the victim even though the US is the main one that has had a history of violence so anything else is simply resistance.

Is that a "yes"? Are you endorsing violence against America?

Just saying being against Western Imperialism and resisting against is very much justified worldwide.

Again, is that a “yes”, you do support violence against the US?’

Sure sounds like it but you’re too chickensh*t to say it.

Yes to all resistance against occupiers including USA. there

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Anonymous wrote:The guy is Palestinian. Of course, he is fighting for his people. Give the poor guy a break! I respect him for standing up for the rights of his people

Agree. If he was a blond blue-eyed Ukrainian screaming about the injustices his country is facing, y’all would be up in arms.