Golden Globe Awards 2025

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Anonymous wrote:emilia perez was also awful and Anora totally leaving with nothing is suspicious


Why was Emilia Perez getting so much praise? I tried watching and it was cringe-worthy.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


NP. Seems like she’s gotten pretty far.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Agree with this. She is a mediocre actress and bland in interviews.



She is fantastic in Euphoria!
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


I’m very middle aged and find Zendaya charming. I never watched her in Euphoria and didn’t see Challengers but she wa very good in the Spiderman movies and also good in Dune. She has a natural charm and the camera loves her, which goes a long way. I guess we’ll see if she ever gets a really gritty role that doesn’t require her to be charming/beautiful. Sometimes it takes a really extreme toll for people to notice that a beautiful woman can actually act — like Halle Berry in Monsters Ball or Charlize Theron in Monster. (Incidentally, speaking of Demi — GI Jane was supposed to be that role for Demi but it sort of flopped.)
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


She's good in Challengers and it's not a nothing role. I am struggling to identify other actresses of her generation I like more. Elle Fanning is a great actress but she has a narrow range. I (and a lot of other people) fine Anya Taylor-Joy grating in a lot of things. Millie Bobbie Brown doesn't seem that interested in acting -- what is she even doing these days? I love Pauline Chalamet but she has no film work to speak of (I know her from Sex Lives of College Girls) and she's more of a comedic actresses. Maybe Maude Apatow? I think Sydney Sweeney is an exceedingly mediocre actor, I think her stardom is entirely about her looks. I like Hailee Steinfeld but she's another one who doesn't seem that interested in acting right now -- the only thing I can think of her doing lately is that Marvel show with the Hawkeye character. Selena Gomez is a bit older but same generation and I find her flat affect and vocal tics too distracting to make her particularly versatile (I have not seen Emilia Perez yet).

In general I think there are more men in this crop who are serious acting talents. Chalamet, Tom Holland, Finn Wolfhard. Slightly older but Nicholous Hoult and Miles Teller are in the mix for a lot of the same roles at this point. I don't know why there are fewer women in this upcoming generation who seem really focused on acting specifically. Maybe there are just fewer roles available, maybe younger performers don't view acting as the best use of their efforts if they want a career with longevity (I see the merit in exploring music and branding in terms of just making money and investing in something less subject to the whims of a handful of directors/producers).
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


I’m very middle aged and find Zendaya charming. I never watched her in Euphoria and didn’t see Challengers but she wa very good in the Spiderman movies and also good in Dune. She has a natural charm and the camera loves her, which goes a long way. I guess we’ll see if she ever gets a really gritty role that doesn’t require her to be charming/beautiful. Sometimes it takes a really extreme toll for people to notice that a beautiful woman can actually act — like Halle Berry in Monsters Ball or Charlize Theron in Monster. (Incidentally, speaking of Demi — GI Jane was supposed to be that role for Demi but it sort of flopped.)


I think the next Dune installment will focus on her character. Not exactly a gritty role but would test her ability to carry a major franchise if she winds up the focus over Chalamet.

The fact that she did Challengers indicates she's interested in doing small films and working with more inventive directors, which should lead to more chances for her to stretch acting-wise. It worked out pretty well for Emma Stone (even though I actually hate her work with Yorgos Lanthimos and really wish she'd stop making those movies and do something else).
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


NP. Seems like she’s gotten pretty far.


Pretty far. But now she needs to act. This isn’t Americas Next Top Model.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


She's good in Challengers and it's not a nothing role. I am struggling to identify other actresses of her generation I like more. Elle Fanning is a great actress but she has a narrow range. I (and a lot of other people) fine Anya Taylor-Joy grating in a lot of things. Millie Bobbie Brown doesn't seem that interested in acting -- what is she even doing these days? I love Pauline Chalamet but she has no film work to speak of (I know her from Sex Lives of College Girls) and she's more of a comedic actresses. Maybe Maude Apatow? I think Sydney Sweeney is an exceedingly mediocre actor, I think her stardom is entirely about her looks. I like Hailee Steinfeld but she's another one who doesn't seem that interested in acting right now -- the only thing I can think of her doing lately is that Marvel show with the Hawkeye character. Selena Gomez is a bit older but same generation and I find her flat affect and vocal tics too distracting to make her particularly versatile (I have not seen Emilia Perez yet).

In general I think there are more men in this crop who are serious acting talents. Chalamet, Tom Holland, Finn Wolfhard. Slightly older but Nicholous Hoult and Miles Teller are in the mix for a lot of the same roles at this point. I don't know why there are fewer women in this upcoming generation who seem really focused on acting specifically. Maybe there are just fewer roles available, maybe younger performers don't view acting as the best use of their efforts if they want a career with longevity (I see the merit in exploring music and branding in terms of just making money and investing in something less subject to the whims of a handful of directors/producers).


Oh just thought of a peer who is a serious actress: Margaret Qualley. But I wouldn't say she's a significantly better actor than Zendaya. Very different quality, they probably aren't up for many of the same roles. But that's problem her biggest peer at the moment and I do think she's very talented.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


NP. Seems like she’s gotten pretty far.


Pretty far. But now she needs to act. This isn’t Americas Next Top Model.


Did you see Challengers? She acts in that movie. The other two lead actors are really phenomenal and she holds her own with them, too.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


NP. Seems like she’s gotten pretty far.


Pretty far. But now she needs to act. This isn’t Americas Next Top Model.


She…is already acting. In all of the roles she’s being cast in. Are you unfamiliar with her?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't love the color of Zendaya's dress but as usual it's a stunning dress and she looks fantastic.


This is all anyone pretty much has to say about Zendaya. Her acting talent is very mediocre.


Movie stars get measured by multiple metrics, not just acting talent/skill. There is also a charisma/magnetism metric (it factor), as well simply looking very good on film. I think Zendaya is middling on acting talent and skill, above average on charisma/magnetism, very high on looking gorgeous on film. Often with actors like that, they get better as they age because the charisma/magnetism never goes away but their skill as an actor improves with experience. Sadly, for women, they start to lose their on-screen looks due to societal expectations and they often don't get a chance to develop as an actor because they stop getting roles. Look at Demi Moore -- she finally got a super meaty role in her 60s after years of not having much at all to work with, and she knocked it out of the park. She had a different quality back at the start of her career than Zendaya has now, but about evenly matched in terms of acting skill (Demi had a habit of over-acting in her early roles, perhaps the result of coming up in soaps, while Zendaya has a tendency to under act but that's also very much the style of this era so she may just be giving directors what they want).

In any case, I can think of plenty of actors less deserving praise than Zendaya. The world needs movie stars and she is one. She's a better actor than Glen Powell (though his on-screen magnetism is through the roof).


That's a lot of words to make up for her marginal acting talent. She was a child star but doesn't seem to be excelling as an adult actress around much more talented women. A pretty face can only get you so far.


NP. Seems like she’s gotten pretty far.



Two Emmy awards and a Golden Globe, plus nominations, and working with top-tier filmmakers. She's way ahead of her peers. I think she's solid not exceptional, agree with PP she has little competition. Except for Saoirse Ronan, who is only two years older than her, but reads as more mature. Same with Florence Pugh, who is only one year older. I don't think Zendaya is in their league, at least not yet. Sophie Thatcher of Yellowjackets is one to watch, but can't really think of anyone else. Julia Garner, but she hasn't done much since Ozark.


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Anonymous wrote:Demi Moore looks amazing!!! Gorgeous dress. She must have the best plastic surgeon on the planet.


Yep, I'll have what she's having.


Her acceptance award was amazing.
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Yep, I'll have what she's having.


Her acceptance award was amazing.


speech omg I need to get some coffee
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone seemed really supportive of each this year. I wasn't the usual Hollywood fake news


? What does this even mean? Are you Chris Rock or Will Smith?
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Anonymous wrote:emilia perez was also awful and Anora totally leaving with nothing is suspicious


Why was Emilia Perez getting so much praise? I tried watching and it was cringe-worthy.


I haven't watched it yet -- the musical element is off-putting to me. I saw everything in the Comedy/Musical category except Emilia Perez and Wicked and really liked all of them.

Zoe Saldana was annoying at the ceremony last night. I thought it was so obnoxious for her to run up on stage to give the award for, I think, foreign language film? It wasn't her moment, she could have sat in her seat and cheered them on like everyone else. She'd already received her own award and given her own speech, she didn't need to hog someone else's moment.
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