New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

I have to say, the freak out by the teenagers is pretty amusing. This is clearly not an adult, because they know that teachers don't have paid planning periods any more.

It's probably an adult with no kids in school and who has no idea what school is like these days - including the loss of planning periods.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

Teachers are telling you it’s harming the students. So are scientists. Social media companies admit that they program their platforms to be addictive as possible. Do you not experience your child being distracted on their phone? If you don’t, you either don’t have a teenager or you aren’t paying attention.

We make rules for children in schools that are distinct from adult employees in all kinds of professional jobs. I’m so unclear why you think that making a rule for children that doesn’t apply to adults makes the rule for children a bad rule? Of course it would be better if we all (adults) put our phones down during the work day. But that is a separate question from making rules for students.

If you think it is also bad for adults, then why wouldn't you expect adults to abide by the same rule when they are supposed to be working? We're not talking about what they do at home.

+1. Plus it's going to be pretty hard for teachers to enforce a ban when they are on their own phones. Practice what you preach!!!

Y'all are acting like teachers are on their phones all day, including during their own lectures and classes. The "teachers" that have been guilty of this are substitute teachers - they are the ones who should be given pouches when they report for duty.

Some of them are addicted to their phones, just like some students are. Give everyone pouches.

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APS should install cell phone jammers at schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

Teachers are telling you it’s harming the students. So are scientists. Social media companies admit that they program their platforms to be addictive as possible. Do you not experience your child being distracted on their phone? If you don’t, you either don’t have a teenager or you aren’t paying attention.

We make rules for children in schools that are distinct from adult employees in all kinds of professional jobs. I’m so unclear why you think that making a rule for children that doesn’t apply to adults makes the rule for children a bad rule? Of course it would be better if we all (adults) put our phones down during the work day. But that is a separate question from making rules for students.

If you think it is also bad for adults, then why wouldn't you expect adults to abide by the same rule when they are supposed to be working? We're not talking about what they do at home.

+1. Plus it's going to be pretty hard for teachers to enforce a ban when they are on their own phones. Practice what you preach!!!

Y'all are acting like teachers are on their phones all day, including during their own lectures and classes. The "teachers" that have been guilty of this are substitute teachers - they are the ones who should be given pouches when they report for duty.

I’m a teacher that uses multiple classrooms for instruction. I need to be able to use my cell to communicate quickly with other teachers in my department while I’m using my laptop to project. I’m definitely not on the phone a lot, but I’d pissed off if some teenaged kid thinks the same rules should apply to me if I use it quickly- which they will, based off of some of these responses.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

Sure. Give me another computer and a ton of wasted instructional time to look up everyone’s classroom phone number. Then, no problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

Sure. Give me another computer and a ton of wasted instructional time to look up everyone’s classroom phone number. Then, no problem.

Why do you have to call other classrooms so often while you're teaching?

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

Sure. Give me another computer and a ton of wasted instructional time to look up everyone’s classroom phone number. Then, no problem.

Why do you have to call other classrooms so often while you're teaching?

Sometimes you need a custodian. A counselor. Security. An administrator. I’m an educated adult. If I want to use my cell to text these people, I’m going to do it.

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Okay? My phone is always on DND at work, I check it in between meetings, so its not like this would be the "gotcha" you think it is. My phone only rings if my Emergency Contacts call me.

I'd be fine with this except you took this away from high school students, so why do you think you should get this access while they can't?

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

Sure. Give me another computer and a ton of wasted instructional time to look up everyone’s classroom phone number. Then, no problem.

Why do you have to call other classrooms so often while you're teaching?

Sometimes you need a custodian. A counselor. Security. An administrator. I’m an educated adult. If I want to use my cell to text these people, I’m going to do it.

You can use a workaround and use the phone in your classroom! Can't you figure that out?

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

Sure. Give me another computer and a ton of wasted instructional time to look up everyone’s classroom phone number. Then, no problem.

Well, that's what you're making your student do. If they can figure out how to operate using 1990s tech, so can you! Being the good teacher you are, model it for them.

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No wonder some teachers can't enforce cell phone rules in their class. Kids aren't going to follow a no cell phone rule when their own teacher is on their personal phone!

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

Sure. Give me another computer and a ton of wasted instructional time to look up everyone’s classroom phone number. Then, no problem.

Why do you have to call other classrooms so often while you're teaching?

Sometimes you need a custodian. A counselor. Security. An administrator. I’m an educated adult. If I want to use my cell to text these people, I’m going to do it.

you sound addicted

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

Teachers are telling you it’s harming the students. So are scientists. Social media companies admit that they program their platforms to be addictive as possible. Do you not experience your child being distracted on their phone? If you don’t, you either don’t have a teenager or you aren’t paying attention.

We make rules for children in schools that are distinct from adult employees in all kinds of professional jobs. I’m so unclear why you think that making a rule for children that doesn’t apply to adults makes the rule for children a bad rule? Of course it would be better if we all (adults) put our phones down during the work day. But that is a separate question from making rules for students.

If you think it is also bad for adults, then why wouldn't you expect adults to abide by the same rule when they are supposed to be working? We're not talking about what they do at home.

+1. Plus it's going to be pretty hard for teachers to enforce a ban when they are on their own phones. Practice what you preach!!!

Y'all are acting like teachers are on their phones all day, including during their own lectures and classes. The "teachers" that have been guilty of this are substitute teachers - they are the ones who should be given pouches when they report for duty.

I’m a teacher that uses multiple classrooms for instruction. I need to be able to use my cell to communicate quickly with other teachers in my department while I’m using my laptop to project. I’m definitely not on the phone a lot, but I’d pissed off if some teenaged kid thinks the same rules should apply to me if I use it quickly- which they will, based off of some of these responses.

Why do you NEED to communicate with other teachers on your personal phone WHILE you are teaching?

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School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

Teachers are adults with different responsibilities. What are you, 12?

If a teacher is using a phone during class to scroll TikTok, I agree they should be fired. We can’t expel students for doing it though, because this is public school.

What about adult high school students?

"Adult" high school students by and large don't have adult responsibilities. If they have children of their own, i imagine they can get documentation allowing them a phone, just like some students with medical needs may have a phone.

Well adults survived with their adult responsiblities before cell phones, you can too!

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Anonymous wrote:At Yorktown, they are now confiscating phones if they are seen in the lunch room. My DC is following the rules, but said morale is really low, especially among seniors.

Well yeah of course if you are practically addicted to something and then you have to go cold turkey of course you are going to be sad and depressed. Duh. I am sure they will get over it.

Why don't YOU try getting rid of your phone all day and report back on how long you hold out?

I go "all day" without it - unless someone I know calls me on my cell phone - most days. I'll have it on me most of the time when I'm out of the house in case it's needed/receive emergency message from school or family; but I don't carry it around the house with me all night or all day on the weekends.
My spouse goes "all day" without it because it's BANNED in his work space. He doesn't even bother to take it in and lock it up anymore. So, he manages regularly from the time he gets up at 5 am (uses it as alarm to wake) until after he gets home 4 - 5 pm.
So, I'd say we "hold out" pretty well. Of course there are times it would be helpful if the other had their phone on them, but we survive. Your child will survive 6-1/2 hours on school days with a check-in opportunity mid-way.

so you're not going without it all day at all if you answer calls and have it on you. Try doing what you're doing to the kids. Put it in a pouch and lock it away. I'm sure you can figure out another way to contact people and function!!!

Calm down.

The policy is, and will continue to be, for students and not for adult teachers. Cope.