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Anonymous
I don’t understand why Paramount supporters (and their social media accounts) constantly have to point out that they are the only CHRVA club to do some narrowly defined thing. In this case there is literally a list a few posts ago that shows there is only a single CHRVA team qualified in open at every age group from 13-18s. As far as I know, this is the first time as a region that CHRVA has a team qualified open in every age group with an open division. I also think this may be the first time that 3 different CHRVA clubs qualified teams in open in the same season. Hopefully that means the level of play in the DMV is starting to catch up to other areas of the country with many more strong teams. |
Anonymous
I thought the same thing. Their long post about how they’re the only CHRVA team blah blah blah… makes me cringe. Paramount is a great club, but they work way too hard to promote/market themselves by presenting limited information. As far as records show, only the two teams coached by directors are doing well, other teams just okay. Maybe they’re hoping such marketing will draw more talents for other age groups. |
Anonymous
Doesn't Paramount have the most teams qualified for GJNC this season in CHRVA? That seems more than okay? Metro has the most teams qualified in Open this year (3). |
Anonymous
I don't understand the compulsion to have to make a comparison to other CHRVA clubs. Looking at the USAV spreadsheets, Paramount has 2 open bids, 3 national bids, 1 USA bid, and 2 American bids for a total of 8 bids. Metro has 3 open bids and 4 national bids for a total of 7. Is 8 total bids with 3 being in lower divisions a better accomplishment than having 7 total bids, but in higher divisions? I don't know and to me making those sorts of oddly specific comparisons seems like a not-so-thinly veiled attempt to one up Metro instead of just celebrating your club's accomplishments. |
Anonymous
I think the bid increment happens at 16 teams. A few weeks ago, MD Juniors 14 finished 4th at Show Me Qualifier. The top 2 teams already had open bids (one was Metro 14 Travel). There were 15 teams in the Open division, so only 1 Open bid was awarded, to the 3rd-place team. MD Juniors 14 narrowly missed an Open bid at Show Me. There were 16 teams at Far Western Open division, so 2 Open bids were awarded. Congrats to Paramount 15! |
Anonymous
Look at all the club's in Texas and California. There are two things that have the most status in terms of differentiating clubs from better to worst: Open Bids and total teams qualified. The fact that Metro has U12-U18 qualified, and three open bids is impressive. The fact that Paramount has U12-U18 qualified, with two open bids as well as their 15-2 team qualified, is super impressive. As far as I'm aware, I don't know of any of "2nd/"B'" from other clubs that ever qualify in the CHRVA Region. |
Anonymous
8-15 total teams = 1 open bid awarded 16-23 total teams = 2 open bids awarded 24+ total teams = 3 open bids awarded The total bids awarded is determined by the total teams that were registered at the time registration closed. The only exception is if the numbers drop by more than 1 threshold, then 1 bid is taken away (e.g., if there were 24+ teams registered at the close of registration, but only 15 total teams were still in the tournament by the 1st day of competition, then there would only be 2 bids awarded instead of 3). For the U14 Show Me division, there were only 14 total teams, so there was only 1 bid up for grabs. The two teams that finished 1st and 2nd already had bids, so the two teams that lost in the semifinals played for 3rd place (aka the final bid, as neither of these two teams had bids). MDJRS lost that 3rd place game, so the team they lost to got the final bid. Getting an Open Bid is insanely hard to do. |
Anonymous
Did Paramount 15-2 qualify this year? Paramount 14-2 qualified for 14 Freedom last year. https://www.instagram.com/p/C5yeGPfMe-2/ MVSA 15-2 (Wild) qualified for 15 Freedom last year. https://www.mvsavbc.org/news_article/show/1308289 |
Anonymous
Yes, paramount 15 Cruz qualified by finishing 3rd at regionals |
Anonymous
I don’t think anyone is trying to minimize Paramount’s impressive accomplishments. Their success is worthy of celebrating. I think the point being made is that the constant framing of those accomplishments as a comparison to other CHRVA clubs is a bit odd and unnecessary. Also, as others have noted, it is not unprecedented for CHRVA clubs’ 2nd teams to qualify for GJNC. Another one that comes to mind is Metro 18 North has gotten a bid a few times, although it’s been a few years since that happened (they did go to 18 Nationals in the no-bid required, pay-to-play Patriot division the last couple years) |
Anonymous
I’ve looked through Regionals results from the last 10 years and don’t recall a CHRVA club ever qualifying a 2nd/“B” team in back-to-back seasons. |
Anonymous
Ok. Seems plausible. So other CHRVA clubs have had teams other than their “1s” team get bids, but not in back-to-back seasons? Isn’t that the sort of very specific and narrow comparison to other CHRVA clubs that are being called out as sort of awkward? I just don’t get why there is a need for everything to be expressed in terms of CHRVA. |
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Anonymous
| This is what I had in mind when I started this thread: a place mostly for the beginners to learn about camps, clinics, leagues and other volleyball activities. The focus seems to have shifted toward bids and top clubs, pretty much the same way the discussion goes on other threads. May I suggest opening a different thread to exchange information about what teams got what bids? I think that thread would have a somewhat different audience. |
Anonymous
This thread went off those rails a while ago. I do think the title of the thread does not reflect your initial intent. If the thread was to discuss volleyball camps, clinics, and other training opportunities, it might be better to include that in the name. |