
Really? If you go to Reddit, where you get a much better sense of poster’s views, it seems to be mainstream dems who want him to stay in the race. They are also really concerned about potential challenges to ballot changes in red states with Trump judges. Those who want him to drop are idealized leftists who haven’t been burned in an election. Republicans don’t appt there; harder to fake views because you can see their comment history. |
Biden knew Harris wasn’t electable and couldn’t out shine him . He chose someone who made him look good and who is a worse public speaker than he famously is . He is cunning . Don’t underestimate old Joe. He’s a long time political beast. He knew an unremarkable VP would make it impossible for the Dems to force him out . He has the party exactly where he wanted : trapped and stuck with him and no other electable alternative . He was always planning for two terms. He lied in 2020 when he said he wasn’t going to run in 2024 . |
DP. Well yes, that tracks. And if Trump had used the same bizarre expression, you’d be screaming in outrage, per usual. You do realize Biden just called his Secretary of Defense “that black man,” right? |
This is an absolute dumpster fire and I am here for it! ![]() |
This sub strand is like exhibit A of manipulated conversations. I’m a Biden supporter. I’ll support him if he stays, I’ll support him if he goes. I’ll support Harris if she’s the nominee, I’ll support whoever (though I’d be pissed as hell if they selected a Republican running mate). I’m not deluded. He’s old. I wish he weren’t old because I think he’s still there 80-95% but we need that missing 20-5%. Oh and Trump is as old as Biden and has more cognitive damage than Biden has, plus Trump is a treasonous rapist who will put Aileen Cannon on the Roberts court as thanks for making sure that Republicans are above the law. |
Hakeem Jeffries again says he fully Supports Biden as the nominee.
As long as Biden had him and the congressional black caucus, he won’t step down… |
Exactly! This waw a few days ago “that black man”. He needs to go!!! |
+1 Who are these oblivious people? How can you possibly think Biden can win?! BOTH moderate dems & republicans were clamoring for a new candidate. If they’ll get one we might actually have a chance of beating Trump. People just want someone new! |
You’re also in your own bubble. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/06/30/lichtman-dems-replace-biden/74260967007/ |
No, we're realists! And certainly not extreme left. AOC and Sanders are supporting Biden because they think they can squeeze concesssions out of him during his second term, or failing that, they think they'll do great as opposition leaders if Trump is President. What they fear most is a center-left Democrat winning the White House and stifling the progressive Left once again. I seriously cannot understand how you're not seeing that Biden has ZERO chance of winning right now. Harris has a non-nil chance. We have to take it. It's our only hope. Supporting Biden at this stage mean you're fine with a Trump presidency. So yes, pardon me, but any "Biden supporter" is either a secret Trump supporter or a delusional moron. |
No, he has a handful of tech billionaires. Biden has a handful of other billionaires. High interest rates have crushed tech valuations, excluding chip and AI companies. In an era of higher rates, founders are going to look to cut head count and cut taxes to increase profit margin. In other words, instead of riding market growth and having access to cheap financing they must begin looking at more traditional Republican policies (f#ck the workers and cut muh taxes). David Sacks, Elon, Thiel, etc are looking at their investments which are down from 1Y ago. |
It is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the media had actually be even remotely impartial since the debate, we would not be here, but in a sea of "unnamed sources" which may be the same 2-3 people, the media keeps banging the drum and here we are. |
Biden is 3.5 years older, which as that age, is an eternity...because he acts way older. |
Did you watch Trump's speech last night? He sounded not only old, but stupid and insane, as always. Biden had a bad debate. Fine. He's still mentally sharper than Trump. And regardless, despite what a couple of people on this thread think, no one wants President Harris. |