NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this isn't happening after all?

Democrats and the media are trying to wear Biden down and make him feel overwhelmed and drop out. He’s not going to.

You would think by now democrats would understand they can’t trust the DNC and their wingman, the msm. They are liars and lie together and don’t care what anyone thinks as long as they can manipulate people and maintain power.

What? You sound crazy. He is 81 and feeble. Of course VOTERS are freaking out. We want someone new. It’s not MSM creating a story. They’re reporting the story. Every single Democrat I know thinks he should be replaced. Imagine that! This is not about the media or elites trying to push him out. That is campaign spin. You fell for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so exhausted by this news cycle. Biden seems to be digging in inexplicably. Just step down man and take a nice vacation! I can't take this anymore.

Why shouldn't Trump do this. He's just as old and delusional and really likes to golf and winter in Florida! He's the ideal retirement candidate.

Stop whatabouting. Just stop.
Trump is no spring chicken but Biden has crossed that line from old to “too old”. He seems feeble and weak. He seems confused.

Trump surviving the assasination attempt has catapulted him to look “strong”. Biden cant compete with that. He can barely walk up steps.

I hate trump with every fiber of my being but Biden has to acknowledge he is winning zero independents with this perception and losing dems who are not enthusiastic and will stay home. NJ is in play for Gods sake. NJ!!

+1 Biden supporters are in full denial, which is going to put Trump in the WH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so exhausted by this news cycle. Biden seems to be digging in inexplicably. Just step down man and take a nice vacation! I can't take this anymore.

Why shouldn't Trump do this. He's just as old and delusional and really likes to golf and winter in Florida! He's the ideal retirement candidate.

Stop whatabouting. Just stop.
Trump is no spring chicken but Biden has crossed that line from old to “too old”. He seems feeble and weak. He seems confused.

Trump surviving the assasination attempt has catapulted him to look “strong”. Biden cant compete with that. He can barely walk up steps.

I hate trump with every fiber of my being but Biden has to acknowledge he is winning zero independents with this perception and losing dems who are not enthusiastic and will stay home. NJ is in play for Gods sake. NJ!!

+1 Biden supporters are in full denial, which is going to put Trump in the WH.

Yup 😫

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ahhh. I think it is the right thing and I am mad they ever said he would go for a second term.

But I feel bad for him.

Same. He's served well, but it's time to let someone else run for President.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm saying this but it's now absolutely true:

Joe Biden is going to run a credible anti-elite campaign

Seriously. Trump has all the tech billionaires and media billionaires behind him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

People are starting to chicken out. What a bunch of wimps. How did they ever expect the party to be respected in November in swing states after using an MSM whisper campaign to drive out a sitting President?

These people are a bunch of bedwetters.

+1.

When AOC ,former laughing stock, is the voice of reason, things have really reached a low for the Dems. Republicans never waver like this at the first iota of bad press or a bad public moment.

Dems are making the country have low confidence in Bidens ability by calling for him to step down rather than supporting him and circling the wagons defending his capability .

Dems per usual are the circular firing quad and eating their own once again because they can’t handle one bad week of press and mockery which is usually every single day /a daily occurrence for Republicans (Trump, W Bush)
Dems need to stand by their man as Tammy Wynette and Hillary once infamously said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden is a vegetable. Ds have known this for years and gaslighted public. Ds should not be able to change horses at this time- they made their bed and should now lie on their pee-stained, feces soiled mattress.

A vegetable couldn't do this. Just knock it off.

[Anonymous]

Do we really think Biden is stepping down? Those leaks seemed designed to pressure Biden and his team to throw in the towel, but if Biden just sits tight, the threats will appear empty by this time next week.

Biden may be a down-ticket drag, but I doubt donors would stop funding him and let Republicans sweep the House and Senate.

The Democrats have three choices: 1) threaten, 2) "reward", and 3) ride with Joe.

They're trying 1 so they don't have to do 3. The problem is that Joe and his family have nothing after the White House. Jill isn't going to be invited to cool parties and Hunter, well, he'll do whatever he does. Democrats need to find a good landing place for Jill that will be better than the small chance she remains in the White House after the November election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:every D who is saying Biden is fine cognitively is like your friends who insisted it wasnt OJ that killed those two people and who celebrated the not guilty verdict. Everyone who can and hear knows that man is incapable of doing 4 more years and maybe not even 4 more months.

When Joe yelled "lying dog-faced pony soldier" at the rando years ago, I knew he had early dementia. That word salad was telling. It's fine other people aren't perceptive, but people who thought he was fine before the debate should do some soul searching about how they missed something so obvious to people like me years earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:every D who is saying Biden is fine cognitively is like your friends who insisted it wasnt OJ that killed those two people and who celebrated the not guilty verdict. Everyone who can and hear knows that man is incapable of doing 4 more years and maybe not even 4 more months.

When Joe yelled "lying dog-faced pony soldier" at the rando years ago, I knew he had early dementia. That word salad was telling. It's fine other people aren't perceptive, but people who thought he was fine before the debate should do some soul searching about how they missed something so obvious to people like me years earlier.

TBH, I thought that was an amazing insult he hurled at that rando. I still laugh when I read it. It makes me like Joe even more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?

It is a dilemma.

It's only a dilemma when there's a good solution available. And there isn't one here. Kamala Harris is not Michelle Obama. She is not a woman of color that the vast majority of the country respects and likes. Biden said he'd only select a woman of color as VP in 2020. She has always been the DEI candidate, and has done absolutely nothing over the past four years to distinguish herself from that albatross.

If the elite of the Democratic Party are going to replace the President, winnability should be the only metric. The DEI candidate that is "owed" the position is not going to fly in 2024. She will lose even worse than Biden. And yet, if the Democratic elite pass over the woman of color for some white candidate, there will be civil war within the Democratic Party and they are still going to lose.

So it's not a dilemma. There is no solution this year. Biden and his allies destroyed the Democratic Party. A new generation will have to pick up the pieces in 2028.

….or, hear me out, Dems quit their bedwetting party and rally behind their sitting President. You can already see the circular firing squad preparing for the open floor convention.

Biden has done nothing to rally his party behind him, and that’s his whole job. His debate performance was truly terrifying and before that he spent the spring/summer losing the youth and Muslim vote in Michigan.

I will vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee, because I have a daughter, but “democrats should rally” is a disrespectful point which undermines the deep dissatisfaction many felt even before the debates.

+1 Democrats (including myself here and I love Biden) have been frustrated for a year as the economy has continued improving, jobs including manufacturing jobs have been increasing, wages are up, crime has been falling and Trump is scaring the bejesus out of everyone BUT none of those messages have been getting through. And Biden could have fixed the debate debacle if he called into the morning shows the next day and scheduled a press conference and/or a live interview for the following evening. The candidate performed terribly at the debate but it was the candidate and the campaign that reacted slowly and lazily to fix the reaction to the debate. That showed everyone who was concerned about the messages not getting out exactly why they weren’t.

? Huh? That was the whole point of the “big boy conference” - to reset and show his strength. But it miserably failed.

The Stephanopoulous interview was more than a week after the debate. The press conference was IIRC another week after that. That let the incompetent debate talk drag on and on and left people like me wondering why he didn’t/couldn’t react immediately to quell it. And yes there was one big gaffe at the beginning but other than that (I know, Mrs. Lincoln at the play and all) it was fine. But if he was willing and/or capable, he could have scheduled those things much sooner. Any network would have jumped at the chance to do a town hall, for example.

DP. I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that you wish Biden were 20 years younger and quick-thinking, to act quickly and decisively after a bad debate? Are you saying that you don't believe that he is suffering from something may not be dementia but looks very much like it? Are you saying he should stay on another 4 years? Or that he shouldn't?

I do not think he has dementia. While I think he has been a great president, he’s in a defensive crouch and resents anyone suggesting that he’s not the best presidential candidate, which is a different job. There had to be people telling him (and if there weren’t there should have been) that he needed to get back up on the horse immediately after the debate to prove it was just a bad night. Call into Morning Joe the next day! Schedule a press conference that afternoon! Hell, if he had just come out during the debate first thing and said “I have a cold but that’s not going to keep me from telling America what I plan to do” or something like that, how much better would it have been? And yes, of course I wish he were 20 years younger but that’s not happening. I’m not sure he would have been picked for VP if he were 20 years younger.

I feel the same way. Biden is old, he's slower and arthritic, but he does not have Parkinsons as people keep claiming. He does not have the tremors or the small, cramped handwriting or any of the other early signs of Parkinsons, none whatsoever. People are trying to railroad him with false diagnoses that he does not meet the criteria for. Sure I wish he were younger and more spry, but the constant lying and railroading that Dems are doing is becoming frustrating. And why are they in such a hurry to remove him, when they don't even have a coherent slate to replace him with? Where is there any poll showing "Harris as Pres and X as VP vs Trump" or "Y as Pres and Harris as VP vs Trump" or "A and Z vs Trump?" Dems are completely incoherent with this whole strategy.

Meanwhile I keep thinking back to Biden's recent NATO press conference, where for an hour he gave lengthy, very detailed, thoughtful, informed and nuanced answers to difficult policy questions, unscripted, and without a teleprompter. Trump would not be able to do that. Not at all. Trump doesn't read the briefings, he doesn't know the material, he would just ramble and give the same old vague and hyperbolic comments about how things will be "tremendous" and like people "have never seen before" and yadda yadda yadda - no finer details, all based on hyperbole and with only a thin grasp if any at all of the subject matter. And NOBODY in the media wants to talk about that.

Thank you. These are my feelings exactly. I hope Biden gets some rest and lets these people work themselves up in a tizzy in the media. Then comes back refreshed and drops a bucket of cold water on this entire plan to railroad him out-of-office and have party elites ignore the will of the voters.

He was fantastic in his NATO news conference. Anyone thinking Trump could do that is nuts.

I agree - his handle on certain issues is impressive - as it should be as a lifelong politician. But his wife and close aides have covered up his failing mental capacity - it is no doubt much worse than what the public has seen given the Obama and heck, even Clooney urging to drop out. I don't trust Biden because of the pure selfishness he has exhibited by not taking the opportunity to gracefully back out and give the Dems wiggle room to regroup. Selfish. Jill loves the power and perks. Biden should not have committed to a DEI pick - it should have been the best woman/man for the VP job. The consequences of both these poor, self absorbed choices are directly leading to another 4 years of crazy in the WH.

People like you keep saying over and over "failing mental capacity" yet he does not meet the criteria for early Parkinsons, he is sharper than Trump on issues, unlike Trump he isn't hampered and constrained by a 5th grade vocabulary (compare video of Trump talking 20 years ao to today, it's night and day), unlike Trump he is far more able to stay focused and complete his thoughts without going off on an incoherent 5 minute ramble about sharks or Hannibal Lecter or some other nonsense, he is far more truthful and fact based, whereas Trump just makes up whatever "alternative facts" he wants to suit him... and when Trump tries to talk policy it all just devolves into his generic, repetetive "tremendous" and "like people have never seen before" handwaving and bullshit because that's his go-to when his brain fails. If you want to talk about failing mental capacity your focus should be on Trump.

+1 there is absolutely ZERO credible proof of Parkinsons or any other debilitating condition. His health records have been consistently released. the Parkinsons thing came from media misinterpreting the neurologist who came to the white house to run tests on Biden and treat other people like joint chiefs, who are located in the White House.

And you think you - or anyone in the public - have access to legitimate information regarding the state of his cognitive abilities and health? If you believe that everything has been disclosed - you are living in denial on how things work - especially at high level political circles. Biden is very old and stubborn and frankly selfish and not super bright. Let Kamala raise the torch and move ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:every D who is saying Biden is fine cognitively is like your friends who insisted it wasnt OJ that killed those two people and who celebrated the not guilty verdict. Everyone who can and hear knows that man is incapable of doing 4 more years and maybe not even 4 more months.

When Joe yelled "lying dog-faced pony soldier" at the rando years ago, I knew he had early dementia. That word salad was telling. It's fine other people aren't perceptive, but people who thought he was fine before the debate should do some soul searching about how they missed something so obvious to people like me years earlier.

TBH, I thought that was an amazing insult he hurled at that rando. I still laugh when I read it. It makes me like Joe even more.

Absolutely, and if it had been his normal behavior, I would never have noticed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm saying this but it's now absolutely true:

Joe Biden is going to run a credible anti-elite campaign

Seriously. Trump has all the tech billionaires and media billionaires behind him.

Wait, you think the tech billionaires who love his tax cuts for the rich and deregulation of businesses aren’t elite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:every D who is saying Biden is fine cognitively is like your friends who insisted it wasnt OJ that killed those two people and who celebrated the not guilty verdict. Everyone who can and hear knows that man is incapable of doing 4 more years and maybe not even 4 more months.

When Joe yelled "lying dog-faced pony soldier" at the rando years ago, I knew he had early dementia. That word salad was telling. It's fine other people aren't perceptive, but people who thought he was fine before the debate should do some soul searching about how they missed something so obvious to people like me years earlier.

TBH, I thought that was an amazing insult he hurled at that rando. I still laugh when I read it. It makes me like Joe even more.

Absolutely, and if it had been his normal behavior, I would never have noticed.

Rando? American voter, you mean.

Haha Joe insults Americans who ask him questions, he’s democracy’s savior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so exhausted by this news cycle. Biden seems to be digging in inexplicably. Just step down man and take a nice vacation! I can't take this anymore.

Why shouldn't Trump do this. He's just as old and delusional and really likes to golf and winter in Florida! He's the ideal retirement candidate.

Stop whatabouting. Just stop.
Trump is no spring chicken but Biden has crossed that line from old to “too old”. He seems feeble and weak. He seems confused.

Trump surviving the assasination attempt has catapulted him to look “strong”. Biden cant compete with that. He can barely walk up steps.

I hate trump with every fiber of my being but Biden has to acknowledge he is winning zero independents with this perception and losing dems who are not enthusiastic and will stay home. NJ is in play for Gods sake. NJ!!

DP... No. We will NOT stop. Any criticism you want to level at Biden over his age, his health, his decline, his fitness deserves and demands the exact same questions and scrutiny leveled at Trump. That's not "whataboutism" - you need to stop being a hypocrite peddling dishonest double standards.