Protests on college campuses

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia says FAFO. The following was told to students who refuse to leave the encampment by 2pm today.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/29/1247761719/campus-protests-arrests-suspensions

“You are not permitted to complete the Spring 2024 semester, including participate in classes or exams in-person or remotely or otherwise submit assignments or engage in any activities affiliated with Columbia University," the notice reads. "You may lose the semester. If you are scheduled to graduate, you are no longer eligible."

What a relief this must be for these students. They don't have to associate or be associated with these horrible universities anymore.

It seems like a win-win-win for the student protesters. They got their message out, won't have their resumes sullied, and got valuable practice camping out in makeshift housing.

Won’t have their resumes sullied? How will they get a job with no college degree. Good luck transferring anywhere decent. Good luck applying to grad school. Idiots.

Eh. They could transfer to another school or be re-admitted to Columbia. This will pass pretty soon and they can claim temporary zeitgeist as an excuse.

Maybe. I don’t think others schools will want to touch them. And either way they lose the cost of an entire semester.

The protesters made demands. The university made demands. Each can respond how they wish.

Exactly. And other schools and employers can do what they wish with that information. Being a political pawn is not a protected class.

Political pawn? Who’s the political pawn? You’re defending to the death bloodthirsty murderers just because they purport to (but not really) believe the same fairytale as you. Who’s the pawn?

DP. Not sure who you're describing in your colorful language - but yes, these dumb students are mostly pawns.

I think they can probably transfer to another college, at least to a community college, if they decide to go back to being students instead of revolutionaries or whatever they are trying to be right now.

The professors who are blocking the police from entering the area? If I were Columbia, I wouldn't be keen on keeping them on. But I don't know what the school will do with them.

One of these 'protest' leaders is a child of a State Department employee.

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Why make demands of a university to divest w/a country whose polices you don't agree with? If you don't support your private university's investments go someplace else. Just like if you don't agree with the values of your company, work someplace else. These protests are hollow and meaningless and while some of these people may legitimately be concerned about the welfare of Gaza and seeking a peaceful solution to this conflict, these encampments seem to be toxic soup of hatred, anti-Semitism and some sort of glorification of terrorism. So pointless--where were these people when Syria was raining acid down on its people, or when Russia was invading Ukraine, or insert any other conflict going on in the world?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

You conveniently leave out why those deals were rejected lol. Bc they were not in good faith and offered crumbs.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Where is your polling to show most of the US is fine with that? I’ll wait.

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GWU.....shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/29/politics/us-determines-5-israeli-security-units-committed-human-rights-violations-before-outbreak-of-gaza-war/index.html

I could have sworn that the entire universe came into being on 10/7 based on the rhetoric here since the pro-Israel camp seems to think 10/7 set off this conflict. BUT APPARENTLY even Israel’s only friend is acknowledging its human rights violations and war crimes prior to 10/7. Not nearly comprehensive enough of an indictment, of course, but sufficient to choke the losers here who continue to prosecute their case for racism, genocide, and pure evil by falsely claiming that Israel was the embodiment of a peaceful baby prior to 10/7.

Looking forward to the spin class incoming.

For sure. The human rights abuses Israel was committing for decades before October 7th are so horrific and vile. There is an actual website that instructs pro Israel people not to engage with people about anything prior to October 7th because they will not win on that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

You conveniently leave out why those deals were rejected lol. Bc they were not in good faith and offered crumbs.

DP. That's sort of how negotiations start - both sides pick an extreme and then they meet somewhere.

Anyway, you can admit that if Palestine had taken an earlier imperfect deal, they would be in a better place today than they are now. If they wanted peace and happy people.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

Those of you who make arguments about rejected peace deals conveniently ignore the fact that they have their land and homes STOLEN from them, and you expect them to just take whatever scraps you offer them.

You came in, took their homes, stole their land, killed their people, fenced them into a ghetto, then act surprised they hate you and won't allow you to solidify your hold over their stolen land.

It's maddening that people like you can make the arguments you make with a straight face, and tell us to read a history book.

If someone violently took your home from you and killed your neighbors, would you raise your kids to cooperate with your oppressor, or would you raise them to fight like hell?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

Those of you who make arguments about rejected peace deals conveniently ignore the fact that they have their land and homes STOLEN from them, and you expect them to just take whatever scraps you offer them.

You came in, took their homes, stole their land, killed their people, fenced them into a ghetto, then act surprised they hate you and won't allow you to solidify your hold over their stolen land.

It's maddening that people like you can make the arguments you make with a straight face, and tell us to read a history book.

If someone violently took your home from you and killed your neighbors, would you raise your kids to cooperate with your oppressor, or would you raise them to fight like hell?

This is exactly what Hamas did. And, Israel is fighting like hell. For its existence.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

You conveniently leave out why those deals were rejected lol. Bc they were not in good faith and offered crumbs.

DP. That's sort of how negotiations start - both sides pick an extreme and then they meet somewhere.

Anyway, you can admit that if Palestine had taken an earlier imperfect deal, they would be in a better place today than they are now. If they wanted peace and happy people.

And sometimes the premise of the discussion is so outright ridiculous, there are no good faith negotiations to be had.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

You conveniently leave out why those deals were rejected lol. Bc they were not in good faith and offered crumbs.

DP. That's sort of how negotiations start - both sides pick an extreme and then they meet somewhere.

Anyway, you can admit that if Palestine had taken an earlier imperfect deal, they would be in a better place today than they are now. If they wanted peace and happy people.

I don't agree with that at all- everyone has always expected for the Palestinians to take whatever meager crumbs are thrown at them, the pattern of constant dehumanization, and that we should just be happy with that. These are abuse/abuser dynamics, that you are talking about. Why don't you accept that he just grabs your wrists and calls you a b^^^- it's way better than him punching you in the face?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is hope that these protesters will get an education.......

Yikes. I hope they aren’t screening the 40 baked babies, clothesline babies, babies cut from the womb, teenage sister rape, nails in pelvises, mass rape, Gaza hospital nurse, and all of the other fictional chronicles from the past seven months on that screen, too! This fugazi phone call manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein’s minions is terrifying enough!

Why do you hope that?

Do you think it’s ethical that pro-Israel propagandists produced a video that contains nothing more than a factional re-enactment of what they purport would be a call from a terrorist to their parents, and intended to deceive consumers if that video into believing that they actually intercepted and recorded that call - that it was an authentic recording?

You think that’s ethical? I think the kind of people who do that should be placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea.

You continue to allege that posters are calling for the deaths, execution, etc. of the protesters...yet you're the one doing so, insulting, name calling, etc.

1. I haven’t called for the death of anyone. That’s not my style anyway.

2. I’ve seen replies directly to a poster who replied “100%” when they were specifically asked to confirm that they were calling for the death of not just the protesters doing abhorrent things, but anyone protesting Israeli conduct.

DP. Yes, presumably your "placed on an ice floe and shoved out to sea" wish was rhetorical. As are all the other things that protestors and counter-protestors are saying.

Like the N word and “Kill all Gaza babies”?

Uh, yeah. All the words of US college protestors about the Middle East are rhetorical. If they were in the ME, maybe their words might have a chance of becoming real. But not here.

Where I’m from, calling for a ceasefire on humanitarian grounds and the divestment of a country that commits war crimes recognized by 193 of the world’s 195 nations is quite a bit different than using the N word and calling for the mass murder of children.

Apparently, we don’t swim in the same pond. I am comfortable supporting a ceasefire and the calls for divestment, today and always. But how long have you been an open racist supportive of the mass murder of innocent, defenseless children?

Are you the ice floe poster?

Just asking.

And ftr, the divestment stuff (same as BDS? different?) is idiotic.

Why do you think BDS idiotic? My understanding is that it was a very effective strategy in pressuring South Africa to end apartheid.

Because comparing South African apartheid with Israel is idiotic. It's not on the same level at all, which is why these protestors are being told to go home and most of the US is fine with that.

Bishop Tutu, someone who knew a thing or two about Apartheid, thought the comparison was very apt. Israel rules over the majority Arab population of Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Israel proper in much the same manner that white South Africans ruled over the majority black population. Right down to creating bantustans.

It's funny how those of you who claim apartheid seem to forget about the bit of history where Israel attempted to negotiate land and peace deals with the Palestinians and those were rejected--repeatedly. Countries who practice apartheid don't typically offer land to those they're supposedly ruling over. Read a history book or maybe google the information (or maybe you don't want to do that since google does a lot of business with Israel)

Those of you who make arguments about rejected peace deals conveniently ignore the fact that they have their land and homes STOLEN from them, and you expect them to just take whatever scraps you offer them.

You came in, took their homes, stole their land, killed their people, fenced them into a ghetto, then act surprised they hate you and won't allow you to solidify your hold over their stolen land.

It's maddening that people like you can make the arguments you make with a straight face, and tell us to read a history book.

If someone violently took your home from you and killed your neighbors, would you raise your kids to cooperate with your oppressor, or would you raise them to fight like hell?

This is exactly what Hamas did. And, Israel is fighting like hell. For its existence.

Nah. Israel has been waiting for the perfect time to annihilate the Palestinina people and turn Gaza into a beach resort. They've said it themselves. Stop the gaslighting.