SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor

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Anonymous wrote:Heaven forbid Asians set a high bar for standards. Now all races will have to improve themselves to get in..

This is a massive win for the country, our future science, our future engineering, and our future economic development. The best of the best will be moving forward in our best colleges and jobs based on their merits reer than pie in the sky feels and other flimsy subjective metrics. This allows us to once again compete with China.

We were at serious risk of mental decline and turning the country into Idiocracy.

Your naivety made me chuckle.

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I'm one of those Democrats who is happy to see this ruling. I'd rather see affirmative action on the basis of socioeconomic status rather than race. It would probably get you to the same conclusion rather than giving preferential treatment to UMC and UC POCs.

It doesn't get you there. California has already proven that. As a black woman, I am devasted. How do you eliminate affirmative action when merit is not real. You have many black and latino students graduated from substandard schools and white kids going to high school with golf courses. SAT scores are based on income, not intelligence.

We haven't even come to terms with race in this country.

And you apparently haven't come to terms with class. There are a TON of poor and lower income whites in this country. You really need to get out more.

Umm, are they poor because they are white??

Areas like Appalachia have White cycles of poverty. There are plenty of Black people who have taken advantage of the opportunities out there that are trying to right the wrongs over the years. Let’s be honest though. Not enough Black Americans are putting education as their children’s priorities. It’s not all about terrible schools. It’s about getting involved in your child’s education, finding activities so they aren’t hanging around. These are the kids who do well, there just aren’t enough of them.

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Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

So you are griping about this magical, unicorn, fairytale burden you must endure. I bet you are seething that California's African American residents are going to get some reparations.

Why would African Americans in California get reparations when CA wasn't even a slave state and the west was built by the Chinese?

I don't even know what you mean by "slave state" but there were black slaves in CA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heaven forbid Asians set a high bar for standards. Now all races will have to improve themselves to get in..

This is a massive win for the country, our future science, our future engineering, and our future economic development. The best of the best will be moving forward in our best colleges and jobs based on their merits reer than pie in the sky feels and other flimsy subjective metrics. This allows us to once again compete with China.

We were at serious risk of mental decline and turning the country into Idiocracy.

If Asians are so mentally superior to all other races, why not stay in their own countries and lift those countries up? Why come here? Clearly, the rest of us are holding Asian Americans back.

They want to go to elite establishment schools so they can have elite establishment status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrat Woodward Wilson was proud that no black person gained admission to Princeton while he was in control. Up until today the racist democrats believed the same for Asians.

Princeton has lots and lots of Asian students, Woodrow.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind if personality can a child have when they were pushed to do worksheets and study for tests since very early age?

When they didn’t have free time, play time, unstructured time?

When they were not given any space to develop their own interests and passions, but were told by their parents that it was decided for them they must become a doctor/engineer/lawyer?

This is a recipe for a very plain personality.

Hahahahaha.

Omg. My kids do some worksheets and some homework and sports and have play dates and sleep and watch tv and spend time with friends and family.

Top of their classes. Excellent time management skills.

If you think they’re just doing worksheets all day long: you don’t know any Asians.

I know Asians. They isolate themselves from White kids and they are in math school after a full day of school and Mandarin class on weekends. Did you really think they are at the top of the class because Asians are naturally superior? You made their days look like any other student but it’s not true. The culture is different.

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Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

But it isn’t inflicting damage on anyone. All the schools have all increased enrollment. There are more students of every category than ever before except for white males, but that is because white females have taken the slots they deserved. Admissions are more meritocratic than ever. The Conservative Justices are clueless and detached from reality.

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Anonymous wrote:No more fake white “Latinos” whose European ancestors moved to South America getting admissions preferences over other similarly white students.

"Latino" or "Hispanic" isn't even a race. Hispanics can be of any race.

Then why would the white ones be entitled to affirmative action over other white people?

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Anonymous wrote:What kind if personality can a child have when they were pushed to do worksheets and study for tests since very early age?

When they didn’t have free time, play time, unstructured time?

When they were not given any space to develop their own interests and passions, but were told by their parents that it was decided for them they must become a doctor/engineer/lawyer?

This is a recipe for a very plain personality.

Hahahahaha.

Omg. My kids do some worksheets and some homework and sports and have play dates and sleep and watch tv and spend time with friends and family.

Top of their classes. Excellent time management skills.

If you think they’re just doing worksheets all day long: you don’t know any Asians.

I know Asians. They isolate themselves from White kids and they are in math school after a full day of school and Mandarin class on weekends. Did you really think they are at the top of the class because Asians are naturally superior? You made their days look like any other student but it’s not true. The culture is different.

You clearly live, work and play in an UMC area. Not all Asians can afford what you said. Do they tend to value an education? Good behavior? Strong employment? Yes. They're kids work hard. They are mostly very bright, whether or not they can pay for extras. It seems difficult for you to accept their success in academic, math, science, art and music areas over athletics.

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Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

But it isn’t inflicting damage on anyone. All the schools have all increased enrollment. There are more students of every category than ever before except for white males, but that is because white females have taken the slots they deserved. Admissions are more meritocratic than ever. The Conservative Justices are clueless and detached from reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown Jackson’s dissenting opinion is excellent!

She’s a terrible writer

Both her, sotamayor and acb shouldn’t be 100 miles near scotus

Kagan is the only female justice currently on the bench that is there on merit

[Anonymous]

Oh well. They still aren't going to let Asians take over Harvard. They're about to find out real quick.

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Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

But it isn’t inflicting damage on anyone. All the schools have all increased enrollment. There are more students of every category than ever before except for white males, but that is because white females have taken the slots they deserved. Admissions are more meritocratic than ever. The Conservative Justices are clueless and detached from reality.

I mean that women are getting the slots that women should have had all along when they were discriminated against. That is the reason white male admissions are down. They used to be 100%. Princeton increased enrollment to admit women then increased enrollment again as they remedied other discriminatory practices and effects.

[Anonymous]

The SC is full of sh!t. If they were really about accepting students into universities based solely on merit, then they would be for a blind application where no name, gender, race, ethnicity, and address are known. But they won’t because they know that process would heavily favor Asian applicants.

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There was no way Harvard was going to let the university be majority Asian so they made up random barriers like extracurricular activities to block more Asians from being accepted. Having good grades wasn’t enough.

Instead of admitting that Ivy Leagues simply do not want more Asians (for whatever reason). Some Asians started blaming black and latino people for “taking their spot”.