SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

how is it a burden to try to ensure a diversity in the classroom that reflect the diversity in the country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

how is it a burden to try to ensure a diversity in the classroom that reflect the diversity in the country?

Diversity in thought is #1.

Diversity based on skin is a far distant 2nd.

Asians are perfectly capable of having radically different thoughts from each other. Just put students from China in the same room as students from Taiwan, for example. That's a FAR more enlightening and interesting discussion than a room filled with Americans no matter what race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heaven forbid Asians set a high bar for standards. Now all races will have to improve themselves to get in..

This is a massive win for the country, our future science, our future engineering, and our future economic development. The best of the best will be moving forward in our best colleges and jobs based on their merits reer than pie in the sky feels and other flimsy subjective metrics. This allows us to once again compete with China.

We were at serious risk of mental decline and turning the country into Idiocracy.

If Asians are so mentally superior to all other races, why not stay in their own countries and lift those countries up? Why come here? Clearly, the rest of us are holding Asian Americans back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brown Jackson’s dissenting opinion is excellent!

I didn’t find it particularly compelling and it’s disingenuous in places. The majority in Grutter was clearly troubled by and uneasy with state sanctioned discrimination in the form of affirmative action. That’s where the famous “25-year” timeline comes from (and BK’s obsession with it is weird). Both KBJ and SM treat Grutter as full throated endorsement of the legality of affirmative action and I think it really undermines their dissent.

I appreciate KBJ’s summary of historic, systematic discrimination faced by Blacks and it is 100% accurate but … now what? What she suggests but leaves unsaid because it would completely crush her position is that the desire to remedy past discrimination justifies present day discrimination. Perhaps people feel that way, but that’s a question for the political sphere and there simply isn’t the political support for that position and it would almost certainly require constitutional amendment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heaven forbid Asians set a high bar for standards. Now all races will have to improve themselves to get in..

This is a massive win for the country, our future science, our future engineering, and our future economic development. The best of the best will be moving forward in our best colleges and jobs based on their merits reer than pie in the sky feels and other flimsy subjective metrics. This allows us to once again compete with China.

We were at serious risk of mental decline and turning the country into Idiocracy.

If Asians are so mentally superior to all other races, why not stay in their own countries and lift those countries up? Why come here? Clearly, the rest of us are holding Asian Americans back.

Well obviously because America is #1, and they want to join the winning team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

So you are griping about this magical, unicorn, fairytale burden you must endure. I bet you are seething that California's African American residents are going to get some reparations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yay! Thanks for not voting for HRC in 2016 when you knew SCOTUS was on the line, idiots.

They might to eliminate legacies and others to make room for people they actually want attending their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

how is it a burden to try to ensure a diversity in the classroom that reflect the diversity in the country?

Picking winners and losers on skin color vs. merit and performance?

If you have to ask, you're too brainwashed to continue debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heaven forbid Asians set a high bar for standards. Now all races will have to improve themselves to get in..

This is a massive win for the country, our future science, our future engineering, and our future economic development. The best of the best will be moving forward in our best colleges and jobs based on their merits reer than pie in the sky feels and other flimsy subjective metrics. This allows us to once again compete with China.

We were at serious risk of mental decline and turning the country into Idiocracy.

If Asians are so mentally superior to all other races, why not stay in their own countries and lift those countries up? Why come here? Clearly, the rest of us are holding Asian Americans back.

Wow, what a racist you are. Assuming Asians aren't even Americans!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No more fake white “Latinos” whose European ancestors moved to South America getting admissions preferences over other similarly white students.

"Latino" or "Hispanic" isn't even a race. Hispanics can be of any race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

So you are griping about this magical, unicorn, fairytale burden you must endure. I bet you are seething that California's African American residents are going to get some reparations.

Come on. If it doesn’t burden one group how could it possibly benefit another? If a benefit/burden didn’t exist, neither side would care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:5 of the 6 Supreme Court justices who struck down Affirmative Action in Harvard & UNC admissions were appointed by presidents the majority of US voters voted against.

And the 6th SCOTUS was appointed by a POTUS who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

So?

A super majority of Americans believe race-based admissions is wrong.
And, this little stat is far more pertinent than yours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yay! Thanks for not voting for HRC in 2016 when you knew SCOTUS was on the line, idiots.

They might to eliminate legacies and others to make room for people they actually want attending their school.

The DNC forced Hillary down everyone's throats as their candidate over Bernie.

Did you forget that little undemocratic fact?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should have been a time limit to affirmative action. Another one of Johnson’s mistakes

If you want to play that game, then it should have been equal to the number of years the humans who were enslaved were subject to their fate going through the signing of the Civil Rights Act, so give it another 300 years and then call it even.

Sure bud, but try convincing the majority of us to do that. You can't and we won't. History is full of terrible things done to lots of people. But you're not going to convince those of us who are here today that we should make great sacrifices to correct those historical wrongs - wrongs that many of our ancestors didn't perpetuate. I mean, while you're at it, why not just give Manhattan (and perhaps most of the Eastern seaboard) back to the Native Americans?

What great sacrifices are you being asked to make to correct historical wrongs?

None right now. But that's the point. There shouldn't be any. It's trying to correct past wrongs but inflicting burdens upon the current generation.

So you are griping about this magical, unicorn, fairytale burden you must endure. I bet you are seething that California's African American residents are going to get some reparations.

Why would African Americans in California get reparations when CA wasn't even a slave state and the west was built by the Chinese?