Alec Baldwin now charged with involuntary manslaughter by New Mexico authorities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Baldwin pulled the trigger and shot the person when someone else had loaded it with a real bullet, not a blank, then is he at fault or is the bullet-loader at fault?

It's an easy question, morally, ethically, and legally. Your first instinct, anyone and everyone's first instinct, is the right one here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was there a bullet in the gun? Can someone summarize for me?

Because shenanigans. Because the armorer, the person who is responsible for the prop guns (which are real guns that are being used as props, they aren't fake guns), was playing around with the gun earlier and shooting live bullets in them. And then "somehow" a live bullet was in the gun during the filming of the scene. The "somehow" seems to be a fatal combination of youth, inexperience, incompetence, and alcohol.

[Anonymous]

The process is the punishment. Alec may never see the inside of a cell, but he's not a free man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was there a bullet in the gun? Can someone summarize for me?

Because shenanigans. Because the armorer, the person who is responsible for the prop guns (which are real guns that are being used as props, they aren't fake guns), was playing around with the gun earlier and shooting live bullets in them. And then "somehow" a live bullet was in the gun during the filming of the scene. The "somehow" seems to be a fatal combination of youth, inexperience, incompetence, and alcohol.

yup she obviously didn't check it and was most likely inhibited. She was drinking/smoking not just the night before the shooting but the day of as well. Her dad is Thell Reed, whose been in the business for years. She wasn't ready for that position

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was there a bullet in the gun? Can someone summarize for me?

Because shenanigans. Because the armorer, the person who is responsible for the prop guns (which are real guns that are being used as props, they aren't fake guns), was playing around with the gun earlier and shooting live bullets in them. And then "somehow" a live bullet was in the gun during the filming of the scene. The "somehow" seems to be a fatal combination of youth, inexperience, incompetence, and alcohol.

yup she obviously didn't check it and was most likely inhibited. She was drinking/smoking not just the night before the shooting but the day of as well. Her dad is Thell Reed, whose been in the business for years. She wasn't ready for that position

And she is pleading not guilty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The process is the punishment. Alec may never see the inside of a cell, but he's not a free man.

Agree with this. His life has been hell and I am sure he didn’t have any clue there was a bullet in a stunt gun. Unfortunately his behavior just doesn’t endear him to people. He is always losing his temper with reporters, with random people and he goes off on politics way too much. I think if this happened with other actors people would feel bad for him. I think the whole thing was horrible but do not think he belongs in jail. He should have to pay but jail is not the right place for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regardless, the worst punishment for Alec is knowing deep down in his core that he killed a young woman.

Unfortunately we all saw how quickly he switched to distancing and denying. This will not sit with him. He has already moved on from it, the ongoing charges were more of a bother to him than anything, I think.

I feel bad for Hutchins' husband and son.

We all do. For him...I agree he consciously cannot acknowledge the truth, that he shot and killed her and he will continue to defend internally and build a complex web of rationalizations to keep the boogeyman away. But down the line...I fear it will haunt him and if faced with any possible trigger, I can sadly see him turning on himself on a dark night. He's full of contempt and that puts him at risk of eventually turning on himself if variables like alcohol or abandonment are in play. Like Bourdain. Similar character types.

[Anonymous]

I don't think old age is going to be kind to alec baldwin. And I fear his story may end badly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Baldwin pulled the trigger and shot the person when someone else had loaded it with a real bullet, not a blank, then is he at fault or is the bullet-loader at fault?

It is 100% the responsibility of the person holding a gun to make sure it is not loaded, and if it is loaded, handled in a safe manor. That’s not debatable. Are others partly responsible? Sure. That does not change the responsibility of the person that pulled the trigger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regardless, the worst punishment for Alec is knowing deep down in his core that he killed a young woman.

Unfortunately we all saw how quickly he switched to distancing and denying. This will not sit with him. He has already moved on from it, the ongoing charges were more of a bother to him than anything, I think.

I feel bad for Hutchins' husband and son.

We all do. For him...I agree he consciously cannot acknowledge the truth, that he shot and killed her and he will continue to defend internally and build a complex web of rationalizations to keep the boogeyman away. But down the line...I fear it will haunt him and if faced with any possible trigger, I can sadly see him turning on himself on a dark night. He's full of contempt and that puts him at risk of eventually turning on himself if variables like alcohol or abandonment are in play. Like Bourdain. Similar character types.

Disagree entirely. He did not quickly switch from distancing and denying - but he has been trying to live with the guilt and has correctly stated that her death was not his fault. It isn't.

Nor has he lost support - PP's who blame him would blame him anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Baldwin pulled the trigger and shot the person when someone else had loaded it with a real bullet, not a blank, then is he at fault or is the bullet-loader at fault?

It is 100% the responsibility of the person holding a gun to make sure it is not loaded, and if it is loaded, handled in a safe manor. That’s not debatable. Are others partly responsible? Sure. That does not change the responsibility of the person that pulled the trigger.

You are wrong both morally and legally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regardless, the worst punishment for Alec is knowing deep down in his core that he killed a young woman.

Unfortunately we all saw how quickly he switched to distancing and denying. This will not sit with him. He has already moved on from it, the ongoing charges were more of a bother to him than anything, I think.

I feel bad for Hutchins' husband and son.

We all do. For him...I agree he consciously cannot acknowledge the truth, that he shot and killed her and he will continue to defend internally and build a complex web of rationalizations to keep the boogeyman away. But down the line...I fear it will haunt him and if faced with any possible trigger, I can sadly see him turning on himself on a dark night. He's full of contempt and that puts him at risk of eventually turning on himself if variables like alcohol or abandonment are in play. Like Bourdain. Similar character types.

Disagree entirely. He did not quickly switch from distancing and denying - but he has been trying to live with the guilt and has correctly stated that her death was not his fault. It isn't.

Nor has he lost support - PP's who blame him would blame him anyway.

You can disagree obviously. A jury will decide if he was at fault. Not sure why you feel so confident simply declaring it's not his fault nor why you are saying he has not lost support. Those are your opinions. Even a portion of the comments here, a small microcosm of the public, suggest individuals obviously hold him accountable. The victim's husband certainly does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Baldwin pulled the trigger and shot the person when someone else had loaded it with a real bullet, not a blank, then is he at fault or is the bullet-loader at fault?

It is 100% the responsibility of the person holding a gun to make sure it is not loaded, and if it is loaded, handled in a safe manor. That’s not debatable. Are others partly responsible? Sure. That does not change the responsibility of the person that pulled the trigger.

You are wrong both morally and legally.

If I hand you a gun and say it’s not loaded, would you put it to your head and pull the trigger without checking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Baldwin pulled the trigger and shot the person when someone else had loaded it with a real bullet, not a blank, then is he at fault or is the bullet-loader at fault?

It is 100% the responsibility of the person holding a gun to make sure it is not loaded, and if it is loaded, handled in a safe manor. That’s not debatable. Are others partly responsible? Sure. That does not change the responsibility of the person that pulled the trigger.

You are wrong both morally and legally.

If I hand you a gun and say it’s not loaded, would you put it to your head and pull the trigger without checking?

The director should have checked the gun first before instructing Baldwin to proceed with the scene.

[Anonymous]

I think Baldwin is an ass but I think this is a really bad precedent for anyone that works with equipment that might be dangerous. If the person at your place of employment who is responsible for safety tells you something is safe to use in the way you are supposed to use it for work, and it turns out that they are incompetent and you kill someone because the item was not in fact safe….should you go to jail? No. Acting is unusual in that a gun is a tool of the trade but many people work with equipment that can be fatal if not properly maintained or inspected. If he was a miner and the explosives went off wrong because someone else loaded it wrong, we would t blame him—we’d blame the person responsible for loading the explosives.

He’s a jerk and he does himself no favors with his matyr act but I don’t think he’s criminally liable here.