Alec Baldwin now charged with involuntary manslaughter by New Mexico authorities

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dick Cheney shot someone. I never want to hear that "the liberals" get off easy.

For the record, I don't have any love for either Baldwin or Cheney.

Dick Cheney didn't kill anyone.

Only because he was a bad shot.

ok, but killing someone is different than shooting someone.

Uh what? You don’t need to kill someone to get charged. Cheney met the criteria for Deadly Conduct in Texas: https://law.justia.com/codes/texas/2021/penal-code/title-5/chapter-22/section-22-05/

Dick Cheney got off because he was shooting at the largest ranch in the US, which is owned by some of the wealthiest Republican donors. The local cops and DA are Republicans and owned by the ranch families that have dominated that region of TX for over a century.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Total BS. NM just wants to fry a big fish.

Nope. It is the correct decision.

He not only fired the weapon, he was also the producer. Protocols were not followed. People had left the set prior to the shooting because of working conditions.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set

This is the lowest felony he can be charged with when a death is involved. Question is.... will it go to trial or will he plea?

A producer
Not THE producer.
There is a huge difference

The person who puled the trigger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total BS. NM just wants to fry a big fish.

Nope. It is the correct decision.

He not only fired the weapon, he was also the producer. Protocols were not followed. People had left the set prior to the shooting because of working conditions.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set

This is the lowest felony he can be charged with when a death is involved. Question is.... will it go to trial or will he plea?

A producer
Not THE producer.
There is a huge difference

The person who puled the trigger was not THE producer.

FIFY

[Anonymous]

Good. Someone DIED! A child friend mom wife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. Someone DIED! A child friend mom wife.

The sad truth is that 15 Americans die every day in on the job accidents. I do not blame Baldwin at all; he was handed a prop by the armorer and just doing his job (like hundreds of other actors do every year in firearm-related scenes).

The armorer was negligent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t know why it took this long, but it seems like it was the obvious course of action all along. I can only imagine the evidence must be damning, because otherwise they wouldn’t have brought charges.

Will be interesting to watch this all unfold.

This.

He should have been arrested from Day 1.

It was either manslaughter or murder, but it was clear that 1) there was a dead person and 2) Baldwin was the shooter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dick Cheney shot someone. I never want to hear that "the liberals" get off easy.

For the record, I don't have any love for either Baldwin or Cheney.

it was pellets but nice try. Baldwin killed someone and seriously injured another person. He did not check his gun. FWIW I think he is being overcharged but you should know a gun you are handling is armed and not rely on someone else to warn you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. Someone DIED! A child friend mom wife.

The sad truth is that 15 Americans die every day in on the job accidents. I do not blame Baldwin at all; he was handed a prop by the armorer and just doing his job (like hundreds of other actors do every year in firearm-related scenes).

The armorer was negligent.

Baldwin as Producer and main Funder of the movie was negligent in either not hiring a better armorer or not letting her do her job with appropriate resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. Someone DIED! A child friend mom wife.

The sad truth is that 15 Americans die every day in on the job accidents. I do not blame Baldwin at all; he was handed a prop by the armorer and just doing his job (like hundreds of other actors do every year in firearm-related scenes).

The armorer was negligent.

One of the first things any fire arms safety class will teach you is that every gun is loaded until you verify that it isn't

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t know why it took this long, but it seems like it was the obvious course of action all along. I can only imagine the evidence must be damning, because otherwise they wouldn’t have brought charges.

Will be interesting to watch this all unfold.

This.

He should have been arrested from Day 1.

It was either manslaughter or murder, but it was clear that 1) there was a dead person and 2) Baldwin was the shooter

No it is more complicated. He is responsible but it is not like he was driving a car drunk and hit someone. He should have been more careful but a jury will take into consideration that he didn’t know the gun was armed. One thing that will not be helpful and I found out later is that you are never supposed to actually point at someone in a shot-editing makes it look real. Apparently he was asked to point for the shot but he should have declined. I do not think putting him in jail is helpful. I am sure he will live with this forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dick Cheney shot someone. I never want to hear that "the liberals" get off easy.

For the record, I don't have any love for either Baldwin or Cheney.

it was pellets but nice try. Baldwin killed someone and seriously injured another person. He did not check his gun. FWIW I think he is being overcharged but you should know a gun you are handling is armed and not rely on someone else to warn you.

Let me fire a shotgun a few dozen yards from your face and then I will say “it’s just pellets.” The guy nearly died due to a pellet that lodged near his heart.

[Anonymous]

It is so wild to me that there exists a situation where someone could shoot and kill someone with a gun and NOT be charged at all with murder or manslaughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dick Cheney shot someone. I never want to hear that "the liberals" get off easy.

For the record, I don't have any love for either Baldwin or Cheney.

it was pellets but nice try. Baldwin killed someone and seriously injured another person. He did not check his gun. FWIW I think he is being overcharged but you should know a gun you are handling is armed and not rely on someone else to warn you.

Let me fire a shotgun a few dozen yards from your face and then I will say “it’s just pellets.” The guy nearly died due to a pellet that lodged near his heart.

Didn’t he specifically not want to press charges?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t know why it took this long, but it seems like it was the obvious course of action all along. I can only imagine the evidence must be damning, because otherwise they wouldn’t have brought charges.

Will be interesting to watch this all unfold.

This.

He should have been arrested from Day 1.

It was either manslaughter or murder, but it was clear that 1) there was a dead person and 2) Baldwin was the shooter

No it is more complicated. He is responsible but it is not like he was driving a car drunk and hit someone. He should have been more careful but a jury will take into consideration that he didn’t know the gun was armed. One thing that will not be helpful and I found out later is that you are never supposed to actually point at someone in a shot-editing makes it look real. Apparently he was asked to point for the shot but he should have declined. I do not think putting him in jail is helpful. I am sure he will live with this forever.

Nobody is saying that he intentionally shot and killed this poor woman, but anyone who denies that negligence was shown is just not being truthful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dick Cheney shot someone. I never want to hear that "the liberals" get off easy.

For the record, I don't have any love for either Baldwin or Cheney.

Dick Cheney didn't kill anyone.

Lol. Dick Cheney did not kill that person. But Dick Cheney killed a multitude of people.