Alec Baldwin now charged with involuntary manslaughter by New Mexico authorities

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Can’t acting schools just have mandatory gun training ?

Assume they decide to go that way. Guess what the first rule you’re taught in any gun training?

The person holding the gun is responsible for it and always assume it’s loaded unless you have checked it yourself.

On a set, it's safer to have experts check the gun rather than the actor - mistakes happen often enough by experts, do you really think having nonexperts doing things with a gun is safer?

Actors are not at a shooting range or the field. They are on a set.

It’s basic gun safety. The person holding the gun is always responsible. Always assume the gun is loaded. Never point a gun at someone else.

Movies must be very mysterious to you. Or maybe you assume that everyone shot in a movie scene actually dies.

Terrifying.

Who do you think should be held accountable for her death?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t know why it took this long, but it seems like it was the obvious course of action all along. I can only imagine the evidence must be damning, because otherwise they wouldn’t have brought charges.

Will be interesting to watch this all unfold.

How stupid. Who loaded the damn gun? Who left loaded?

Who’s driving this BS lawsuit? Some NGO trying this tactic to get to NRA?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t know why it took this long, but it seems like it was the obvious course of action all along. I can only imagine the evidence must be damning, because otherwise they wouldn’t have brought charges.

Will be interesting to watch this all unfold.

No. It’s just politics and money attempt.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was there a bullet in the gun? Can someone summarize for me?

Because shenanigans. Because the armorer, the person who is responsible for the prop guns (which are real guns that are being used as props, they aren't fake guns), was playing around with the gun earlier and shooting live bullets in them. And then "somehow" a live bullet was in the gun during the filming of the scene. The "somehow" seems to be a fatal combination of youth, inexperience, incompetence, and alcohol.

So how is any of this anyone else’s fault but the armorer?

Who was shooting the gun? Who brought ammo on the set? Who knew those things were happening?

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I'm shocked that there aren't layers of protection/caution...at least 3 people should check the gun. And why are real bullets even needed?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that there aren't layers of protection/caution...at least 3 people should check the gun. And why are real bullets even needed?

Well, the safety rules for guns on sets have worked really well. This is the first disaster since Brandon Lee was killed by a prop gun malfunction in 1993. Literally decades of safe use.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that there aren't layers of protection/caution...at least 3 people should check the gun. And why are real bullets even needed?

Well, the safety rules for guns on sets have worked really well. This is the first disaster since Brandon Lee was killed by a prop gun malfunction in 1993. Literally decades of safe use.

Then someone was caeeless and should be held accountable. The person who handed the gun to Alex?

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I think the armorer and Alec should both serve 10 years in prison.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that there aren't layers of protection/caution...at least 3 people should check the gun. And why are real bullets even needed?

Well, the safety rules for guns on sets have worked really well. This is the first disaster since Brandon Lee was killed by a prop gun malfunction in 1993. Literally decades of safe use.

Then someone was caeeless and should be held accountable. The person who handed the gun to Alex?

Fwiw, while Brandon Lee's death was investigated, there were never charges filed. Should someone be held responsible? Maybe. But the person responsible is already known now. Her career will receive consequences of her actions.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that there aren't layers of protection/caution...at least 3 people should check the gun. And why are real bullets even needed?

Well, the safety rules for guns on sets have worked really well. This is the first disaster since Brandon Lee was killed by a prop gun malfunction in 1993. Literally decades of safe use.

Then someone was caeeless and should be held accountable. The person who handed the gun to Alex?

Fwiw, while Brandon Lee's death was investigated, there were never charges filed. Should someone be held responsible? Maybe. But the person responsible is already known now. Her career will receive consequences of her actions.

I think it's disgusting that no one is held accountable for a death.

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Anonymous wrote:Total BS. NM just wants to fry a big fish.

Nope. It is the correct decision.

He not only fired the weapon, he was also the producer. Protocols were not followed. People had left the set prior to the shooting because of working conditions.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/bu...-crew-walked-off-set

This is the lowest felony he can be charged with when a death is involved. Question is.... will it go to trial or will he plea?

A producer
Not THE producer.
There is a huge difference

The person who puled the trigger

He’s an actor doing his job. He didn’t knowingly put a live bullet in the gun for the scene to kill her. I don’t think he should be charged. People get injured and sometimes die doing their jobs every day.

That's why it's INVOLUNTARY manslaughter no?

So if a bus driver gets on the bus to do his route and the brakes weren't fixed properly by the mechanic and he runs someone over as a consequence, is the bus driver guilty of involuntary manslaughter?

Actually yes. If something goes wrong with your vehicle and you kill someone, you are 100% guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Plenty of people have been charged in that exact scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that there aren't layers of protection/caution...at least 3 people should check the gun. And why are real bullets even needed?

Well, the safety rules for guns on sets have worked really well. This is the first disaster since Brandon Lee was killed by a prop gun malfunction in 1993. Literally decades of safe use.

Then someone was caeeless and should be held accountable. The person who handed the gun to Alex?

Fwiw, while Brandon Lee's death was investigated, there were never charges filed. Should someone be held responsible? Maybe. But the person responsible is already known now. Her career will receive consequences of her actions.

I think it's disgusting that no one is held accountable for a death.

Sometimes there are these things in life called accidents.

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Anonymous wrote:Total BS. NM just wants to fry a big fish.

Nope. It is the correct decision.

He not only fired the weapon, he was also the producer. Protocols were not followed. People had left the set prior to the shooting because of working conditions.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/bu...-crew-walked-off-set

This is the lowest felony he can be charged with when a death is involved. Question is.... will it go to trial or will he plea?

A producer
Not THE producer.
There is a huge difference

The person who puled the trigger

He’s an actor doing his job. He didn’t knowingly put a live bullet in the gun for the scene to kill her. I don’t think he should be charged. People get injured and sometimes die doing their jobs every day.

That's why it's INVOLUNTARY manslaughter no?

So if a bus driver gets on the bus to do his route and the brakes weren't fixed properly by the mechanic and he runs someone over as a consequence, is the bus driver guilty of involuntary manslaughter?

Actually yes. If something goes wrong with your vehicle and you kill someone, you are 100% guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Plenty of people have been charged in that exact scenario.

That's not at all true. Not even close.

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Anonymous wrote:Total BS. NM just wants to fry a big fish.

Nope. It is the correct decision.

He not only fired the weapon, he was also the producer. Protocols were not followed. People had left the set prior to the shooting because of working conditions.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/bu...-crew-walked-off-set

This is the lowest felony he can be charged with when a death is involved. Question is.... will it go to trial or will he plea?

A producer
Not THE producer.
There is a huge difference

The person who puled the trigger

He’s an actor doing his job. He didn’t knowingly put a live bullet in the gun for the scene to kill her. I don’t think he should be charged. People get injured and sometimes die doing their jobs every day.

That's why it's INVOLUNTARY manslaughter no?

So if a bus driver gets on the bus to do his route and the brakes weren't fixed properly by the mechanic and he runs someone over as a consequence, is the bus driver guilty of involuntary manslaughter?

Actually yes. If something goes wrong with your vehicle and you kill someone, you are 100% guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Plenty of people have been charged in that exact scenario.

No, you’re wrong. Of course when a death occurs too soon we want to blame someone and have them be held accountable. But that’s not always the legal or even moral correct answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Total BS. NM just wants to fry a big fish.

Nope. It is the correct decision.

He not only fired the weapon, he was also the producer. Protocols were not followed. People had left the set prior to the shooting because of working conditions.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/bu...-crew-walked-off-set

This is the lowest felony he can be charged with when a death is involved. Question is.... will it go to trial or will he plea?

A producer
Not THE producer.
There is a huge difference

The person who puled the trigger

He’s an actor doing his job. He didn’t knowingly put a live bullet in the gun for the scene to kill her. I don’t think he should be charged. People get injured and sometimes die doing their jobs every day.

That's why it's INVOLUNTARY manslaughter no?

So if a bus driver gets on the bus to do his route and the brakes weren't fixed properly by the mechanic and he runs someone over as a consequence, is the bus driver guilty of involuntary manslaughter?

Actually yes. If something goes wrong with your vehicle and you kill someone, you are 100% guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Plenty of people have been charged in that exact scenario.

YOUR VEHICLE. The scenario is a bus driver and a bus.

That was not Alec Baldwin's gun. He was on a movie set and someone's job was to make sure the gun was safe. That was not his job. Just like if a bus driver gets in an accident because the mechanic didn't fix the bus' brakes properly, the driver is not held responsible.