NJ to teach gender lessons

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Teaching kids in elementary school about “flicking the bean” is appropriate? It’s not. Not at all.

Ok. No one is proposing to do that.

Manufactured issue.

It’s in a video specifically linked on the nj.gov education resource website for educational standards.

What age/grade level do you think is appropriate to learn about “flicking the bean” in school?

Upper HS.

so in 10th grade, hs kids should be told about woman “flicking their bean?”

It’s fine to talk to 11th/12th graders about masturbation. What’s wrong with that? It’s a normal, healthy thing to do. I’d rather have my kids masturbating than having intercourse.

Parents have always been able to opt their kids out of sex ed.

You seriously think 11th and 12th graders should be shown cartoons that depict a young boy masturbating in front of a computer and loudly ejaculating and having an orgasm? In school?

Yes, the pp thinks that. Pp is depraved.

How is that more “depraved” than a condom on banana demonstration?

Frankly, that is inappropriate as well.

Why?

They’ve been doing that for 30+ years.

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Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.

In any middle school today it’s about 20%.

The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.

Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.

So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.

All of this. Something is clearly wrong.

+100 When the number of transgender individuals goes from a tiny fraction of one percent to 1 in 8 then there is definitely something going on. There are probably several factors involved but social media, social contagion especially among girls, increased isolation during covid etc all have played a role. There was a link in an earlier post about a transgender psychologist expressing her concerns over the explosion in the numbers of cases among teens. Jazz Jenning's surgeon came out not that long ago with similar concerns. You can tell they are in CYA mode because they can see the writing on the wall and know there will be an inevitable wave of lawsuits down the road.

Endocrine disrupters. I’d bet a lot that is what is going on. We reap what we sow.

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Teaching kids in elementary school about “flicking the bean” is appropriate? It’s not. Not at all.

Ok. No one is proposing to do that.

Manufactured issue.

It’s in a video specifically linked on the nj.gov education resource website for educational standards.

What age/grade level do you think is appropriate to learn about “flicking the bean” in school?

Upper HS.

so in 10th grade, hs kids should be told about woman “flicking their bean?”

It’s fine to talk to 11th/12th graders about masturbation. What’s wrong with that? It’s a normal, healthy thing to do. I’d rather have my kids masturbating than having intercourse.

Parents have always been able to opt their kids out of sex ed.

You seriously think 11th and 12th graders should be shown cartoons that depict a young boy masturbating in front of a computer and loudly ejaculating and having an orgasm? In school?

Yes, the pp thinks that. Pp is depraved.

How is that more “depraved” than a condom on banana demonstration?

Frankly, that is inappropriate as well.

You know what’s inappropriate? Teenagers ruining their lives by having babies because the adults in their lives didn’t teach them better. There is no minimum competency requirement to give birth in this country. Schools have to fill in the gaps. Studies have repeatedly shown that the more info you give kids, the better the outcomes. Might not fit with the twisted pervert world view of many on the right, but facts are facts no matter how much they hurt.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

I'm the ^PP who stated that children are impressionable, so pushing this narrative can be "confusing" to kids. IMO, they shouldn't make it gender specific.

However, I think a young boy can know that he is different to other boys if he likes girlie things, and wants to play dressup with a pink princess dress rather than with cars or whatever, when he sees that no other boy around him likes to do those things. He may not know what it feels like to be a girl, but he knows that he's different. And that can be confusing and scary to a little kid.

The curriculum should focus on teaching kids that everyone can be different, and liking and dressing differently than you or what is expected of you by society is ok. But, I don't think outright saying, "Some boys feel like girls, and some girls feel like boys" is the right way to approach it because I think a little kid would start questionning themselves without cause.

The other thing I don't like about how pervasive this is is that it's almost become "cool" in some liberal areas for kids to say that they are "transgender" or whatever else is the "cool" thing to identify with these days. This is mostly an issue in liberal areas, obviously, because no kid in a conservative area wants to identify as "different".

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you’re not teaching anymore. My little boy knows he’s a boy through and through and he’s not even 6. At his agr, I was a lot more unsure. People said I was a girl, but I didn’t like girl things. I didn’t want to be what society said a girl must be. Good thing I grew up among reasonable people and strong role models of both sexes instead of mentally fragile people who can’t handle any deviation from their gender world view without losing their minds. So damn fragile.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

I'm the ^PP who stated that children are impressionable, so pushing this narrative can be "confusing" to kids. IMO, they shouldn't make it gender specific.

However, I think a young boy can know that he is different to other boys if he likes girlie things, and wants to play dressup with a pink princess dress rather than with cars or whatever, when he sees that no other boy around him likes to do those things. He may not know what it feels like to be a girl, but he knows that he's different. And that can be confusing and scary to a little kid.

The curriculum should focus on teaching kids that everyone can be different, and liking and dressing differently than you or what is expected of you by society is ok. But, I don't think outright saying, "Some boys feel like girls, and some girls feel like boys" is the right way to approach it because I think a little kid would start questionning themselves without cause.

The other thing I don't like about how pervasive this is is that it's almost become "cool" in some liberal areas for kids to say that they are "transgender" or whatever else is the "cool" thing to identify with these days. This is mostly an issue in liberal areas, obviously, because no kid in a conservative area wants to identify as "different".

I am the person who taught 6 YOs for years. This was back when we actually had time for play in 1st grade.
My classroom had a block area, painting area, kitchen area, dress up area, and other centers. During "free time" kids chose which center they wanted to go. I did actually have boys go to the dress up area and the kitchen area.... places "traditionally" thought of as girl centers. Nobody batted an eye. I also had girls construct in the block center.
Kids will be who they want to be if given the freedom from being judged.
And, I agree with you - telling them they may "feel" like the other sex is a bridge too far.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you’re not teaching anymore. My little boy knows he’s a boy through and through and he’s not even 6. At his agr, I was a lot more unsure. People said I was a girl, but I didn’t like girl things. I didn’t want to be what society said a girl must be. Good thing I grew up among reasonable people and strong role models of both sexes instead of mentally fragile people who can’t handle any deviation from their gender world view without losing their minds. So damn fragile.

You have no idea who you are speaking to.
You don't have to like traditional "girl" things to be a girl. That is not what makes a girl a girl. You should know better than that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you’re not teaching anymore. My little boy knows he’s a boy through and through and he’s not even 6. At his agr, I was a lot more unsure. People said I was a girl, but I didn’t like girl things. I didn’t want to be what society said a girl must be. Good thing I grew up among reasonable people and strong role models of both sexes instead of mentally fragile people who can’t handle any deviation from their gender world view without losing their minds. So damn fragile.

You have no idea who you are speaking to.
You don't have to like traditional "girl" things to be a girl. That is not what makes a girl a girl. You should know better than that.

Yes, but apparently teaching kids that stereotypes are bad and limiting in language they might understand is going to be the end of the free world. Let’s face it- that’s not a popular message. We literally start gendering kids and assigning all kinds of traits to them before they are even born. The bulk of the people populating this thread are not of the “accept all kinds” mindset. They are afraid their d*cks will fall off if their little boy picks up a doll.

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Frankly, I'm more offended by the fact that we are the only country in the world that normalizes mass violence in schools and needs to hold active shooter drills (beginning in kindergarten!) than I am by anything children may or may not be exposed to regarding gender identity.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.