NJ to teach gender lessons

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you’re not teaching anymore. My little boy knows he’s a boy through and through and he’s not even 6. At his agr, I was a lot more unsure. People said I was a girl, but I didn’t like girl things. I didn’t want to be what society said a girl must be. Good thing I grew up among reasonable people and strong role models of both sexes instead of mentally fragile people who can’t handle any deviation from their gender world view without losing their minds. So damn fragile.

You have no idea who you are speaking to.
You don't have to like traditional "girl" things to be a girl. That is not what makes a girl a girl. You should know better than that.

+1. The left literally talks about "gender identity" and wants us to put our pronouns on everything. Gender obsession.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

Not to mention the therapy that will be needed the rest of his/her life.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you’re not teaching anymore. My little boy knows he’s a boy through and through and he’s not even 6. At his agr, I was a lot more unsure. People said I was a girl, but I didn’t like girl things. I didn’t want to be what society said a girl must be. Good thing I grew up among reasonable people and strong role models of both sexes instead of mentally fragile people who can’t handle any deviation from their gender world view without losing their minds. So damn fragile.

You have no idea who you are speaking to.
You don't have to like traditional "girl" things to be a girl. That is not what makes a girl a girl. You should know better than that.

+1. The left literally talks about "gender identity" and wants us to put our pronouns on everything. Gender obsession.

The people who can't stop talking about transgenderism are conservatives. I've never had any discussion about the topic with a liberal - and I know many of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

I taught 6 YOs for years.
It is ridiculous to tell them that they may be a boy but *feel* like a girl. Talk about confusing these little ones!!!

Six year olds have no idea what "gender" means other than a box that is checked on forms for "male" or "female."
And, you know what? Many of us agree with their thinking. The whole concept of "gender fluidity" is just ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you’re not teaching anymore. My little boy knows he’s a boy through and through and he’s not even 6. At his agr, I was a lot more unsure. People said I was a girl, but I didn’t like girl things. I didn’t want to be what society said a girl must be. Good thing I grew up among reasonable people and strong role models of both sexes instead of mentally fragile people who can’t handle any deviation from their gender world view without losing their minds. So damn fragile.

You have no idea who you are speaking to.
You don't have to like traditional "girl" things to be a girl. That is not what makes a girl a girl. You should know better than that.

+1. The left literally talks about "gender identity" and wants us to put our pronouns on everything. Gender obsession.

The people who can't stop talking about transgenderism are conservatives. I've never had any discussion about the topic with a liberal - and I know many of them.

The hilarious 2022 thing: I just met a very liberal, transgender student at Sarah Lawrence who’s tired to some other students being too woke and druggy for his taste. He’s worked hard to assemble a more sober, less doctrinaire community.

I think the moral is that, a lot of the time, if they’re sincere, people at all points on the political spectrum may find common ground.

But if Putin hired them to weaponize people on the left, that makes finding common ground more difficult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I'm more offended by the fact that we are the only country in the world that normalizes mass violence in schools and needs to hold active shooter drills (beginning in kindergarten!) than I am by anything children may or may not be exposed to regarding gender identity.

Exactly.

Active shooters drills for Kindergartners? GOP is cool with this.

Learning to be kind and inclusive? GOP freaks TF out.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

What are the numbers on this? I keep seeing people talking about children making permanent changes to their bodies and later regretting it in large numbers but is it actually a large number kind of thing? First off, how many trans kids are being treated with cross sex hormones? Second, are there statistics on how many regret it? What is the solution for it, just tell trans kids they have to wait until they’re 18? Or is that still too young? Is there a too old? What age range do you deem appropriate for someone to know they are a trans person?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

Citation?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

Citation?

I would actually like to know how many of these kids actually had cross sex hormones because I’d wager the vast majority of them simply did a social transition then changed back.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

What are the numbers on this? I keep seeing people talking about children making permanent changes to their bodies and later regretting it in large numbers but is it actually a large number kind of thing? First off, how many trans kids are being treated with cross sex hormones? Second, are there statistics on how many regret it? What is the solution for it, just tell trans kids they have to wait until they’re 18? Or is that still too young? Is there a too old? What age range do you deem appropriate for someone to know they are a trans person?

I think age 25. Prefrontal cortex is formed and they probably have some romantic relationships under their belt.

It is hard to define and quantify regret, but studies suggest that the majority have clear regret. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

Another that I posted upthread from the highly respected Karolinska found people were 19x more likely to kill themselves after the surgery.

I think empathy is incredibly important and its important to consider all the unintended consequences of advocating for a certain approach. I'd highly recommend listening to or reading interviews with people who were transitioned as children. I used to be in favor of this but the more I read, I have become solidly opposed.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

What are the numbers on this? I keep seeing people talking about children making permanent changes to their bodies and later regretting it in large numbers but is it actually a large number kind of thing? First off, how many trans kids are being treated with cross sex hormones? Second, are there statistics on how many regret it? What is the solution for it, just tell trans kids they have to wait until they’re 18? Or is that still too young? Is there a too old? What age range do you deem appropriate for someone to know they are a trans person?

I think age 25. Prefrontal cortex is formed and they probably have some romantic relationships under their belt.

It is hard to define and quantify regret, but studies suggest that the majority have clear regret. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

Another that I posted upthread from the highly respected Karolinska found people were 19x more likely to kill themselves after the surgery.

I think empathy is incredibly important and its important to consider all the unintended consequences of advocating for a certain approach. I'd highly recommend listening to or reading interviews with people who were transitioned as children. I used to be in favor of this but the more I read, I have become solidly opposed.

Am I missing something? Your link clearly states less than a 1% regret rate.

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Based on this review, there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

What are the numbers on this? I keep seeing people talking about children making permanent changes to their bodies and later regretting it in large numbers but is it actually a large number kind of thing? First off, how many trans kids are being treated with cross sex hormones? Second, are there statistics on how many regret it? What is the solution for it, just tell trans kids they have to wait until they’re 18? Or is that still too young? Is there a too old? What age range do you deem appropriate for someone to know they are a trans person?

I think age 25. Prefrontal cortex is formed and they probably have some romantic relationships under their belt.

It is hard to define and quantify regret, but studies suggest that the majority have clear regret. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

Another that I posted upthread from the highly respected Karolinska found people were 19x more likely to kill themselves after the surgery.

I think empathy is incredibly important and its important to consider all the unintended consequences of advocating for a certain approach. I'd highly recommend listening to or reading interviews with people who were transitioned as children. I used to be in favor of this but the more I read, I have become solidly opposed.

That's not what your link says. It says that from a pool of "7928 transgender patients who underwent any type of GAS" that "a total of 77 patients regretted having had GAS." That's not even 1%. The group where the majority had clear regret was OF THAT 1%. The study concluded that "Based on this review, there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS. We believe this study corroborates the improvements made in regard to selection criteria for GAS." You get much higher rates of regret from chemotherapy. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3015023/)

It's very strange to become "solidly opposed" based on this research.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

Citation?

The atudy cites 80% under the developmental section. Some European studies say 90%. There is plenty of data available, but most are fairly consistent with 80-90%, which by any account would be the vast majority.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.

This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.

I think that's the point of the lesson...

A child is told at a very young age that they are a <insert gender here> from their parents. It's just a label. But, what if the 6 yr old boy wants to be a girl, and "feels" like a girl. He sees his sister or friend in a pretty dress and wants to wear one, or vice versa.. a girl wants to "look" like a boy. A long time ago, this was called a "tomboy" for a girl, but there was no equivalent for a boy. But, today, we call it something else. In some ways, it's good that children who feel differently are taught that there is nothing wrong with them.

OTH, I do think that children are very impressionable, and teaching them about certain advanced topics at this tender age makes them more prone to think that that's them, too, even if it isn't. This is may cause unnecessary confusion.

Maybe a more toned down curriculum would be better, focusing on accepting people who are "different" rather than "you might feel like a girl when they said you were a boy".

Accepting people who are different is literally the entire point of the exercise. It’s also what the right wing absolutely cannot stand. Anything short of rigorously enforced, antiquated gender roles assigned on genitalia present at birth simply will not do for them.

Bull$hit.
Telling young children that their sex is fluid *is* the point of these exercises. And, it is inappropriate.

Accepting people who are "different" is totally acceptable. Newsflash here: We are ALL different. Teaching others kindness and compassion is one thing.... telling them that they may feel like a girl even though they are a boy is not appropriate. How in the hell does a boy know what being a girl *feels* like? He doesn't because he is a boy.

Listen, I’m sorry you can’t understand people who think differently than you. But that’s a you problem, it’s not a 6-year old’s problem. Try to get with the picture and start showing a bit of empathy.

If a child says they feel like a cat, should we provide them with a litter box?

The vast majority of gender dysphoric youth go on to identify as their biological sex. Its cruel to sentence a person to a lifetime of medical treatment, infertility, etc because they had identity struggles as a kid.

DP.. you are being insulting to people who have real gender identity issues, and I'm a PP who is not in favor of pushing the "sometimes a boy can feel like a girl" curriculum.

There are people who have legitimate issues with gender identity. Imagine being confused about your gender identity without anyone pushing that narrative. The suicide rate in this community is very high, in part, because of people like you. You belittle what they are going through, and your flippant attitude is probably why liberals keep pushing the envelope on these issues.

DP. PP is not being insulting. The FACT is that the majority of confused kids do go on to identify as their biological sex. Imagine what the suicide rate will be when kids who were allowed to make permanent changes to their bodies decide that was a big mistake as a young adult, the age when mental health issues typically arise. Children need guidance. Many children may need therapy. What they don't need is adults not their parents, and who do not know anything about the child's history, talking to them and/or encouraging them about such life-changing thoughts and feelings.

What are the numbers on this? I keep seeing people talking about children making permanent changes to their bodies and later regretting it in large numbers but is it actually a large number kind of thing? First off, how many trans kids are being treated with cross sex hormones? Second, are there statistics on how many regret it? What is the solution for it, just tell trans kids they have to wait until they’re 18? Or is that still too young? Is there a too old? What age range do you deem appropriate for someone to know they are a trans person?

I think age 25. Prefrontal cortex is formed and they probably have some romantic relationships under their belt.

It is hard to define and quantify regret, but studies suggest that the majority have clear regret. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

Another that I posted upthread from the highly respected Karolinska found people were 19x more likely to kill themselves after the surgery.

I think empathy is incredibly important and its important to consider all the unintended consequences of advocating for a certain approach. I'd highly recommend listening to or reading interviews with people who were transitioned as children. I used to be in favor of this but the more I read, I have become solidly opposed.

That's not what your link says. It says that from a pool of "7928 transgender patients who underwent any type of GAS" that "a total of 77 patients regretted having had GAS." That's not even 1%. The group where the majority had clear regret was OF THAT 1%. The study concluded that "Based on this review, there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS. We believe this study corroborates the improvements made in regard to selection criteria for GAS." You get much higher rates of regret from chemotherapy. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3015023/)

It's very strange to become "solidly opposed" based on this research.

DP. I don't know about how many that undergo transition and then regret it, but I think the issue at hand is the percentage that go on to identify as their birth gender by young adulthood, and the above study shows 80%.