Missionaries should be banned

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Samaritans Purse isn't afraid to come out and say it.

(1:38) Doctor: It’s incredibly amazing to see the interaction of Gospel and medicine together. Just to be able to meet someone at a vulnerable place that just gives us a window of opportunity to be able to share about god and his love.

Pp, your objections seem to be around the word “share.” But your own video has no evidence of people actually proselytizing in the sense of telling them to come to Jesus. Instead, your own video has a great example of what everybody here has been telling you, that a lot of missionary work these days is by example.

2:50 (Doctor) Just being able to smile with, to hold a child, to operate, those are gospel messages.

No, the videos don't not show the actual conversations with the doctor, staff, chaplains at the hospital. They do show praying though.

It's disingenuous to say they never talk about Jesus. Really - you don't think the topic ever comes up?

Clearly, these conversations are happening. How would non-Christian people even come up with the phrases "invite Jesus in my life" "give my life to Jesus" "receive Christ"? The Mongolian mom says she was given "The Greatest Journey" to learn more about God. It's not like one day she just spontaneously wanted to get baptized. How would she even know what that is?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, then anti-christians need to stop disrespecting the Christian culture of America, and of Virginia in particular, and trying to force their beliefs on us.

Mayflower Compact (written by my direct ancestor):

"IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, . . . by the Grace of God. . . Having undertaken FOR THE GLORY OF GOD, AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage TO PLANT THE FIRST COLONY IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF VIRGINIA."

Virginia Constitution - Article 1, Section 16:

"[I]t is the mutual DUTY OF ALL TO PRACTICE CHRISTIAN FORBEARANCE, LOVE, AND CHARITY towards each other."

That’s nice. And totally irrelevant.

No, it's not. Plymouth and Virginia were founded as Christian governments. You don't respect our original beliefs. It is you proselytizing to us and trying to change us.

The Virginia Constitution literally says its our "duty to practice Christian . . charity."

Practicing Christian charity is our founding belief in Virginia. Please respect our original beliefs and customs.

It doesn't say go out and exploit health care crises and natural disasters as "platforms" to convert vulnerable people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, then anti-christians need to stop disrespecting the Christian culture of America, and of Virginia in particular, and trying to force their beliefs on us.

Mayflower Compact (written by my direct ancestor):

"IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, . . . by the Grace of God. . . Having undertaken FOR THE GLORY OF GOD, AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage TO PLANT THE FIRST COLONY IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF VIRGINIA."

Virginia Constitution - Article 1, Section 16:

"[I]t is the mutual DUTY OF ALL TO PRACTICE CHRISTIAN FORBEARANCE, LOVE, AND CHARITY towards each other."

That’s nice. And totally irrelevant.

No, it's not. Plymouth and Virginia were founded as Christian governments. You don't respect our original beliefs. It is you proselytizing to us and trying to change us.

The Virginia Constitution literally says its our "duty to practice Christian . . charity."

Practicing Christian charity is our founding belief in Virginia. Please respect our original beliefs and customs.

It doesn't say go out and exploit health care crises and natural disasters as "platforms" to convert vulnerable people.

Charity = free health care

Christian charity = Christian free health care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, then anti-christians need to stop disrespecting the Christian culture of America, and of Virginia in particular, and trying to force their beliefs on us.

Mayflower Compact (written by my direct ancestor):

"IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, . . . by the Grace of God. . . Having undertaken FOR THE GLORY OF GOD, AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage TO PLANT THE FIRST COLONY IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF VIRGINIA."

Virginia Constitution - Article 1, Section 16:

"[I]t is the mutual DUTY OF ALL TO PRACTICE CHRISTIAN FORBEARANCE, LOVE, AND CHARITY towards each other."

That’s nice. And totally irrelevant.

No, it's not. Plymouth and Virginia were founded as Christian governments. You don't respect our original beliefs. It is you proselytizing to us and trying to change us.

The Virginia Constitution literally says its our "duty to practice Christian . . charity."

Practicing Christian charity is our founding belief in Virginia. Please respect our original beliefs and customs.

It doesn't say go out and exploit health care crises and natural disasters as "platforms" to convert vulnerable people.

You haven’t documented exploitation. Far from it. It’s time to stop using hysterical language like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, then anti-christians need to stop disrespecting the Christian culture of America, and of Virginia in particular, and trying to force their beliefs on us.

Mayflower Compact (written by my direct ancestor):

"IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, . . . by the Grace of God. . . Having undertaken FOR THE GLORY OF GOD, AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage TO PLANT THE FIRST COLONY IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF VIRGINIA."

Virginia Constitution - Article 1, Section 16:

"[I]t is the mutual DUTY OF ALL TO PRACTICE CHRISTIAN FORBEARANCE, LOVE, AND CHARITY towards each other."

That’s nice. And totally irrelevant.

No, it's not. Plymouth and Virginia were founded as Christian governments. You don't respect our original beliefs. It is you proselytizing to us and trying to change us.

The Virginia Constitution literally says its our "duty to practice Christian . . charity."

Practicing Christian charity is our founding belief in Virginia. Please respect our original beliefs and customs.

It doesn't say go out and exploit health care crises and natural disasters as "platforms" to convert vulnerable people.

You haven’t documented exploitation. Far from it. It’s time to stop using hysterical language like this.

They aren't talking to them about Jesus when these people are whole - they are intentionally talking to them at times of critical need and very vulnerable.

It's exploiting the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

Not sure what image another poster is trying to portray of Haitians, but the country is about 86% Christian. More so than the U.S. now. So maybe the anti-Christians should stop pushing anti-Christianity on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Samaritans Purse isn't afraid to come out and say it.

(1:38) Doctor: It’s incredibly amazing to see the interaction of Gospel and medicine together. Just to be able to meet someone at a vulnerable place that just gives us a window of opportunity to be able to share about god and his love.

Pp, your objections seem to be around the word “share.” But your own video has no evidence of people actually proselytizing in the sense of telling them to come to Jesus. Instead, your own video has a great example of what everybody here has been telling you, that a lot of missionary work these days is by example.

2:50 (Doctor) Just being able to smile with, to hold a child, to operate, those are gospel messages.

No, the videos don't not show the actual conversations with the doctor, staff, chaplains at the hospital. They do show praying though.

It's disingenuous to say they never talk about Jesus. Really - you don't think the topic ever comes up?

Clearly, these conversations are happening. How would non-Christian people even come up with the phrases "invite Jesus in my life" "give my life to Jesus" "receive Christ"? The Mongolian mom says she was given "The Greatest Journey" to learn more about God. It's not like one day she just spontaneously wanted to get baptized. How would she even know what that is?

Seriously? You’re being ridiculous.

The video DOES document a guy setting an example.

Nothing in your videos justifies going off on a speculative tangent about why people are praying. Most likely, those Haitians were Christians already. If they weren’t, and the Mongolian mom probably wasn’t, maybe they were impressed by the example the doctors set. Maybe they were interested enough to ask. Maybe all of these people are smart enough to examine another faith and make their own decisions about it—something you continue to deny.

You don’t know, and you’ve proven nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

Are you making crap up because you don't have a valid point to make?

As I've stated many times, I don't want to deny them anything. I just want to separate aid from proselytizing. Do both - just not at the same time when people are vulnerable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, then anti-christians need to stop disrespecting the Christian culture of America, and of Virginia in particular, and trying to force their beliefs on us.

Mayflower Compact (written by my direct ancestor):

"IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, . . . by the Grace of God. . . Having undertaken FOR THE GLORY OF GOD, AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage TO PLANT THE FIRST COLONY IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF VIRGINIA."

Virginia Constitution - Article 1, Section 16:

"[I]t is the mutual DUTY OF ALL TO PRACTICE CHRISTIAN FORBEARANCE, LOVE, AND CHARITY towards each other."

That’s nice. And totally irrelevant.

No, it's not. Plymouth and Virginia were founded as Christian governments. You don't respect our original beliefs. It is you proselytizing to us and trying to change us.

The Virginia Constitution literally says its our "duty to practice Christian . . charity."

Practicing Christian charity is our founding belief in Virginia. Please respect our original beliefs and customs.

It doesn't say go out and exploit health care crises and natural disasters as "platforms" to convert vulnerable people.

You haven’t documented exploitation. Far from it. It’s time to stop using hysterical language like this.

They aren't talking to them about Jesus when these people are whole - they are intentionally talking to them at times of critical need and very vulnerable.

It's exploiting the situation.

What do you think aid workers and doctors do? You think they should wait until Haitians are middle class before showing up with food donations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

Are you making crap up because you don't have a valid point to make?

As I've stated many times, I don't want to deny them anything. I just want to separate aid from proselytizing. Do both - just not at the same time when people are vulnerable.

You haven’t been able to show proselytizing. You’ve showed a guy setting an example and some people, who were probably already Christian, praying. Stop cursing when you have nothing to show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

Not sure what image another poster is trying to portray of Haitians, but the country is about 86% Christian. More so than the U.S. now. So maybe the anti-Christians should stop pushing anti-Christianity on them.

There are missionaries working all over the world. Mongolia and Bangladesh (two of the linked videos) have a very small % of Christians.

And most Haitians are Catholic, not evangelicals. Very different beliefs and customs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

Are you making crap up because you don't have a valid point to make?

As I've stated many times, I don't want to deny them anything. I just want to separate aid from proselytizing. Do both - just not at the same time when people are vulnerable.

You haven’t been able to show proselytizing. You’ve showed a guy setting an example and some people, who were probably already Christian, praying. Stop cursing when you have nothing to show.

Do you think any of these missionaries around the world are proselytizing?

And when you stop making crap up, I'll stop calling it out. Easy solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya'll have never been to these poor countries. If you could get some free dried rice and beans and milk powder for your children you would look at a cross too.

A lot of government aid rotted at the docks in Haiti after the last hurricane. The government was unable to get the aid through.

Many of the religious groups, while smaller, are more nimble in getting aid through.

PP who worked in Haiti here. This is exactly right. Here’s one of the many books about the failure of NGOs in Haiti: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kindness-Haiti-International-NGOs/dp/0813553636/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=19I68GJFY7S2A&keywords=haiti+aid&qid=1644937156&sprefix=haiti+aid%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-2.

Anti-missionary pp, who is sitting in her comfy pool chair with a glass of rose on her Florida escape, wants to deny Haitians critical food and medical aid—which other groups aren’t providing enough of.

Why? Because pp is speculating about “how” people came to accept Jesus and whether their words are their own. Because, she thinks, Haitians are powerless to make their own choices.

Not sure what image another poster is trying to portray of Haitians, but the country is about 86% Christian. More so than the U.S. now. So maybe the anti-Christians should stop pushing anti-Christianity on them.

LOL, yes, most of them are Christian already.

I’ve been doing a running gag about anti-missionary pp and her wine choices to show how patronizing she is, as she tries to ban (title of the thread) needed missionary aid because she thinks the poor recipients can’t make their own choices. Even if the aid comes with pressure, which many have told her it doesn’t, and which she’s fail to prove. I try to vary her location and wine choices to keep it interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

They aren't talking to them about Jesus when these people are whole - they are intentionally talking to them at times of critical need and very vulnerable.

It's exploiting the situation.

Jesus said blasphemy against the holy spirit is the - only - unforgivable sin.

I suggest you stop your conduct.