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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

No one has mandated I be vaccinated. I have had a choice.
Everyone has a choice.

Can I please join you in your bunker where you had been hiding from reality? Tons of people were coerced and even fired for not getting vaccinated. Medical workers, federal employees and contractors, city and local government workers in big democrat run cities, transportation employees were all under mandates. Even if these mandates were disputed at some point in some states, people still got strong armed into taking the shots because of the threat of not only losing a job but losing your entire career. General population of democrat run cities were coerced with vaccine passports and excluded from most public indoor life. In places like NYC there are STILL All Private Employer vax mandates for any size small business of any industry, practically prohibiting anyone unvaxed from being able to work in NYC unless they qualify for hard to get exemptions or have lenient company not enforcing it where they can fly under the radar. In NYC, and I think also in SF there were vaxxports for little kids 5+ for whom the vax is still EUA to play sports, attend any childhood activity, dine indoors with their vaxed parents, attend bday parties in kid venues, etc.

Please tell me now that I am lying and NONE of this happened or is happening and that everyone had a choice.

You have the right to change jobs if your employer is trying to mandate something. You have the right to order from Amazon and have things delivered if you aren't willing to be vaccinated to protect front line workers at a grocery store.

Exactly. I truly don't get how PP and her ilk don't understand this. Republicans are always preaching personal responsibility and taking accountability for one's actions, but then turn around and while that they don't like the consequences of their choices. Everyone has a choice. PP just doesn't like the price she has to pay to exercise it, which is a completely different issue.

We all should've realized this a while ago, but the pandemic laid it bare: Republicans don't actually value personal responsibility or being held to account for their actions; they just don't want to be told what to do, while also wanting to tell everyone else what they should do.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

To the "operation warp speed" poster - what does that have to do with the question posed? What is the solution for inflation/the economy NOW? Not in 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

I am not GOP, I am an independent voter who used to be a lifetime Democrat. Democrats screwed up badly.

Sure you were (wink).
But, that aside, how? In concrete terms, please?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

I am not GOP, I am an independent voter who used to be a lifetime Democrat. Democrats screwed up badly.

Sure you were (wink).
But, that aside, how? In concrete terms, please?

I have no incentive to lie. There is NOTHING WRONG with being a Republican, it's legal party anyone can vote for and pretty much at least half of our country. I don't agree with them on some issues, that's why I am not a Republican. I have nothing to win pretending

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

There ARE mandates, are you f-ing gaslighting me? I already explained to you that many people are still subjected to mandates at work, and that some local governments are doing what SCOTUS had banned as unconstitutional (OSHA wide-sweeping mandates). The places that had the vaxxports and removed them didn't say they won't come back. In fact, NYC is under the color coded alert system where measures WILL be re-introduced should cases rise. It's a system already in place. Digital vax system is also being under development and will be deploying to be available in many states including Red states for the "next time"

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

There ARE mandates, are you f-ing gaslighting me? I already explained to you that many people are still subjected to mandates at work, and that some local governments are doing what SCOTUS had banned as unconstitutional (OSHA wide-sweeping mandates). The places that had the vaxxports and removed them didn't say they won't come back. In fact, NYC is under the color coded alert system where measures WILL be re-introduced should cases rise. It's a system already in place. Digital vax system is also being under development and will be deploying to be available in many states including Red states for the "next time"

There are no mandates. You can choose to not get vaccinated. You're just whining because you don't like the price you have to pay to rejoin civilization. Buck up and take some personal responsibility for your actions.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

Of all the false analogies used to normalize masking of mandates (seatbelts, helmets, speed limits, drunk driving, etc) the Clothing one is the dumbest.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

Of all the false analogies used to normalize masking of mandates (seatbelts, helmets, speed limits, drunk driving, etc) the Clothing one is the dumbest.

It's actually not. You can't choose to not wear a seatbelt while driving. You can choose to not wear clothing, you just can't participate in public activities.

But in any event, this is all lost on you. You've already shown us all that you're not a serious thinker. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

Of all the false analogies used to normalize masking of mandates (seatbelts, helmets, speed limits, drunk driving, etc) the Clothing one is the dumbest.

Can you please explain your opinion? You merely stated your conclusion, not your reasoning.

It seems pretty analogous. Cloth. Item that you wear. Only a rule when in public. It seems almost exactly the same other than the politics.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

There ARE mandates, are you f-ing gaslighting me? I already explained to you that many people are still subjected to mandates at work, and that some local governments are doing what SCOTUS had banned as unconstitutional (OSHA wide-sweeping mandates). The places that had the vaxxports and removed them didn't say they won't come back. In fact, NYC is under the color coded alert system where measures WILL be re-introduced should cases rise. It's a system already in place. Digital vax system is also being under development and will be deploying to be available in many states including Red states for the "next time"

There are no mandates. You can choose to not get vaccinated. You're just whining because you don't like the price you have to pay to rejoin civilization. Buck up and take some personal responsibility for your actions.

If I live in NYC I cannot work at all, is this not a mandate? If am a college student in most colleges, I cannot attend and finish my degree if I don't take a booster (not just if I am not double vaxed, but if I am not ok signing up for the vax subscription plan). If I am a school athlete and let's say already had Covid and don't want the vax then I am unable to practice and play. If you are referring to vaxxports as the price to join society, then this is segregation. Nobody should be forced to inject something into their bodies against their will to have access to amenities that all of us have access to. And no, I don't have to pay this price, I am not an experimental animal, I don't have to sign up to be a lab rat for big Pharma and to appease our petty shallow politicians and idiots like you.

To control pandemics we need treatments. Treatments have different risk/benefit ratio than vaccines and people are more amendable to taking treatments when they are ALREADY SICK and especially very sick or sick and in risk category. I am talking about early treatments, not hospital treatments. Vaccines administered to like as if we are chicken at a factory poultry farm aren't a solution, because we are human, and individual health and the social contract where our health is between us and our doctor must not be broken. vax mandates break this social contract where we have our bodily autonomy and choice. And if you are pro-choice on abortion then you should understanding this very well, but you are a hypocrite

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

Of all the false analogies used to normalize masking of mandates (seatbelts, helmets, speed limits, drunk driving, etc) the Clothing one is the dumbest.

Can you please explain your opinion? You merely stated your conclusion, not your reasoning.

It seems pretty analogous. Cloth. Item that you wear. Only a rule when in public. It seems almost exactly the same other than the politics.

Vax isn't an item you "wear" , it's a part of your body whether you are in private or in public, how about this for a start. Maybe compare this to masks, and even than there are logical flaws.

1) Clothing doesn't have to be mandated, people need clothing to protect against weather elements and unwanted sexual advances. Even if it were legal to walk around naked, most would not choose this option.
2) Clothing is removable and changeable, vax isn't.
3) Clothing doesn't cover your breathing orifices that nature intended to be open for your body to function. Your mouth and nose also serve other functions : olfactory and communication. Clothing was invented to cover your private parts and to protect against weather elements. You cannot survive without clothing unless you live on a tropical island.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

Of all the false analogies used to normalize masking of mandates (seatbelts, helmets, speed limits, drunk driving, etc) the Clothing one is the dumbest.

Can you please explain your opinion? You merely stated your conclusion, not your reasoning.

It seems pretty analogous. Cloth. Item that you wear. Only a rule when in public. It seems almost exactly the same other than the politics.

Vax isn't an item you "wear" , it's a part of your body whether you are in private or in public, how about this for a start. Maybe compare this to masks, and even than there are logical flaws.

1) Clothing doesn't have to be mandated, people need clothing to protect against weather elements and unwanted sexual advances. Even if it were legal to walk around naked, most would not choose this option.
2) Clothing is removable and changeable, vax isn't.
3) Clothing doesn't cover your breathing orifices that nature intended to be open for your body to function. Your mouth and nose also serve other functions : olfactory and communication. Clothing was invented to cover your private parts and to protect against weather elements. You cannot survive without clothing unless you live on a tropical island.

Clothing is optional at nudist colonies, they exist, and nudist beaches aren't exactly illegal. You actually can be a nudist in some settings and still get to keep your job, go to college and practice sports, dine indoors, travel internationally. All you have to do is put whatever scant minimum clothing is required and here you go. In your community and at home you can be naked to your heart's content. You cannot remove the vax from your system when your work shift is over or after you come back from dinner or go on a school break.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump inherited a great economy and crashed it. Under Biden, we have a rapid recovery.

Actually Trump inherited a stagnant economy and eight years of lackluster GDP growth and high unemployment.

Trump turned things around and even during a pandemic managed to keep the economy on track.

Fact is under Trump:
Low fuel costs
Low energy cost
Low cost of commodities
No wars

Under Biden:
Skyrocketing fuel costs
Skyrocketing energy costs
Skyrocketing good prices
Skyrocketing inflation
Russian invades Ukraine
Iran attacks US embassy with rockets
OPEC dumbs US
China makes moves to trade oil with Yuan instead of petro-dollar
No answer ti Russian cyber-attacks.

It’s about the economy stupid as Carville said in the past. While costal elites buy Tesla’s and the white house appeals to TikTok “stars” to get people to secure more propaganda for their failed policies, most Americans are suffering and wondering if they should fill their gas tanks or out food on the table. If they complain they’re told to suck it up for a country thousands of miles away that no one cares about who honestly has a Nazi problem. Or their called Russian bots as that’s the new defacto “insult” now.

But the coastal elites are like the people of district 1 on the hunger games; they look down on the very people who supply them with the food and goods they use every day. While those people suffer they elected ramble on about “it’s worth it”. What a joke

I agree, it's been nothing but a runaway train, and it's only getting worse. We are constantly threatened now, insane inflation, devaluation of our savings, rising costs for all the basic necessities, and now we add nuclear war threat to this and our president is talking about cyber attacks. I don't know who in their right mind thinks what we have now is awesome and that our future is bright. And tons of people aren't as glassy eyed about this horrible war in Ukraine, many are questioning and for all the good reasons.

You folks are great at casting stones, whether they are truthful or not. But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you, what is the GOP proposal?

I'll save you the effort: there is not one. There never is. McConnell admitted as much for the midterms and said there would be no real platform, only a promise of revenge. Real nice from the party of family values.

Still waiting for an answer to this . . .

How to stop a runaway train? IDK, how about build some breaks, but I suppose that time for this has passed and we are f-ed. We have no control over what we already spent and the money we printed. All we can do is try to be more conservative about spending in the future.

You've made the point better than I ever could. You (and the GOP) have no plan. No solution.
Thanks for admitting it, at least.

If operation warp speed wasn’t done we wouldn’t have had the vaccine that liberals love.

I remember when it came out democrats were against the vaccine, then when January 2021 came around we literally had them change their talking points.

Bidenomics and the shutdown of the economy didn’t help. Inflation took off and there was no response from the administration.

Trump shut down the economy. That was under his watch.
The Pfizer vaccine wasn’t operation warp speed.
Democrats have never at any time been against a tested and vetted vaccine. No one wanted a shot that Trump pushed through solely for his political expedience. All his big talk about demanding drugs being approved on his schedule undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills.

MANDATES introduced by democratic governments is what undermined confidence in anyone with critical thinking skills. If you don't understand the harm that indiscriminatory mandates have caused to ruin our trust in many health institutions and local governments (and federal government - hello botched OSHA mandates) then you need to work on your own critical thinking skills. Vaccine was released whenever it was released, many of us were skeptical, INCLUDING Kamala Harris who spoke about being cautious to take such a rushed medical intervention. But there were millions eagerly waiting for it, especially those high risk and those with anxiety who just couldn't move on with out it. These people consented to take this intervention and were happy with having received it. Had we stopped right there and focused on making high risk groups vulnerable (eldery, obese, those with specific pre-existing conditions) we would have gotten more of them vaxed and it wouldn't have been so politicized to the point where it caused a major rift in our social fabric. But democrats decided to push collectivist agenda where we should feel good submitting our bodies to whatever needs to be injected for the "greater good" and because it's good for us. Whoever was skeptical at that point became even more skeptical.

Anyone with critical thinking skills knows that the vaccine is safe. There are reams of evidence to support that conclusion. But, I appreciate your admission in that incoherent word salad of yours that you just don't like being told to do your part in helping the country get over this. How pathetic. I hope your fee-fees heal one day. These must be trying times for you.

"word salad" lover is back . You should try other catchy phrase to dismiss valid arguments. Calling it word salad just shows that you didn't think for a minute before you wrote it, because you literally said nothing else in that "word salad" of yours. You also missed the point. We aren't talking about vaccines or how good or bad they are, we are talking about MANDATES. Mandates are wrong, no matter how you spin it. Even triple vaxxed are on board and realizing this now.

If you want to debate me on vax efficacy or safety, I don't think this forum is appropriate for it.

There is no mandate.

Isn’t wearing clothing mandated? Why are you not protesting THAT?

There ARE mandates, are you f-ing gaslighting me? I already explained to you that many people are still subjected to mandates at work, and that some local governments are doing what SCOTUS had banned as unconstitutional (OSHA wide-sweeping mandates). The places that had the vaxxports and removed them didn't say they won't come back. In fact, NYC is under the color coded alert system where measures WILL be re-introduced should cases rise. It's a system already in place. Digital vax system is also being under development and will be deploying to be available in many states including Red states for the "next time"

There are no mandates. You can choose to not get vaccinated. You're just whining because you don't like the price you have to pay to rejoin civilization. Buck up and take some personal responsibility for your actions.

If I live in NYC I cannot work at all, is this not a mandate? If am a college student in most colleges, I cannot attend and finish my degree if I don't take a booster (not just if I am not double vaxed, but if I am not ok signing up for the vax subscription plan). If I am a school athlete and let's say already had Covid and don't want the vax then I am unable to practice and play. If you are referring to vaxxports as the price to join society, then this is segregation. Nobody should be forced to inject something into their bodies against their will to have access to amenities that all of us have access to. And no, I don't have to pay this price, I am not an experimental animal, I don't have to sign up to be a lab rat for big Pharma and to appease our petty shallow politicians and idiots like you.

To control pandemics we need treatments. Treatments have different risk/benefit ratio than vaccines and people are more amendable to taking treatments when they are ALREADY SICK and especially very sick or sick and in risk category. I am talking about early treatments, not hospital treatments. Vaccines administered to like as if we are chicken at a factory poultry farm aren't a solution, because we are human, and individual health and the social contract where our health is between us and our doctor must not be broken. vax mandates break this social contract where we have our bodily autonomy and choice. And if you are pro-choice on abortion then you should understanding this very well, but you are a hypocrite

You have a choice to move. You have a choice to attend a college without a vaccine requirement. You have a choice to not play football. You have a choice to visit bars and restaurants and movie theaters. We all pay a price to live in civilization.

The vaccines are safe. There are reams of evidence indicating so.

There always has been - and always will be - an interest for the state to protect public health. This is why you were ~~~fOrCiBlY iNjEcTeD aGaInSt YoUr WiLl~~~ with the polio vaccine, the smallpox vaccine, the measles vaccine, the rubella vaccine, etc etc, in order to attend school.

You are not living in reality. I do hope that you decide to rejoin us one day.