Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.


What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??


Reid was hired not that long ago by a 12-0 Democratic School Board who saw in her someone equally committed to their equity agenda and commitment to progressive values. Do you really think she would put that on the line by challenging a Black principal and a Black coach at a school already known only for its athletic (basketball) rather than athletic success? No, she acted entirely how she thought a progressive White woman woukd act under the circumstances by defending Hayfield and refusing to conduct a real investigation. It is very much the bigotry of low expectations on display.

She needs to resign or be fired. She is a completely incompetent waste of taxpayer money.

BS. She behaved like a closeted white supremacist throughout this entire ordeal. She did no favors for the Black staff or the football team at Hayfield.


So can we all then just agree she has lost complete confidence of entire community. Here we have view she is “ progressive White woman” and that she is awful. Then have view is a “ closeted white supremacist” and is awful. So the one thing all can agree is awful.
Except that progressive and woke is what FFX voters have voted for since 2008. Dems got what they wanted ,“Portland-East”. (Frisch and his “lawn boy” is any example of this. There was some other member that ran on and got elected based on minstral equity, whatever that is.) I am not saying you have to vote R, but look at the candidates you are putting up. Any change has to start at the ballot box.


I think it's safe to say I don't think anyone really wants this. I might be wrong but it's 2024 now and identity politics are tired. I'm tired. Can we please get some more sane people in leadership positions within FCPS?



And in our country too please.
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Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


This is a very sad take.
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Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


Michelle Obama once said when they go low, we go high. How can we not have everyone thinking this as a baseline? Sure people can mess up, but to start from the premise of there are other awful people so let’s all be awful?


Those days are gone....America has continued to go low. So I get it and in 2016 I thought those were powerful words. No longer. And if you voted for lying and corruption you need to take a seat. We are telling our children lying and cheating is ok for the top position in our country but not for the superintendent and staff of FCPS


BTW I think lying and corruption is not ok and should not be what our leaders are known for....but America has spoken and this behavior is ok now. What you are saying the rich powerful white men can do it in our government but the white woman in FCPS should not be able to. It needs to make sense and be applied in all aspects of our country. We don't get to pick and choose when we want to to stand on moral high grounds.


I find people trying to defend Reid on the basis of her gender alone particularly repugnant.
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Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


This is a very sad take.


It's a troll take.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


This is a very sad take.



It's a sad time in our country.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


This is a very sad take.


It's a troll take.


Then I guess we could say this to every take and response or are only your responses and feelings valid???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You should see the Instagram handle hayfield.barstool. The Hayfield football players make a barely audible threat to Fritts.


There are threats against the FT reporter on other social media by the adults.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


Michelle Obama once said when they go low, we go high. How can we not have everyone thinking this as a baseline? Sure people can mess up, but to start from the premise of there are other awful people so let’s all be awful?


Those days are gone....America has continued to go low. So I get it and in 2016 I thought those were powerful words. No longer. And if you voted for lying and corruption you need to take a seat. We are telling our children lying and cheating is ok for the top position in our country but not for the superintendent and staff of FCPS


BTW I think lying and corruption is not ok and should not be what our leaders are known for....but America has spoken and this behavior is ok now. What you are saying the rich powerful white men can do it in our government but the white woman in FCPS should not be able to. It needs to make sense and be applied in all aspects of our country. We don't get to pick and choose when we want to to stand on moral high grounds.


I find people trying to defend Reid on the basis of her gender alone particularly repugnant.


No one is doing that. So you don't have to be upset about that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


This is a very sad take.


It's a troll take.


Then I guess we could say this to every take and response or are only your responses and feelings valid???


Do you think every response on this thread is serious? Some are, some aren't.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


Michelle Obama once said when they go low, we go high. How can we not have everyone thinking this as a baseline? Sure people can mess up, but to start from the premise of there are other awful people so let’s all be awful?


Those days are gone....America has continued to go low. So I get it and in 2016 I thought those were powerful words. No longer. And if you voted for lying and corruption you need to take a seat. We are telling our children lying and cheating is ok for the top position in our country but not for the superintendent and staff of FCPS


BTW I think lying and corruption is not ok and should not be what our leaders are known for....but America has spoken and this behavior is ok now. What you are saying the rich powerful white men can do it in our government but the white woman in FCPS should not be able to. It needs to make sense and be applied in all aspects of our country. We don't get to pick and choose when we want to to stand on moral high grounds.


I find people trying to defend Reid on the basis of her gender alone particularly repugnant.


No one is doing that. So you don't have to be upset about that.


Agreed
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


This is a very sad take.


It's a troll take.


Then I guess we could say this to every take and response or are only your responses and feelings valid???


Do you think every response on this thread is serious? Some are, some aren't.


Aware of that. Are you?
FrankWinston
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Completely unsurprising that one of the knuckle draggers who allowed this to happen, Abe Kamarck, started a change.org petition in support of the Hayfraud kids.

https://www.change.org/p/save-hayfield-football?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAab_9220BwwuZSYAo3RMZpxeAuq3HwJkcap7mQAf2IRODAYZxK2BML38CNg_aem_WBOtnSN3-BwqzhocJDpsgw
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Anonymous wrote:So when Reid stood up at that meeting in August and said everything was legit and the coach and principal had her full confidence, she knew that multiple football transfers had claimed to be homeless and that five kids all claimed the same address....


In fact, the Hayfield letter to VHSL defended five at the same address as evidence of the expensive nature of northern Virginia housing.


Wait, let me see if I understand this. Over the summer, people in the know at Hayfield request an investigation of a large number of potentially ineligible transfers. Instead of setting up an impartial outside investigation, FCPS decides to carry out the invesigation themselves. Of the 30 kids, they conduct a surprise drop-in of a sample to see if they are actually living at their alleged address. And it turns out that the majority of this small number of kids who got "verified" were the five kids at the same address?!

This is beyond cynical. This isn't even following the letter of the law,


Correct.

Hayfield referred 14 students to Gatehouse for residency checks in May 2024. Gatehouse didn’t complete the residency checks until August 26, 2024.
Reid announced on August 27 that the players were cleared. On August 29, the three skeptical school board members asked for an outside investigation but were voted down.

The Hayfield letter to VHSL says “shared housing is leveraged as an affordable living option for some families, particularly in urban areas with high cost housing…shared housing is not evidence that any family intends for their residency to be less than permanent and thus is not evidence of violation of the Transfer Rule (28A-7).”


Dont fall for it. This is what Reid wants everyone to focus on and the narrative strategy of her 3 letters- for everyone to focus on residency. The residency does NOT matter, but if she can get everyone fighting over that, she hopes they focus on the only 2 things that do matter and that are slam dunks - the violations for recruiting and spirit of game.

Reid’s new narrative strategy is to continue to mention the irrelevant eligibility and now also say that the college landscape changing so VHSL rules don’t work anymore. She is running FCPS by picking the rules she wants to agree or ignore with at the time.

She should have no vote of confidence from any family in FCPS that’s not the parent of the Hayfield starting football team. The time and $ on this mess that she could and should have stopped long before is staggering. Parents of students who are having problems other than whether they can play a football game, how heard do you feel right now? Thanks Reid and School Board for putting one principal’s football dream above everything else.


Can you explain what you mean about the eligibility being irrelevant? And the college landscape changing? How would that affect county residency rules?


It should impact residence rules and is another distraction, but idea is football now big business bc players can get $ beyond tuition. So coaches like Overton have their own businesses where they train kids (outside of school, but he has consistently been investigated for using school resources/facilities/$ for his own business). Some want to argue in name of equity that players should be able to transfer to whatever school want to play football wherever they want. Anything short of that is not equitable.

But again, THIS IS DISTACTION designed to gain sympathy for liars and cheaters.

Have fun enforcing any boundaries changes if make sports Wild West.


We need to do what is done in most of Europe. Kids who want to be athletes attend different schools and the public schools have intramural level sports that everyone has to be involved in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.


Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.


There’s no way.


Americans have voted cheating, corruption, and cover-ups are completely acceptable-Reid will be just fine.



I'm going to stand behind her....if "men" in power can lie and cover up and still have their job so should she. It can't be one and not the other.


Pathetic. She helped screw over so many kids and you're going to stand with her as a feminist? I'm a feminist and want her fired yesterday.
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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.


What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??


Reid was hired not that long ago by a 12-0 Democratic School Board who saw in her someone equally committed to their equity agenda and commitment to progressive values. Do you really think she would put that on the line by challenging a Black principal and a Black coach at a school already known only for its athletic (basketball) rather than athletic success? No, she acted entirely how she thought a progressive White woman woukd act under the circumstances by defending Hayfield and refusing to conduct a real investigation. It is very much the bigotry of low expectations on display.

She needs to resign or be fired. She is a completely incompetent waste of taxpayer money.

BS. She behaved like a closeted white supremacist throughout this entire ordeal. She did no favors for the Black staff or the football team at Hayfield.


It’s hard to back cheaters that break federal law regardless of skin color. Maybe next time you decide to possibly cheat, think about not doing it and breaking laws along the way? Just a bit of free advice.
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