2021 AAP Admissions Thread

[Anonymous]

IN for 3rd grade
Level IV
Cogat 121
GRBS don't know
mostly 4s on report card

[Anonymous]

I think so many smart kids left for private that this is a very easy year to get into level IV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both my kids are in Level IV so I have no chip on my shoulder, and I’m not sure how many of these posts are fake, but the idea that a kid got in with NNAT 119 and another got rejected with NNAT 140 is ABSURD. There should be no level of weight placed on a GBRS that can justify anywhere near that discrepancy. Absolutely embarrassing, and I assume just one more step toward eliminating any sense of meritocracy or achievement in our society. Congratulations America and FCPS

I think this points to my theory that different Local Level IV programs have different cut off points. Title 1 schools and near Title 1 schools are going to have fewer kids with higher test scores, so their programs would have a lower cut off. Local Level IVs in upper middle class and middle class schools are going to have higher score cut offs. Centers seem to be the ones that focus on the 132 but that seems to be only for kids who would have to attend a center, no Local Level IV or attending a Center school.

It would be helpful if FCPS stated this so that parents understood that the applications being compared were based on their local program and not something across the county. I would be surprised to find that there are many 119 COGAT scores being accepted into AAP in McLean but not surprised to find that a Title 1 Local Level IV had more 119 COGATs.

I was bored at home so I ran down the various Title 1 programs to see who had AAP and who didn't. I was shocked at how many Title 1 schools there are in FCPS. There are 39 total Title 1 ES, 25 with Local Level IV and 14 w/o.

Of the Title 1 schools, only Annandale Terrace, Beech Tree, Belvedere, Braddock, Brookfield, Cameron, Centre Ridge, Clearview, Crestwood, Forest Edge, Glen Forest, Graham Road, Groveton, Hollin Meadows, London Towne, Mt. Vernon Woods, Parklawn, Pine Spring, Providence, Riverside, Sleepy Hollow, Timber Lane, Washington Mill, Westlawn, and Woodley Hills had Local Level IV. The percent of kids in Local Level IV was from 4% to 30%. Most the schools seemed to be in the 10% range. I wonder if some of the smaller percentages are because the parents move the kids to the Center, some look like they are newer programs because there are no numbers for kids three years ago. Many of the schools with 5% have fewer than 30 total kids in Local Level IV.

Title 1 schools without Local Level IV: Bailey's Elementary, Bren Mar, Bucknell, Dogwood, Forestdale, Garfield, Herndon, Hutchison, Hybla Valley, Lynbrook, Mount Eagle, Weyanoke, Woodburn, Woodlawn,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. 2nd
2. NNAT 123
3. GBRS no idea, but thinking good
4. WISC 138
5. Mosby Woods, advanced math and Leve II AAP
6. IN

What does Advance Maths means here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think so many smart kids left for private that this is a very easy year to get into level IV.

Hahaha! You think it's easier than previous years???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. 2nd
2. NNAT 123
3. GBRS no idea, but thinking good
4. WISC 138
5. Mosby Woods, advanced math and Leve II AAP
6. IN

What does Advance Maths means here?

Advanced Math is offered at some schools starting in third. It is the same math curriculum used in the AAP Level IV classroom. Some schools do not offer Advanced Math until fifth grade. It speeds up what the kids are learning so that by fifth grade, the kids in Advanced Math/AAP are learning sixth grade material. In sixth grade, they are learning seventh grade material.

My third grader is in Advanced Math. They cover the fourth grade concepts at the same time as the third grade concepts. It accelerates math for the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think so many smart kids left for private that this is a very easy year to get into level IV.

There are still so many smart kids who have no money for private schools stay in FCPS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not in. Anything other than the WISC good for appeals? Anyone look beyond George Mason for testing?

Your best chance is with a WISC from GMU. FCPS clearly prefers GMU.

[Anonymous]

1. 2nd
2. NNAT 136
3. GBRS no idea but my kid is really shy
4. WISC none
5. Canterbury Woods
6. IN

I was also the previous poster who said she received an email on Monday from AART that DC was eligible for LLIII. I spent the whole week thinking he didn’t get in and processing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. 2nd
2. NNAT 123
3. GBRS no idea, but thinking good
4. WISC 138
5. Mosby Woods, advanced math and Leve II AAP
6. IN

What does Advance Maths means here?

Enriched math pull outs 3x/week with a different math teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think so many smart kids left for private that this is a very easy year to get into level IV.

There are still so many smart kids who have no money for private schools stay in FCPS!

Not really. As I said, my son is in grade 3. 99th percentile WISC, perfect GBRS, Advanced Math and Level III, Cogat was 128 and NNAT 120. Also all 4s on report cards. Rejected again. So really, not any easier....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both my kids are in Level IV so I have no chip on my shoulder, and I’m not sure how many of these posts are fake, but the idea that a kid got in with NNAT 119 and another got rejected with NNAT 140 is ABSURD. There should be no level of weight placed on a GBRS that can justify anywhere near that discrepancy. Absolutely embarrassing, and I assume just one more step toward eliminating any sense of meritocracy or achievement in our society. Congratulations America and FCPS

I think this points to my theory that different Local Level IV programs have different cut off points. Title 1 schools and near Title 1 schools are going to have fewer kids with higher test scores, so their programs would have a lower cut off. Local Level IVs in upper middle class and middle class schools are going to have higher score cut offs. Centers seem to be the ones that focus on the 132 but that seems to be only for kids who would have to attend a center, no Local Level IV or attending a Center school.

It would be helpful if FCPS stated this so that parents understood that the applications being compared were based on their local program and not something across the county. I would be surprised to find that there are many 119 COGAT scores being accepted into AAP in McLean but not surprised to find that a Title 1 Local Level IV had more 119 COGATs.

I was bored at home so I ran down the various Title 1 programs to see who had AAP and who didn't. I was shocked at how many Title 1 schools there are in FCPS. There are 39 total Title 1 ES, 25 with Local Level IV and 14 w/o.

Of the Title 1 schools, only Annandale Terrace, Beech Tree, Belvedere, Braddock, Brookfield, Cameron, Centre Ridge, Clearview, Crestwood, Forest Edge, Glen Forest, Graham Road, Groveton, Hollin Meadows, London Towne, Mt. Vernon Woods, Parklawn, Pine Spring, Providence, Riverside, Sleepy Hollow, Timber Lane, Washington Mill, Westlawn, and Woodley Hills had Local Level IV. The percent of kids in Local Level IV was from 4% to 30%. Most the schools seemed to be in the 10% range. I wonder if some of the smaller percentages are because the parents move the kids to the Center, some look like they are newer programs because there are no numbers for kids three years ago. Many of the schools with 5% have fewer than 30 total kids in Local Level IV.

Title 1 schools without Local Level IV: Bailey's Elementary, Bren Mar, Bucknell, Dogwood, Forestdale, Garfield, Herndon, Hutchison, Hybla Valley, Lynbrook, Mount Eagle, Weyanoke, Woodburn, Woodlawn,

When you use the designation "Local Level IV", do you mean to include Level IV Center schools also? Not sure if it has any meaningful impact on your analysis. But, for example, Clearview (Title 1) is a Level IV Center program, not a Local IV program. There may be other schools on your Local Level IV list are also Center schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. 2nd
2. NNAT 123
3. GBRS no idea, but thinking good
4. WISC 138
5. Mosby Woods, advanced math and Leve II AAP
6. IN

What does Advance Maths means here?

Advanced Math is offered at some schools starting in third. It is the same math curriculum used in the AAP Level IV classroom. Some schools do not offer Advanced Math until fifth grade. It speeds up what the kids are learning so that by fifth grade, the kids in Advanced Math/AAP are learning sixth grade material. In sixth grade, they are learning seventh grade material.

My third grader is in Advanced Math. They cover the fourth grade concepts at the same time as the third grade concepts. It accelerates math for the kids.

A few schools offer advanced math starting in 2nd. I'm guessing that PP has a kid at Providence, since they usually have 2nd grade advanced math.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else having problems accessing the acceptance website?

[Anonymous]

I just pulled the list of Title 1 schools and looked at their school profiles to see if they had a Level IV program. I would guess that the few schools that were in the 25-30% of population in Level IV were Center schools. The vast majority of the schools seemed to be between 5-10% participation in Level IV.

It really was a quick gander to get a feel for what percentage of Title 1 schools had Level IV programs.