2021 AAP Admissions Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

Aren’t reports cards and SOLs submitted anyway?

I don't actually know. This is what I put in the package when I did the parent referral. I should clarify that by "nothing else" I meant no other test scores. I did submit work samples and a couple of awards she won.

Do you think the awards made a difference?
Math awards? Art? Writing contest?

They are not accepting awards/contest stuff. It’s on FCPS website.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

Aren’t reports cards and SOLs submitted anyway?

I don't actually know. This is what I put in the package when I did the parent referral. I should clarify that by "nothing else" I meant no other test scores. I did submit work samples and a couple of awards she won.

Do you think the awards made a difference?
Math awards? Art? Writing contest?

They are not accepting awards/contest stuff. It’s on FCPS website.

They were for programming projects. To be honest I hadn't Idea I wasn't supposed to do that. This was a few years ago, fwiw.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

Aren’t reports cards and SOLs submitted anyway?

I don't actually know. This is what I put in the package when I did the parent referral. I should clarify that by "nothing else" I meant no other test scores. I did submit work samples and a couple of awards she won.

Do you think the awards made a difference?
Math awards? Art? Writing contest?

They are not accepting awards/contest stuff. It’s on FCPS website.

They were for programming projects. To be honest I hadn't Idea I wasn't supposed to do that. This was a few years ago, fwiw.

They accepted awards prior years but not this past application process. It was part of their equity agenda for AAP.

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I don’t trust the new holistic application process for TJ and AAP, there could be a lot of bias there behind the scenes with the new application process. Does anyone know if there will be data available to a breakdown of students accepted vs. declined for TJ and Level 4 services? I would like to see the data by schools, race, testing scores and GBRS of students accepted vs declined. FCPS should have atleast published in pool scores for each school.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust the new holistic application process for TJ and AAP, there could be a lot of bias there behind the scenes with the new application process. Does anyone know if there will be data available to a breakdown of students accepted vs. declined for TJ and Level 4 services? I would like to see the data by schools, race, testing scores and GBRS of students accepted vs declined. FCPS should have atleast published in pool scores for each school.

The process doesn’t seem transparent at all.

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Guys if you care about AAP and honors reach out to FCPS Braebrand, Presideo and school board members and get them committed to align AAP and Honors with the proposed math pathway before it’s too late. Although VDOE said they are not removing HS advanced math courses, they are pushing equity education which is heterogeneous classrooms rather than ability grouping. It’s up to FCPS to continue acceleration.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you care about AAP and honors reach out to FCPS Braebrand, Presideo and school board members and get them committed to align AAP and Honors with the proposed math pathway before it’s too late. Although VDOE said they are not removing HS advanced math courses, they are pushing equity education which is heterogeneous classrooms rather than ability grouping. It’s up to FCPS to continue acceleration.

Here is Terry McAuliffe equity education plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you care about AAP and honors reach out to FCPS Braebrand, Presideo and school board members and get them committed to align AAP and Honors with the proposed math pathway before it’s too late. Although VDOE said they are not removing HS advanced math courses, they are pushing equity education which is heterogeneous classrooms rather than ability grouping. It’s up to FCPS to continue acceleration.

Here is Terry McAuliffe equity education plan.

https://terrymcauliffe.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1.29.21-FINAL-Education-Plan-1.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you care about AAP and honors reach out to FCPS Braebrand, Presideo and school board members and get them committed to align AAP and Honors with the proposed math pathway before it’s too late. Although VDOE said they are not removing HS advanced math courses, they are pushing equity education which is heterogeneous classrooms rather than ability grouping. It’s up to FCPS to continue acceleration.

Here is Terry McAuliffe equity education plan.

https://terrymcauliffe.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1.29.21-FINAL-Education-Plan-1.pdf

So, he doesn't care about advanced math, AAP and Honors, he is pushing equity education...

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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you care about AAP and honors reach out to FCPS Braebrand, Presideo and school board members and get them committed to align AAP and Honors with the proposed math pathway before it’s too late. Although VDOE said they are not removing HS advanced math courses, they are pushing equity education which is heterogeneous classrooms rather than ability grouping. It’s up to FCPS to continue acceleration.

Here is Terry McAuliffe equity education plan.

https://terrymcauliffe.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1.29.21-FINAL-Education-Plan-1.pdf

So, he doesn't care about advanced math, AAP and Honors, he is pushing equity education...

If they want equity they should try harder to get those kids to pass the current sol. FCPS is also pushing equity Ed so
curious how they will adjust when the new pathway is rolled out. I hope they don’t move to heterogeneous classroom for the lower grades.

[Anonymous]

Can we include a parent letter in this year’s appeal packet even if we already submitted the parent questionnaire with the original file? If so, does it count as one of the 5 work samples? Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

It also means no AAP during middle school but by then kids can pick honors classes.

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Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

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Anonymous wrote:Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

What would have been your recommendation to make it better? Genuinely curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

What would have been your recommendation to make it better? Genuinely curious.

Administer the freaking CogAT! Why couldn’t they get it together to do this basic step?