2021 AAP Admissions Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. 3rd
2. NNAT/COGAT: Don't remember from last year
3. GBRS: Unknown


In for Level IV for 4th Grade - notified by FCPS AAP. Currently doing Level III and Adv. Math. Referred by teacher and AART. Didn't take WISC.

Same boat!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So one kid with NNAT of 119 is in and another with NNAT of 140 is not in????????

What was the quality of the samples and the commentary from the school committee on the GRBS though? I think that makes a HUGE difference as NNAT is found to be the least reliable of the assessments related to AAP success.

And yet numerous studies show that NNAT has a very high correlation with academic achievement more generally and with IQ... so if NNAT is "not reliable to assess AAP success," to me that is more of a reflection on how AAP is conducted than the test itself

I'm the PP whose kid scored 119. We parent referred only b/c the AART strongly encouraged it and took care of the work samples.

Your guess is as good as mine.

Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily saying that your child doesn't belong in AAP. I'm only saying that I don't believe it should simultaneously be true that your child belongs in it and a 140 NNAT child does not.

Don't disagree, which is why I'm one of the posters who's been mostly baffled by the intensity of feelings on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not in. Anything other than the WISC good for appeals? Anyone look beyond George Mason for testing?

I just wrote a letter and included new work samples. Kid got in on appeals. In the letter, you need to very clearly make a case as to why your kid's needs cannot be met in gen ed and how your kid would thrive in AAP. Stay positive, and do not imply that the committee made a mistake, do not suggest that your kid is bored in gen ed, and don't waste time trying to prove that your kid is smarter than other kids.

[Anonymous]

Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT Score: 125
GBRS: Don't know.
We parent referred and sent 2 work samples that we could find. No idea what samples they included from the school.
IN full-time Level IV

[Anonymous]

IN


Current 2nd grade
139 NNAT
(file with appealing proof)
Grbs- no idea
Level II since 1st grade (Math)

[Anonymous]

IN

Grade - 02
COGAT - 128 (GMU since we missed the NNAT for DS)
GBRS - No idea
Report card - all 4s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both my kids are in Level IV so I have no chip on my shoulder, and I’m not sure how many of these posts are fake, but the idea that a kid got in with NNAT 119 and another got rejected with NNAT 140 is ABSURD. There should be no level of weight placed on a GBRS that can justify anywhere near that discrepancy. Absolutely embarrassing, and I assume just one more step toward eliminating any sense of meritocracy or achievement in our society. Congratulations America and FCPS

Absurd but not fake. Can tell you as a parent whose DC had 141 Cogat and 149 WISC who didn't get in last year.

[Anonymous]

2nd grade
NNAT 132
In!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So one kid with NNAT of 119 is in and another with NNAT of 140 is not in????????

What was the quality of the samples and the commentary from the school committee on the GRBS though? I think that makes a HUGE difference as NNAT is found to be the least reliable of the assessments related to AAP success.

And yet numerous studies show that NNAT has a very high correlation with academic achievement more generally and with IQ... so if NNAT is "not reliable to assess AAP success," to me that is more of a reflection on how AAP is conducted than the test itself

I'm the PP whose kid scored 119. We parent referred only b/c the AART strongly encouraged it and took care of the work samples.

Your guess is as good as mine.

Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily saying that your child doesn't belong in AAP. I'm only saying that I don't believe it should simultaneously be true that your child belongs in it and a 140 NNAT child does not.

Parent of child with NNAT 140. Decent work samples; DC is probably the youngest in class, October birthday. Had only 6 months in public school. KG in montessori, part of first grade in person, rest online. Don't know how that affected GBRS. I would like to think that race/ethnicity did not affect selection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So one kid with NNAT of 119 is in and another with NNAT of 140 is not in????????

Guys... the NNAT was taken in the first half of first grade. Presumably at that age there are some kids who struggle with the computer to take the test. There are some that don't quite grasp how to TAKE a test. This is why it may not be reflective of a child's actual intelligence 1.5 years later. My sense is this is why some kids with low NNATs were admitted. If there had been a CoGAT administered this year you probably would see many of these low-NNATers scoring well on the CoGAT. With some kids just barely six years old when the NNAT was administered, some of those kids are still just learning to take a test. Calm down.

[Anonymous]

I didn’t know they submit progress report to the committee. My 2nd grade teacher never gives my kid 4’s on test and quizzes even though she gets all the questions correct. So no 4’s on progress report either for core subjects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So one kid with NNAT of 119 is in and another with NNAT of 140 is not in????????

Guys... the NNAT was taken in the first half of first grade. Presumably at that age there are some kids who struggle with the computer to take the test. There are some that don't quite grasp how to TAKE a test. This is why it may not be reflective of a child's actual intelligence 1.5 years later. My sense is this is why some kids with low NNATs were admitted. If there had been a CoGAT administered this year you probably would see many of these low-NNATers scoring well on the CoGAT. With some kids just barely six years old when the NNAT was administered, some of those kids are still just learning to take a test. Calm down.

This. My kid has a September birthday and is the youngest kid in the class. Has an NNAT below the cutoff but would have likely done really well on CoGAT as their reading level is now very high.

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Anonymous wrote:So one kid with NNAT of 119 is in and another with NNAT of 140 is not in????????

Guys... the NNAT was taken in the first half of first grade. Presumably at that age there are some kids who struggle with the computer to take the test. There are some that don't quite grasp how to TAKE a test. This is why it may not be reflective of a child's actual intelligence 1.5 years later. My sense is this is why some kids with low NNATs were admitted. If there had been a CoGAT administered this year you probably would see many of these low-NNATers scoring well on the CoGAT. With some kids just barely six years old when the NNAT was administered, some of those kids are still just learning to take a test. Calm down.

Agreed. That explains the NNAT 119 kid getting in. But it doesn't explain the NNAT 140 kid being left out!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IN

3rd Grade
Level III
Adv Math
Adv Reading
4CO
Cogat 141
WISC 149

Same here, with high objective scores for a quiet kid last year (in pool for individual and composite scores with advanced math and advanced reading).

Acceptance email for next year received this morning with parent referral this year.

[Anonymous]

It also depends on the school. Some will have much lower NNAT scores getting in compared to your high achieving schools.