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03/09/2018 11:03

Subject: DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but, but... those clubs are now ECNL/DA...

As was written above, these clubs already demonstrated that they can compete now they want to remain competitive, which means that they have to maheve the same advantages as Bethesda, McLean and FCV.

From what I've heard from the ASA kids facing U13 next year, is that most of them want to stay on their respective teams and not do DA. Yes, they may try out, but many have other sports they love and don't want to give up for the crazy schedule. This U13 DA will likely pull kids from other areas to ASA, but not really interrupt the existing teams, except for a handful of girls.

If strong ASA kids are not going to play on their DA then the club will not draw much outside talent.

You under estimate the draw. Parents really want their kids to play DA. DA will be the top team. They will get the girls. Get three top girls from Arlington and one or two of the top girls from the surrounding clubs and you have a pretty good team. How many clubs are next to Arlington?

There are a lot of clubs around Arlington.

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03/09/2018 11:17

Subject: Re:DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Looks like ECNL is putting up a good fight. They have been announcing new member clubs one after another: Loudoun Soccer, Wilmington Hammerheads, Virginia Development Academy, Oklahoma Celtic...

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03/09/2018 12:19

Subject: Re:DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:Looks like ECNL is putting up a good fight. They have been announcing new member clubs one after another: Loudoun Soccer, Wilmington Hammerheads, Virginia Development Academy, Oklahoma Celtic...

The question is, when the DA announces their new clubs, how many will have been taken directly from ECNL?

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03/09/2018 12:22

Subject: DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but, but... those clubs are now ECNL/DA...

As was written above, these clubs already demonstrated that they can compete now they want to remain competitive, which means that they have to maheve the same advantages as Bethesda, McLean and FCV.

From what I've heard from the ASA kids facing U13 next year, is that most of them want to stay on their respective teams and not do DA. Yes, they may try out, but many have other sports they love and don't want to give up for the crazy schedule. This U13 DA will likely pull kids from other areas to ASA, but not really interrupt the existing teams, except for a handful of girls.

I am not sure you have any idea what you are talking about. Hold on though. Yep. I am sure. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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03/09/2018 12:23

Subject: DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but, but... those clubs are now ECNL/DA...

As was written above, these clubs already demonstrated that they can compete now they want to remain competitive, which means that they have to maheve the same advantages as Bethesda, McLean and FCV.

From what I've heard from the ASA kids facing U13 next year, is that most of them want to stay on their respective teams and not do DA. Yes, they may try out, but many have other sports they love and don't want to give up for the crazy schedule. This U13 DA will likely pull kids from other areas to ASA, but not really interrupt the existing teams, except for a handful of girls.

I am not sure you have any idea what you are talking about. Hold on though. Yep. I am sure. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Has Arlington announced the ID sessions? Anyone have the schedule?

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03/09/2018 13:07

Subject: DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but, but... those clubs are now ECNL/DA...

As was written above, these clubs already demonstrated that they can compete now they want to remain competitive, which means that they have to maheve the same advantages as Bethesda, McLean and FCV.

From what I've heard from the ASA kids facing U13 next year, is that most of them want to stay on their respective teams and not do DA. Yes, they may try out, but many have other sports they love and don't want to give up for the crazy schedule. This U13 DA will likely pull kids from other areas to ASA, but not really interrupt the existing teams, except for a handful of girls.

I am not sure you have any idea what you are talking about. Hold on though. Yep. I am sure. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Agreed, the parents may have other ideas for what is best for their daughters.

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03/09/2018 13:12

Subject: Re:DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Interesting article on DA vs ECNL:

"Shortly thereafter the Elite Club National League (ECNL) sprang up, arguably in response to the vacancy the US Soccer Federation left by not providing the same opportunity on the girls side. The ECNL quickly became ‘the’ place for the top girls clubs in the country to compete. Well intentioned, like many youth soccer entities, it morphed into a giant money-making, competition structure. Simply put, the organization’s self-interest didn’t align with the best interests of the players.

I’m sure there will be many who would argue this point, but in my opinion the ultimate litmus test occurred recently when US Soccer finally announced the start of the Development Academy on the girls side, slated for the fall of 2017. The timing of that announcement was incredibly telling. Less than a year from the US Women winning the World Cup, US Soccer unequivocally stated that player development on the girls side needed a significant overhaul. The ECNL now had a tough decision to make. They could support the Federation or compete with it. A meeting took place between the two organizations to discuss common ground and collaboration. I was not privy to that meeting, but shortly thereafter the ECNL did NOT announce its support and instead decided to expand the ECNL to the boys side. The message was clear, the lines had been drawn, pick your side.

This situation perfectly exemplifies why US Soccer needs to be involved in the development of our youth players. It can’t be about the power and money youth soccer entities are capable of generating. It can’t be about winning games and Got Soccer points. It needs to be about the girls and their growth as soccer players and people. Like the Boys Development Academy, the Girls Development Academy will have guidelines for the number of starts for each player and the number of trainings per week. The GDA will only allow only 1 match per day with matches occurring no more than 2 days in a row. They will set strict coaching license requirements for staff and they will charge nothing for showcase events. Every club will be observed and evaluated on a regular basis and US Soccer scouts will be in attendance regularly to find the next youth national team players. This is a development structure designed with the players in mind, (not a competition structure) and it is long overdue. The Development Academy programs on both sides and the new mandates for birth year age groups and small sided games are examples of US Soccer taking their rightful place as our sport’s governing body and taking responsibility for youth soccer in America. I for one am ecstatic."

http://empireunited.soccer/archived-news-articles/us-soccer-girls-development-academy-or-ecnl

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03/09/2018 21:22

Subject: DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

^ ASA parents can go nuts. Have you seen the soccer dads posting about the U9 tryouts on this Board each year? They videotape their f'ing players at tryouts. Relax and chill. DA at Arlington is awesome. No need to do it at U13 if you feel pressure. Stop reading these anonymous posts that don't count for squat and keep your eye on the prize. If you live in Arlington, you are so goddamn lucky that in 8th grade, when your DD maybe decides to go all in on soccer, that club will be there with that awesome option. Don't get caught up with the worry warts. Can you imagine how sh@tty is must be to be in Falls Church, McLean, Vienna, or Fairfax right now? Don't be sheep, figure out what is best and just do it. Play on the B team if that is what is going to make your DD love soccer in a few years. Good job to ASA for delivering, just because parents are worried or confused does not mean the sky is falling.

Sooooo ......... Play F'ing soccer and stop worrying about the league, team, or damn club. When the time comes, it is cool ASA stepped up and gave all of us beltway dwellers something better then ECNL. Man, you have no idea on that. I have heard no one in ASA say they are bummed over DA. Get real DCUM. DA is a huge feather. Parents stop worrying.

Not a coach.

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03/12/2018 11:35

Subject: Re:DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:
Interesting article on DA vs ECNL:

"Shortly thereafter the Elite Club National League (ECNL) sprang up, arguably in response to the vacancy the US Soccer Federation left by not providing the same opportunity on the girls side. The ECNL quickly became ‘the’ place for the top girls clubs in the country to compete. Well intentioned, like many youth soccer entities, it morphed into a giant money-making, competition structure. Simply put, the organization’s self-interest didn’t align with the best interests of the players.

I’m sure there will be many who would argue this point, but in my opinion the ultimate litmus test occurred recently when US Soccer finally announced the start of the Development Academy on the girls side, slated for the fall of 2017. The timing of that announcement was incredibly telling. Less than a year from the US Women winning the World Cup, US Soccer unequivocally stated that player development on the girls side needed a significant overhaul. The ECNL now had a tough decision to make. They could support the Federation or compete with it. A meeting took place between the two organizations to discuss common ground and collaboration. I was not privy to that meeting, but shortly thereafter the ECNL did NOT announce its support and instead decided to expand the ECNL to the boys side. The message was clear, the lines had been drawn, pick your side.

This situation perfectly exemplifies why US Soccer needs to be involved in the development of our youth players. It can’t be about the power and money youth soccer entities are capable of generating. It can’t be about winning games and Got Soccer points. It needs to be about the girls and their growth as soccer players and people. Like the Boys Development Academy, the Girls Development Academy will have guidelines for the number of starts for each player and the number of trainings per week. The GDA will only allow only 1 match per day with matches occurring no more than 2 days in a row. They will set strict coaching license requirements for staff and they will charge nothing for showcase events. Every club will be observed and evaluated on a regular basis and US Soccer scouts will be in attendance regularly to find the next youth national team players. This is a development structure designed with the players in mind, (not a competition structure) and it is long overdue. The Development Academy programs on both sides and the new mandates for birth year age groups and small sided games are examples of US Soccer taking their rightful place as our sport’s governing body and taking responsibility for youth soccer in America. I for one am ecstatic."

http://empireunited.soccer/archived-news-articles/us-soccer-girls-development-academy-or-ecnl

I actually see it as killing youth soccer in America.

US Soccer for years ignored the girls side -- focusing only on doing a poor job at "developing" boys. Say what you want -- then when the women's side had more success than the men's -- suddenly US Soccer cares? So they will make the women's team crappy just like the men's side? Really so ridiculous to think US Soccer needs to control development of all its players instead of supporting creativity across a range of clubs. Just like big government - too much control is never good.

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03/12/2018 12:59

Subject: Re:DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Interesting article on DA vs ECNL:

"Shortly thereafter the Elite Club National League (ECNL) sprang up, arguably in response to the vacancy the US Soccer Federation left by not providing the same opportunity on the girls side. The ECNL quickly became ‘the’ place for the top girls clubs in the country to compete. Well intentioned, like many youth soccer entities, it morphed into a giant money-making, competition structure. Simply put, the organization’s self-interest didn’t align with the best interests of the players.

I’m sure there will be many who would argue this point, but in my opinion the ultimate litmus test occurred recently when US Soccer finally announced the start of the Development Academy on the girls side, slated for the fall of 2017. The timing of that announcement was incredibly telling. Less than a year from the US Women winning the World Cup, US Soccer unequivocally stated that player development on the girls side needed a significant overhaul. The ECNL now had a tough decision to make. They could support the Federation or compete with it. A meeting took place between the two organizations to discuss common ground and collaboration. I was not privy to that meeting, but shortly thereafter the ECNL did NOT announce its support and instead decided to expand the ECNL to the boys side. The message was clear, the lines had been drawn, pick your side.

This situation perfectly exemplifies why US Soccer needs to be involved in the development of our youth players. It can’t be about the power and money youth soccer entities are capable of generating. It can’t be about winning games and Got Soccer points. It needs to be about the girls and their growth as soccer players and people. Like the Boys Development Academy, the Girls Development Academy will have guidelines for the number of starts for each player and the number of trainings per week. The GDA will only allow only 1 match per day with matches occurring no more than 2 days in a row. They will set strict coaching license requirements for staff and they will charge nothing for showcase events. Every club will be observed and evaluated on a regular basis and US Soccer scouts will be in attendance regularly to find the next youth national team players. This is a development structure designed with the players in mind, (not a competition structure) and it is long overdue. The Development Academy programs on both sides and the new mandates for birth year age groups and small sided games are examples of US Soccer taking their rightful place as our sport’s governing body and taking responsibility for youth soccer in America. I for one am ecstatic."

http://empireunited.soccer/archived-news-articles/us-soccer-girls-development-academy-or-ecnl

I actually see it as killing youth soccer in America.

US Soccer for years ignored the girls side -- focusing only on doing a poor job at "developing" boys. Say what you want -- then when the women's side had more success than the men's -- suddenly US Soccer cares? So they will make the women's team crappy just like the men's side? Really so ridiculous to think US Soccer needs to control development of all its players instead of supporting creativity across a range of clubs. Just like big government - too much control is never good.

+100

I couldn't agree more.

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03/12/2018 18:02

Subject: Re:DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Interesting article on DA vs ECNL:

"Shortly thereafter the Elite Club National League (ECNL) sprang up, arguably in response to the vacancy the US Soccer Federation left by not providing the same opportunity on the girls side. The ECNL quickly became ‘the’ place for the top girls clubs in the country to compete. Well intentioned, like many youth soccer entities, it morphed into a giant money-making, competition structure. Simply put, the organization’s self-interest didn’t align with the best interests of the players.

I’m sure there will be many who would argue this point, but in my opinion the ultimate litmus test occurred recently when US Soccer finally announced the start of the Development Academy on the girls side, slated for the fall of 2017. The timing of that announcement was incredibly telling. Less than a year from the US Women winning the World Cup, US Soccer unequivocally stated that player development on the girls side needed a significant overhaul. The ECNL now had a tough decision to make. They could support the Federation or compete with it. A meeting took place between the two organizations to discuss common ground and collaboration. I was not privy to that meeting, but shortly thereafter the ECNL did NOT announce its support and instead decided to expand the ECNL to the boys side. The message was clear, the lines had been drawn, pick your side.

This situation perfectly exemplifies why US Soccer needs to be involved in the development of our youth players. It can’t be about the power and money youth soccer entities are capable of generating. It can’t be about winning games and Got Soccer points. It needs to be about the girls and their growth as soccer players and people. Like the Boys Development Academy, the Girls Development Academy will have guidelines for the number of starts for each player and the number of trainings per week. The GDA will only allow only 1 match per day with matches occurring no more than 2 days in a row. They will set strict coaching license requirements for staff and they will charge nothing for showcase events. Every club will be observed and evaluated on a regular basis and US Soccer scouts will be in attendance regularly to find the next youth national team players. This is a development structure designed with the players in mind, (not a competition structure) and it is long overdue. The Development Academy programs on both sides and the new mandates for birth year age groups and small sided games are examples of US Soccer taking their rightful place as our sport’s governing body and taking responsibility for youth soccer in America. I for one am ecstatic."

http://empireunited.soccer/archived-news-articles/us-soccer-girls-development-academy-or-ecnl

I actually see it as killing youth soccer in America.

US Soccer for years ignored the girls side -- focusing only on doing a poor job at "developing" boys. Say what you want -- then when the women's side had more success than the men's -- suddenly US Soccer cares? So they will make the women's team crappy just like the men's side? Really so ridiculous to think US Soccer needs to control development of all its players instead of supporting creativity across a range of clubs. Just like big government - too much control is never good.

+100

I couldn't agree more.