FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC meetings on Aug 5th and Sept for latest maps

Updates on new changes

What were the top 3 BRAC priorities by Region and when will the new maps be out?

What are the top priorities and when do the maps get shared publicly?

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Has anyone seen the top 3 priorities for their region?

Nope, FCPS fails again. You could ask your BRAC rep directly, but I think many live under fear of the overly broad application of the NDA.

Why would an NDA cover priorities based on region comments? Public comments are online and priorities are meant to determine map changes

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC meetings on Aug 5th and Sept for latest maps

Updates on new changes

What were the top 3 BRAC priorities by Region and when will the new maps be out?

What are the top priorities and when do the maps get shared publicly?

+1

Has anyone seen the top 3 priorities for their region?

Nope, FCPS fails again. You could ask your BRAC rep directly, but I think many live under fear of the overly broad application of the NDA.

Why would an NDA cover priorities based on region comments? Public comments are online and priorities are meant to determine map changes[

Now, ask yourself: what happened when the BRAC member relayed to his/her FairFacts Matter group that one of the recommendations was to send Forestville to Herndon? I don't blame them, but people were immediately up in arms!

Now, imagine, say. that Region X decides to move elementary school A from high school A to high school B. But, the parents at elementary school A LOVE high school A and don't want to be moved to high school B which is further away.
What do you think will happen when elementary school A parents find out? Answer: exactly the same thing that happened with Forestville parents--but likely with different results.

They don't want people reacting yet.

I know my neighborhood has some very serious concerns and would love to know if any of the BRAC recommendations affect us. Our pyramid reps know nothing about my area. But, we don't have the funds to contribute to political campaigns that some areas do.

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC meetings on Aug 5th and Sept for latest maps

Updates on new changes

What were the top 3 BRAC priorities by Region and when will the new maps be out?

What are the top priorities and when do the maps get shared publicly?

+1

Has anyone seen the top 3 priorities for their region?

Nope, FCPS fails again. You could ask your BRAC rep directly, but I think many live under fear of the overly broad application of the NDA.

Why would an NDA cover priorities based on region comments? Public comments are online and priorities are meant to determine map changes[

Now, ask yourself: what happened when the BRAC member relayed to his/her FairFacts Matter group that one of the recommendations was to send Forestville to Herndon? I don't blame them, but people were immediately up in arms!

Now, imagine, say. that Region X decides to move elementary school A from high school A to high school B. But, the parents at elementary school A LOVE high school A and don't want to be moved to high school B which is further away.
What do you think will happen when elementary school A parents find out? Answer: exactly the same thing that happened with Forestville parents--but likely with different results.

They don't want people reacting yet.

I know my neighborhood has some very serious concerns and would love to know if any of the BRAC recommendations affect us. Our pyramid reps know nothing about my area. But, we don't have the funds to contribute to political campaigns that some areas do.

Yes, but the priorities are supposed to be based on public comments and all the public comments are available online for each region. So, the priorities should be available online too.

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC meetings on Aug 5th and Sept for latest maps

Updates on new changes

What were the top 3 BRAC priorities by Region and when will the new maps be out?

What are the top priorities and when do the maps get shared publicly?

+1

Has anyone seen the top 3 priorities for their region?

Nope, FCPS fails again. You could ask your BRAC rep directly, but I think many live under fear of the overly broad application of the NDA.

Why would an NDA cover priorities based on region comments? Public comments are online and priorities are meant to determine map changes[

Now, ask yourself: what happened when the BRAC member relayed to his/her FairFacts Matter group that one of the recommendations was to send Forestville to Herndon? I don't blame them, but people were immediately up in arms!

Now, imagine, say. that Region X decides to move elementary school A from high school A to high school B. But, the parents at elementary school A LOVE high school A and don't want to be moved to high school B which is further away.
What do you think will happen when elementary school A parents find out? Answer: exactly the same thing that happened with Forestville parents--but likely with different results.

They don't want people reacting yet.

I know my neighborhood has some very serious concerns and would love to know if any of the BRAC recommendations affect us. Our pyramid reps know nothing about my area. But, we don't have the funds to contribute to political campaigns that some areas do.

Yes, but the priorities are supposed to be based on public comments and all the public comments are available online for each region. So, the priorities should be available online too.

Oh, I agree. But, they don't want you to know because they don't want reaction. This whole thing is troubling.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

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It is ridiculous we don’t have a read out of the region priorities - these should be a summary of community feedback.

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous we don’t have a read out of the region priorities - these should be a summary of community feedback.

Agreed. Reid pretends to care about transparency but she doesn't practice it at all. She's such a failure.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

And in the 2016 CIP the Future Western HS was planned for 2021-2025, ahead of all those you just listed. It was also only projected to cost $120 million back then, but things change. It got pushed back when they lost the land to the Saudis for shady political reasons. Now that the land (and building) is available again it is back in its rightful place in the queue, where was planned all along.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

And in the 2016 CIP the Future Western HS was planned for 2021-2025, ahead of all those you just listed. It was also only projected to cost $120 million back then, but things change. It got pushed back when they lost the land to the Saudis for shady political reasons. Now that the land (and building) is available again it is back in its rightful place in the queue, where was planned all along.

DP. Obviously the most recent CIP is the one that guides current decisions, and a lot happened since 2016 to add capacity to other schools serving the western part of the county. The fact that the school kept getting pushed out itself demonstrates that the need has not been considered acute.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

And in the 2016 CIP the Future Western HS was planned for 2021-2025, ahead of all those you just listed. It was also only projected to cost $120 million back then, but things change. It got pushed back when they lost the land to the Saudis for shady political reasons. Now that the land (and building) is available again it is back in its rightful place in the queue, where was planned all along.

DP. Obviously the most recent CIP is the one that guides current decisions, and a lot happened since 2016 to add capacity to other schools serving the western part of the county. The fact that the school kept getting pushed out itself demonstrates that the need has not been considered acute.

The same was true when 2016 was the most recent CIP. It was only pushed out because the land was sold and they couldn't find another suitable location. The need was still there it just wasn't possible to build. A lot has changed since the 2023 CIP and the land is available again, so back to the top it goes!

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

And in the 2016 CIP the Future Western HS was planned for 2021-2025, ahead of all those you just listed. It was also only projected to cost $120 million back then, but things change. It got pushed back when they lost the land to the Saudis for shady political reasons. Now that the land (and building) is available again it is back in its rightful place in the queue, where was planned all along.

DP. Obviously the most recent CIP is the one that guides current decisions, and a lot happened since 2016 to add capacity to other schools serving the western part of the county. The fact that the school kept getting pushed out itself demonstrates that the need has not been considered acute.

The same was true when 2016 was the most recent CIP. It was only pushed out because the land was sold and they couldn't find another suitable location. The need was still there it just wasn't possible to build. A lot has changed since the 2023 CIP and the land is available again, so back to the top it goes!

Chantilly has no more space. Centreville is slated to get space in the future. Westfield is packed.
I don't know where you think all this space in the west is.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

My kids go to one of those schools and the school does not NEED a renovation. It could wait. I've seen worse schools that are total dumps that could use it more than our school but I don't think are even in the queue.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

My kids go to one of those schools and the school does not NEED a renovation. It could wait. I've seen worse schools that are total dumps that could use it more than our school but I don't think are even in the queue.

While some of them may need renovation, some of the schools and problems in them is just a matter of maintenance--or lack thereof.

We went to DH's high school reunion a while back. His school was built in the 1930's by WPA. It sparkled. I'm sure that over the years that some renovation has been done, but it was not remodeled or expanded. Obviously, flooring had been replaced and that type of thing, but mostly it was just maintained. A public school and not in an affluent area.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

My kids go to one of those schools and the school does not NEED a renovation. It could wait. I've seen worse schools that are total dumps that could use it more than our school but I don't think are even in the queue.

I am surprised that Sangster is on that list when there are other schools nearby within 30 minutes, such as Lewis, in much worse shape.

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Someone I know who works for FCPS was very skeptical that they would open KAA as a community high school, due to its smaller size. They seem to think that it would have to be a magnet school or similar. But we live in a neighborhood that could potentially be sent to KAA instead of Oakton and I think this person does not want that. So the skepticism may be a bit of wishful thinking on their part.

And, remember, there are two additional buildings included in the purchase that could be used. And, likely one reason KAA closed was because they were not filling the school. So, the school was built to accommodate more students than enrolled. While the school was not built to enroll over 2000, I'm sure adjustments could be made. The space is there and, again, there are two additional building that could be used. There does not appear to be anything else on Education Drive that would keep them from using that space. This is a good purchase!

They are installing security vestibules at schools all over FCPS to try and limit foot traffic in and out of the main buildings and also installing weapon detection systems at all MS/HS, and you’re telling us the vision for KAA is to turn it into a multi-building campus? It seems more likely the two other buildings will be used for administrative purposes.

So, again, it remains unclear how many 9-12 grade students can be accommodated at KAA without significant, additional expenditures.

Are they including the trailers in the "security vestibules?"

Suggest you drive over to KAA. It is entirely possible. The road is pretty secure. And, the buildings could be used for storage space, etc, Most high schools need space for theater and music storage, etc.

Sounds like the two buildings may turn out to be expensive garden sheds.

We get it. You don't want relief for this area students.. Do you really think all the space in a school is for instruction? Neverthel3ss, if kids can go to trailers, they could go to one of these buildings

The difference is they’ll tolerate existing trailers and modulars to some degree but less likely to create new situations where kids are attending classes in multiple buildings.

And, guess what? they are still adding trailers. Would you really prefer your kid in a trailer? Sad that you cannot be happy for neighborhoods that, hopefully will not face frequent boundary changes and long bus rides.

You shouldn’t accuse other people of a lack of empathy when this purchase means other capital projects will be delayed and other families will be redistricted to back-fill at least one of the schools that would send kids to a new school, assuming it’s a local school.

Other capital projects aren't being delayed, they just won't get to skip the western high school in the line as you were hoping they would.

According to FCPS website, the 2023 Bond referendum funding the "planning and design" phase at Cub Run ES, Union Mill ES, Centre Ridge ES, Poplar Tree ES, Waples Mill ES, Sangster ES, Saratoga ES, Virginia Run ES, and Franklin Middle School (MS). The pattern for the past decade or so has been consistent, the schools that get funded for "planning and design" one cycle get funded for the "construction" phase in the next cycle 2 years later. I don't see how they could possibly maintain that and still dedicate funding to acquiring and renovating KAA. Clearly some of those planned capital projects will now be delayed. The current CIP has the spending for a Western HS in the "Future Project Spending" column (post-FY2030). The Western High School is the project that presumably will be skipping forward in the line, per the CIP, while others from the 2023 bond cycle will now inevitably be delayed as a result.

My kids go to one of those schools and the school does not NEED a renovation. It could wait. I've seen worse schools that are total dumps that could use it more than our school but I don't think are even in the queue.

I am surprised that Sangster is on that list when there are other schools nearby within 30 minutes, such as Lewis, in much worse shape.

DP - I don’t know the condition of Sangster right now, maybe they’re anticipating more AAP kids and need to expand a little. My kids had camps or activities this summer and last at Newington Forest, Halley, Lorton Station, White Oaks, Laurel Hill, and Orange Hunt, and I have to say they were all in pretty good shape overall … except Orange Hunt, which felt like a rambling, crumbling husk in comparison. Peeling paint, holes in the ceiling tiles, flickering lights, the floors felt a little uneven in parts. Even the parking lot was covered in pot holes and overgrown with weeds. Maybe it got the cheap renos at the same time as Lewis and McLean.

The principal at my kid’s school said that facilities will come out and do minor work on the schools (extra mowing and landscaping was what she was specifically talking about) but that she had to stay on them and call basically every day until they showed up. So it’s yet another thing where it’s not standardized from school to school.