Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fourth Circuit denies the Government's attempt to appeal the district court's order (which essentially just repeated the SCOTUS order). Judge Wilkinson, a famously conservative judge who is a feeder judge for the conservatives on SCOTUS, lambasted the Trump regime:

"It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our
constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.
This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.
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“Facilitation” does not permit the admittedly erroneous deportation of an individual to the one country’s prisons that the withholding order forbids and, further, to do so in disregard of a court order that the government not so subtly spurns. “Facilitation” does not sanction the abrogation of habeas corpus through the transfer of custody to foreign detention centers in the manner attempted here. Allowing all this would “facilitate” foreign detention more than it would domestic return. It would reduce the rule of law to lawlessness and tarnish the very values for which Americans of diverse views and persuasions have always stood.
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The basic differences between the branches mandate a serious effort at mutual respect. The respect that courts must accord the Executive must be reciprocated by the Executive’s respect for the courts. Too often today this has not been the case, as calls for impeachment of judges for decisions the Executive disfavors and exhortations to disregard court orders sadly illustrate."

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf

EVERYONE go read this NOW. A beautifully argued defense of our checks and balances, and the requirement that the rule of law must prevail over all if our Constitutional republic is to continue.

[Anonymous]

For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

SCOTUS will rule again against the Trump administration

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

She absolutely did with her expansion of the definition of facilitate beyond its typical use in immigration aka dictating specific actions with the president of ES to effectuate his release, and for the court’s intrusive discovery mandates. Read the court docs - they are all online. District judge can’t force any specific engagement with a foreign power as per extensive case law.

[Anonymous]

Why didnt the judget tell el salavador to send him back, she thinks she can do anything. Why not order other foreign nations to do things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

She absolutely did with her expansion of the definition of facilitate beyond its typical use in immigration aka dictating specific actions with the president of ES to effectuate his release, and for the court’s intrusive discovery mandates. Read the court docs - they are all online. District judge can’t force any specific engagement with a foreign power as per extensive case law.

Read the 4th Circuit appellate decision. Wilkinson is a conservative Reagan appointee. The government got trashed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didnt the judget tell el salavador to send him back, she thinks she can do anything. Why not order other foreign nations to do things?

El Salvador can send him back the second they are asked to by the US government. He is not there as a Salvadoran citizen. He did not commit crimes in El Salvador. He is in the jail because he was sent there by the US government--and they are paying to keep him there. Apparently, the Salvadoran president is happy to house anyone the US sends to CECOT regardless of whether they have received due process or not. He jails his own people without due process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

She absolutely did with her expansion of the definition of facilitate beyond its typical use in immigration aka dictating specific actions with the president of ES to effectuate his release, and for the court’s intrusive discovery mandates. Read the court docs - they are all online. District judge can’t force any specific engagement with a foreign power as per extensive case law.

She didn’t at all. The government kept trying to get her to do that and she refused to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

She absolutely did with her expansion of the definition of facilitate beyond its typical use in immigration aka dictating specific actions with the president of ES to effectuate his release, and for the court’s intrusive discovery mandates. Read the court docs - they are all online. District judge can’t force any specific engagement with a foreign power as per extensive case law.

The Supreme Court said the Executive had to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.

What has Trump done to comply with that order?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

She absolutely did with her expansion of the definition of facilitate beyond its typical use in immigration aka dictating specific actions with the president of ES to effectuate his release, and for the court’s intrusive discovery mandates. Read the court docs - they are all online. District judge can’t force any specific engagement with a foreign power as per extensive case law.

The Supreme Court said the Executive had to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.

What has Trump done to comply with that order?

Read the case reports. The DOJ already outlined the streamlining they did on the US end if he appears at a port of entry. The whole battle is that the Judge is declaring that not good enough and wants Trump to act diplomatically. The executive is saying that’s out of bounds (not deferential to article 2 powers as spelled out by scotus) and filed an emergency stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those that don't want to read, DOJ loses again with another trip to the woodshed to be spanked.

Will this administration and its supporters ever concede the fact that Trump is NOT a king?

Sad irony is that the DOJ was once considered the world's greatest litigation firm. Today, it would get its a** handed to them by Jacoby and Myers.

SCOTUS determines this not the appeals court.

You are actually funny. So you’ll concede Trump is not king when the Supreme Court upholds the 4th circuit?

I never alleged Trump is king so not sure where you are getting that from. ? The point is that this is heading back to SCOTUS and doesn’t stop at the appeals court, the same one that lost at scotus for the AEA ruling among other times they have been overturned.

SCOTUS isn’t going to mandate that the president engage in specific foreign policy acts and report that to a district judge.

Good thing the judge didn’t require the president to engage in specific foreign policy acts then

She absolutely did with her expansion of the definition of facilitate beyond its typical use in immigration aka dictating specific actions with the president of ES to effectuate his release, and for the court’s intrusive discovery mandates. Read the court docs - they are all online. District judge can’t force any specific engagement with a foreign power as per extensive case law.

She didn’t at all. The government kept trying to get her to do that and she refused to.

Huh? The government is Trump. Your post makes no sense.