The Pitt, new HBO Max show w Noah Wyle

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

There are a few great examples of the medical providers' lived experience coming through to benefit their patients, or at least try to help beyond regular protocol and procedure. What you said about Collins is bang on. Also, Dr. King's understanding of what would help the autistic patient feel understood, the two providers who did street outreach catching the possible STI/trafficking situation, etc.

Also, Mohan immediately recognizing the signs of sickle cell in the patient who came in with the EMTs who thought she was faking or having a mental health break -- I don't know Mohan's ethnicity but she seemed to be aware of how racism played into misdiagnosis and how important it is for ER docs to understand the signs of sickle cell (which sounds insanely painful, wow.)

I also like how Collins was shown being particularly good and insightful on the obstetric cases, as she was dealing with her miscarriage. It would make perfect sense for a doctor trying to conceive to be very focused on the medical needs of pregnant and post party women. She is the one who caught the problem with the woman who'd given birth a week before that McKay missed (and pointed out to McKay that she might have overlooked this obvious explanation for her symptoms because the patient was obese). And then Collins was also really on top of the patient giving birth, reminding Robbie of technique in getting the baby's shoulder unstuck and doing an especially good job of focusing on both the needs if the mom and baby in a situation where people sometimes fixate in the baby and ignore the mom (spoken from experience).

In general I just like how the show portrays doctors using empathy and real world, nonmedical experience to not only support patients but to diagnose. I think this is something unique to emergency medicine. It's a specialty with very specific skills, but unlike a lot of other specialties, the doctors are generalists. They treat people with a very broad range issues, have to be able to diagnose quickly and choose a course of treatment fast. This makes it extra valuable to be empathetic and insightful about people. They aren't getting patients referred to them with issues already identified and histories already taken. They have to start from scratch with most of their patients (save the repeat customers like Louie and Myrna) but they also have to be careful not to make assumptions or give in to stereotypes. It's a really hard job.

After never having been to the ER as a patient before, I wound up going twice in the last year. One wonderful experience (as wonderful as that can be, at least), and one real nightmare. So I've been watching this show with that baggage, and I gotta say, I'd go to the Pitt anytime I needed an ER. They are good doctors.

I don’t like Collins but agree with this.

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

There are a few great examples of the medical providers' lived experience coming through to benefit their patients, or at least try to help beyond regular protocol and procedure. What you said about Collins is bang on. Also, Dr. King's understanding of what would help the autistic patient feel understood, the two providers who did street outreach catching the possible STI/trafficking situation, etc.

Just calling out (in a good way!) this comment re Collins and King’s lived experience helping others and the comment above it about Collins noting all the actual evidence re black patients’ health concerns often being treated dismissively in medical settings as excellent commentary that I agree with 100%. Thank you for your service! 🫡

What service?

Also, thank you to the poster who spelled out everyone’s names and roles specifically on page 28 — I have referred to that repeatedly in the comments I’ve made since then, ha!!

That's me! I'm glad my slightly obsessive attention to detail was helpful! And to the other PP, yes that is in order of seniority. I didn't mention that Robby is an Attending, attendings are ultimately responsible for outcomes and care.

Thanks for making that list!

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Isn’t it unrealistic that Langdon would be allowed back in given what Robby knows about his drug addiction?

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McKay and her ex don’t seem like a match at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

There are a few great examples of the medical providers' lived experience coming through to benefit their patients, or at least try to help beyond regular protocol and procedure. What you said about Collins is bang on. Also, Dr. King's understanding of what would help the autistic patient feel understood, the two providers who did street outreach catching the possible STI/trafficking situation, etc.

Also, Mohan immediately recognizing the signs of sickle cell in the patient who came in with the EMTs who thought she was faking or having a mental health break -- I don't know Mohan's ethnicity but she seemed to be aware of how racism played into misdiagnosis and how important it is for ER docs to understand the signs of sickle cell (which sounds insanely painful, wow.)

I also like how Collins was shown being particularly good and insightful on the obstetric cases, as she was dealing with her miscarriage. It would make perfect sense for a doctor trying to conceive to be very focused on the medical needs of pregnant and post party women. She is the one who caught the problem with the woman who'd given birth a week before that McKay missed (and pointed out to McKay that she might have overlooked this obvious explanation for her symptoms because the patient was obese). And then Collins was also really on top of the patient giving birth, reminding Robbie of technique in getting the baby's shoulder unstuck and doing an especially good job of focusing on both the needs if the mom and baby in a situation where people sometimes fixate in the baby and ignore the mom (spoken from experience).

In general I just like how the show portrays doctors using empathy and real world, nonmedical experience to not only support patients but to diagnose. I think this is something unique to emergency medicine. It's a specialty with very specific skills, but unlike a lot of other specialties, the doctors are generalists. They treat people with a very broad range issues, have to be able to diagnose quickly and choose a course of treatment fast. This makes it extra valuable to be empathetic and insightful about people. They aren't getting patients referred to them with issues already identified and histories already taken. They have to start from scratch with most of their patients (save the repeat customers like Louie and Myrna) but they also have to be careful not to make assumptions or give in to stereotypes. It's a really hard job.

After never having been to the ER as a patient before, I wound up going twice in the last year. One wonderful experience (as wonderful as that can be, at least), and one real nightmare. So I've been watching this show with that baggage, and I gotta say, I'd go to the Pitt anytime I needed an ER. They are good doctors.

Agree with you completely, but also want to point out that this is true for general pediatricians and family medicine providers as well, and urgent care. Most docs are actually in this position, albeit without the acuity. The acuity makes it murder.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it unrealistic that Langdon would be allowed back in given what Robby knows about his drug addiction?

I think the message here is 10% Robby not making the best decision because he is emotionally hanging by a thread, and 90% it's an enormous mass shooting so all rules and procedures are subject to suspension/revision

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just watched the episode. Intense. Robby’s breakdown at the end - heartbreaking. He worked so hard to save Leah and it was obvious it was a lost cause but he kept going. Dana as always was an amazing support. She even called Abbott over with her facial expeession bc Robby was in trouble emotionally.

I’m really starting to like Samira - she is becoming quick and self assured. Javadi is growing on me. Whitaker was so good with the woman with the upper thigh gunshot wound who was losing a lot of blood. So caring.

Santos - still dangerous and wildly unchecked. Going well for her now but I have a feeling her luck will run out one day and I’m here for it.

Langdon - great to see him back in action but puzzling because he was sent home due to drugs. The hospital could be liable if anything happens under his watch. Robby could be in trouble.

Dr. Collins - absent again and still didn’t miss her.

If there's anything I don't like about the show, it's that practicing dangerously and without experience/while high works out fine.

You do realize how realistic that is, right? Addiction rates in medical professionals are higher than average

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Anonymous wrote:McKay and her ex don’t seem like a match at all.

Agreed. Also, I wanted to smack ex's new gf, who is the definition of meddling trash.

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I’m still confused as to why McKay has the ankle bracelet and how it’s the ex’s new girlfriend’s fault.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused as to why McKay has the ankle bracelet and how it’s the ex’s new girlfriend’s fault.

The writers haven't told us -- we're not supposed to know.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused as to why McKay has the ankle bracelet and how it’s the ex’s new girlfriend’s fault.

The writers haven't told us -- we're not supposed to know.

It’s sort of a dumb storyline IMO.

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I wonder when the timing of the new season will pick up. I mean, I don’t think it will be the next day — I think some amount of time will have passed so that fallout from this 15 hours will have happened. A week? Maybe a month or two? I don’t think a year. Although that would age the actors appropriately lol.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still confused as to why McKay has the ankle bracelet and how it’s the ex’s new girlfriend’s fault.

In the early part of the season it seemed like it was related to her prior addiction, but she had an exchange with her ex that made it clear that he and ?Chloe have some sort of bogus restraining order/charge against McKay.

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Anonymous wrote:McKay and her ex don’t seem like a match at all.

Agreed. Also, I wanted to smack ex's new gf, who is the definition of meddling trash.

So does McKay, and I'm guessing she did smack her, thus the restraining order and ankle monitor.

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Why did MacKay’s ankle bracelet alarm go off? And, what did she do to make it stop?