The Pitt, new HBO Max show w Noah Wyle

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

There are a few great examples of the medical providers' lived experience coming through to benefit their patients, or at least try to help beyond regular protocol and procedure. What you said about Collins is bang on. Also, Dr. King's understanding of what would help the autistic patient feel understood, the two providers who did street outreach catching the possible STI/trafficking situation, etc.

Just calling out (in a good way!) this comment re Collins and King’s lived experience helping others and the comment above it about Collins noting all the actual evidence re black patients’ health concerns often being treated dismissively in medical settings as excellent commentary that I agree with 100%. Thank you for your service! 🫡

What service?

Just the service of writing those comments. The salute was meant figuratively not literally as if in military.

Is it possible that the guy who punched Dana will come back to shoot up the hospital? Not sure he could have gotten to the concert fast enough to shoot it up, but maybe that, too, if he left right away. (Do we know what he did for a living?)

Do we know for sure the troubled son didn’t shoot up the concert? We saw Robby go in to treat him but never saw what happened.

I do wonder if maybe Dr. Collins is having a medical issue following her miscarriage and will be brought back in via ambulance.

I also wonder if maybe Langdon will save Dr. Robby directly somehow over the remaining episodes, making the issue of reporting Langdon or not muddier for him

Also, thank you to the poster who spelled out everyone’s names and roles specifically on page 28 — I have referred to that repeatedly in the comments I’ve made since then, ha!!

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I really like Collins. I loved her in the scene with the black mom and her teenage boy, where the mom was so thrilled to have a competent black doctor who finally listened. I think Collins and McKay are both senior residents, but Collins seems much more competent and independent.

Collins and Langdon are/were Senior Residents, SloMo is a third year Resident, Mel and McKay are second year Residents, Santos is an intern, Whitaker is a fourth year med student and Javadi a third year med student.

I liked that scene so much too. Collins and McKay are both much older than their counterparts because they are coming from prior careers. But it makes sense that Collins is more competent and independent because she is two years further along.

Both looking forward to and dreading tonight.

Is this a list of seniority?

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Anonymous wrote:Whitaker introduced himself as Dr Whitaker

I figured that was just more of throwing protocol out the window in a crisis situation and trying to reassure patients they are getting adequate care.

Yeah I assumed that too. If he'd been like I'M A STUDENT I'd be like go find a doctor!

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

She has taken medical risks and succeeded, which has emboldened her to take more risks, not a good formula. She got Langdon right, but she was likely wrong about the father she threatened to murder, she may or may not have been right about the girl with the STD, she was the cause of the kid getting a concussion from being tacked by the police even though he was not likely the shooter. She's toxic.

The sex trafficked woman? That was McKay, not Santos.

Again last night, she took a risk with Whitaker's patient who was shot in the leg (hispanic woman, food table, couldn't stop bleeding). She was told to "do what she had to do", did it, got in trouble for not doing it with an attending, then was praised for saving the woman's life.

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I haven’t yet watched the episode but am looking forward to it!

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

There are a few great examples of the medical providers' lived experience coming through to benefit their patients, or at least try to help beyond regular protocol and procedure. What you said about Collins is bang on. Also, Dr. King's understanding of what would help the autistic patient feel understood, the two providers who did street outreach catching the possible STI/trafficking situation, etc.

Just calling out (in a good way!) this comment re Collins and King’s lived experience helping others and the comment above it about Collins noting all the actual evidence re black patients’ health concerns often being treated dismissively in medical settings as excellent commentary that I agree with 100%. Thank you for your service! 🫡

What service?

Also, thank you to the poster who spelled out everyone’s names and roles specifically on page 28 — I have referred to that repeatedly in the comments I’ve made since then, ha!!

That's me! I'm glad my slightly obsessive attention to detail was helpful! And to the other PP, yes that is in order of seniority. I didn't mention that Robby is an Attending, attendings are ultimately responsible for outcomes and care.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Collins' abortion lead to the miscarriage? In any case her suffering in silence while surrounded by the chaos of an active ER was one of the stronger plot lines. I expect her to return to finish her story for this season.

No. A past abortion does not cause miscarriages in future pregnancies. WTF?

Not always but I think that's what the show was implying.

No, these are supposed to be doctors, and this is a realistic show. They know better.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Collins' abortion lead to the miscarriage? In any case her suffering in silence while surrounded by the chaos of an active ER was one of the stronger plot lines. I expect her to return to finish her story for this season.

No. A past abortion does not cause miscarriages in future pregnancies. WTF?

Not always but I think that's what the show was implying.

No, these are supposed to be doctors, and this is a realistic show. They know better.

PS: the evidence is really clear on this.

https://www.uptodate.com/contents/abortion-pregnancy-termination-beyond-the-basics

MYTH: Abortion increases my chance of pregnancy loss (miscarriage) in the future.

FACT: Abortion does not increase the rush of pregnancy loss, preterm birth, or other complications with future pregnancies.

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Remember how Dr. Collins did an intubation of the sickle cell lady with Slo Mo reassured her that she didn’t take too long and she was actually doing a great job — and that Collins should be apologizing to *her* and that Slo Mo was a misnomer.

Also in episode 5 (I had forgotten this) we learn that Dr Robby put Langdon up for a prestigious scholarship or residency or something. Which must make the betrayal harder.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Collins' abortion lead to the miscarriage? In any case her suffering in silence while surrounded by the chaos of an active ER was one of the stronger plot lines. I expect her to return to finish her story for this season.

No. A past abortion does not cause miscarriages in future pregnancies. WTF?

Not always but I think that's what the show was implying.

What? No that is not what the show was implying. The show was implying that Collins was looking back and realizing that that might have been her only chance to have a child and she's wondering now if she did the right thing and also feeling guilty that she had an abortion without letting the Robby, who was clearly the father, (and also childless, so might also have feelings about a potential child he could have had) know.

The show is in no way implying that the abortion caused the miscarriage.

Sometimes I wonder how people with such bizarre, obviously insane notions and misreading of situations can navigate day-to-day living.

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Wow. Just watched the episode. Intense. Robby’s breakdown at the end - heartbreaking. He worked so hard to save Leah and it was obvious it was a lost cause but he kept going. Dana as always was an amazing support. She even called Abbott over with her facial expeession bc Robby was in trouble emotionally.

I’m really starting to like Samira - she is becoming quick and self assured. Javadi is growing on me. Whitaker was so good with the woman with the upper thigh gunshot wound who was losing a lot of blood. So caring.

Santos - still dangerous and wildly unchecked. Going well for her now but I have a feeling her luck will run out one day and I’m here for it.

Langdon - great to see him back in action but puzzling because he was sent home due to drugs. The hospital could be liable if anything happens under his watch. Robby could be in trouble.

Dr. Collins - absent again and still didn’t miss her.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just watched the episode. Intense. Robby’s breakdown at the end - heartbreaking. He worked so hard to save Leah and it was obvious it was a lost cause but he kept going. Dana as always was an amazing support. She even called Abbott over with her facial expeession bc Robby was in trouble emotionally.

I’m really starting to like Samira - she is becoming quick and self assured. Javadi is growing on me. Whitaker was so good with the woman with the upper thigh gunshot wound who was losing a lot of blood. So caring.

Santos - still dangerous and wildly unchecked. Going well for her now but I have a feeling her luck will run out one day and I’m here for it.

Langdon - great to see him back in action but puzzling because he was sent home due to drugs. The hospital could be liable if anything happens under his watch. Robby could be in trouble.

Dr. Collins - absent again and still didn’t miss her.

If there's anything I don't like about the show, it's that practicing dangerously and without experience/while high works out fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just watched the episode. Intense. Robby’s breakdown at the end - heartbreaking. He worked so hard to save Leah and it was obvious it was a lost cause but he kept going. Dana as always was an amazing support. She even called Abbott over with her facial expeession bc Robby was in trouble emotionally.

I’m really starting to like Samira - she is becoming quick and self assured. Javadi is growing on me. Whitaker was so good with the woman with the upper thigh gunshot wound who was losing a lot of blood. So caring.

Santos - still dangerous and wildly unchecked. Going well for her now but I have a feeling her luck will run out one day and I’m here for it.

Langdon - great to see him back in action but puzzling because he was sent home due to drugs. The hospital could be liable if anything happens under his watch. Robby could be in trouble.

Dr. Collins - absent again and still didn’t miss her.

If there's anything I don't like about the show, it's that practicing dangerously and without experience/while high works out fine.

+1 yeah I don’t like this. How is it possible that this keeps going so well?

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Anonymous wrote:How many Emmys is thing thing going to win?

Noah Wyle is a lock after her performance last night.

I usually don't care who wins Emmy's (I think it's political and not about what fans want anyway) but I would be shocked and disappointed if Noah Wylie doesn't win at this point. It's a virtuosic performance. Also just the perfect match of actor to material at the perfect time. And I do actually think it matters how much people are being moved by his performance, and find it so believable, including the many healthcare professionals who have weighed in on how well this show reflects their experience.

ER / ICU trauma nurse here — last night’s pure medical moments were 100% accurate

I could not believe that a mass audience show would actually feature the wonders of an emergency “crike” (cricothyrotomy).

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be hard to top this 12 hours in the second season, they'll have to kill of half of Pittsburgh. That's a lot of casualties for a lone shooter.

I'm not really sure if I bought Robby trying so hard to save that girl who was clearly gone or his step son blaming him for her death. I hate the redemption arc for Santos.

Why would Santos need a redemption arc? She’s proven to be extremely competent and caught out a doctor stealing drugs and working high.

Because she’s annoying?

More than annoying, she takes risks she's not authorized to take, she gives her co-workers unkind nicknames, and she's quick to accuse people of serious offenses with little proof. But the show keeps having her get vindicated for her actions.

She keeps succeeding, in other words.

For those who don't understand the importance of the scene with Collins and the black mother who was so relieved and thankful that someone finally listened and provided appropriate treatment, there is a ton of literature demonstrating that black patients are consistently treated dismissively in medical settings. The Pitt is trying to be a realistic show, and that is a realistic scene.

There are a few great examples of the medical providers' lived experience coming through to benefit their patients, or at least try to help beyond regular protocol and procedure. What you said about Collins is bang on. Also, Dr. King's understanding of what would help the autistic patient feel understood, the two providers who did street outreach catching the possible STI/trafficking situation, etc.

Also, Mohan immediately recognizing the signs of sickle cell in the patient who came in with the EMTs who thought she was faking or having a mental health break -- I don't know Mohan's ethnicity but she seemed to be aware of how racism played into misdiagnosis and how important it is for ER docs to understand the signs of sickle cell (which sounds insanely painful, wow.)

I also like how Collins was shown being particularly good and insightful on the obstetric cases, as she was dealing with her miscarriage. It would make perfect sense for a doctor trying to conceive to be very focused on the medical needs of pregnant and post party women. She is the one who caught the problem with the woman who'd given birth a week before that McKay missed (and pointed out to McKay that she might have overlooked this obvious explanation for her symptoms because the patient was obese). And then Collins was also really on top of the patient giving birth, reminding Robbie of technique in getting the baby's shoulder unstuck and doing an especially good job of focusing on both the needs if the mom and baby in a situation where people sometimes fixate in the baby and ignore the mom (spoken from experience).

In general I just like how the show portrays doctors using empathy and real world, nonmedical experience to not only support patients but to diagnose. I think this is something unique to emergency medicine. It's a specialty with very specific skills, but unlike a lot of other specialties, the doctors are generalists. They treat people with a very broad range issues, have to be able to diagnose quickly and choose a course of treatment fast. This makes it extra valuable to be empathetic and insightful about people. They aren't getting patients referred to them with issues already identified and histories already taken. They have to start from scratch with most of their patients (save the repeat customers like Louie and Myrna) but they also have to be careful not to make assumptions or give in to stereotypes. It's a really hard job.

After never having been to the ER as a patient before, I wound up going twice in the last year. One wonderful experience (as wonderful as that can be, at least), and one real nightmare. So I've been watching this show with that baggage, and I gotta say, I'd go to the Pitt anytime I needed an ER. They are good doctors.