Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tawdry street Spanish.

I got news for you- they say a whole lotta thinks in Naples Italy don’t belong in high school Italian.

You seem confused. No part of this conversation has anything to do with “street Spanish” (whatever that is) but rather with how the Spanish language is evolving to confront the reality of women’s rights and inclusiveness of non-binary people. PP was arguing that in her circle, no one cares about women’s or gender queer rights. Meanwhile, in the real world, many presidents of Spanish speaking countries, the highest officials responsible for human rights in every Spanish speaking country, organizations like the OAS, most academics, and the Academia Norteamericana de la Lengua Española care very much, and have written reams of articles about how to confront the issue, including detailed debates by prominent linguists about the pros and cons of os/as, the neutral “e”, and using “@“.

The weird tendency of DCUM posters to claim to be native Spanish speakers but clearly have no idea whatsoever about enormous social and political trends in the Spanish speaking world is so strange. I really suspect that these people are Anglo trolls claiming to be Spanish speakers in order to seem credible in their anti-woke crusade.

This is too funny.

The woke brigade trying to force Spanish speakers in the Latinx box is losing. Only 3-4% Hispanics like the term, the majority despises it...but the woke brigade, which is 99% anglo, now wants you to believe that the 96-97% Hispanics who don't like the term....we are "Anglo trolls."

Living in a bubble makes you lose sense of reality I guess.

Also, the poster quoting Fernandez as some kind of role model is quite funny too. A corrupt far-left politician making things worse for the vast majority of his compatriots and increasingly despised by his own party.

If I can bring this back to OP's initial message...if your kids have Spanish and French or whatever classes which includes these x nonsense, be suspicious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tawdry street Spanish.

I got news for you- they say a whole lotta thinks in Naples Italy don’t belong in high school Italian.

You seem confused. No part of this conversation has anything to do with “street Spanish” (whatever that is) but rather with how the Spanish language is evolving to confront the reality of women’s rights and inclusiveness of non-binary people. PP was arguing that in her circle, no one cares about women’s or gender queer rights. Meanwhile, in the real world, many presidents of Spanish speaking countries, the highest officials responsible for human rights in every Spanish speaking country, organizations like the OAS, most academics, and the Academia Norteamericana de la Lengua Española care very much, and have written reams of articles about how to confront the issue, including detailed debates by prominent linguists about the pros and cons of os/as, the neutral “e”, and using “@“.

The weird tendency of DCUM posters to claim to be native Spanish speakers but clearly have no idea whatsoever about enormous social and political trends in the Spanish speaking world is so strange. I really suspect that these people are Anglo trolls claiming to be Spanish speakers in order to seem credible in their anti-woke crusade.

This is too funny.

The woke brigade trying to force Spanish speakers in the Latinx box is losing. Only 3-4% Hispanics like the term, the majority despises it...but the woke brigade, which is 99% anglo, now wants you to believe that the 96-97% Hispanics who don't like the term....we are "Anglo trolls."

Living in a bubble makes you lose sense of reality I guess.

Also, the poster quoting Fernandez as some kind of role model is quite funny too. A corrupt far-left politician making things worse for the vast majority of his compatriots and increasingly despised by his own party.

If I can bring this back to OP's initial message...if your kids have Spanish and French or whatever classes which includes these x nonsense, be suspicious.

You have no awareness whatsoever of what's going on in government and academia in the Spanish speaking world and you don't seem to understand how the Spanish language works, so yeah, I think you're an Anglo troll whose understanding is limited to "X is bad". Go back to watching Fox news and fretting about immigrants taking your job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tawdry street Spanish.

I got news for you- they say a whole lotta thinks in Naples Italy don’t belong in high school Italian.

Most of Italy makes fun of the Napoli accent. It’s the rolling spaghetti accent dialect

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I believe in diversity and equity. The way it is pushed these days is more like a religion where other opinions are not allowed (look at the Hamline University debacle.. I am muslim and every muslim I know thinks what happens is insane). I am a person who is an admirer of Edward Said's book Orientalism as well as the People's History of the United States. I am Arab so am staunchly anti-imperialist. But I think schools have gone overboard. Also there is very little critique of class. I get it - they are private schools. But it is hypocritical to be pushing all of this and ignore the class aspect.

My kids are young - Kindergarten and first grade so they haven't been exposed to a lot of this yet. But I am worried that there is some indoctrination going on.

You are not wrong. They are being indoctrinated!!

And it’s bad in the public schools too. My 1st grader is being exposed to books where the prince gets French kissed by a male
Knight and carried off like a simpering princess. It’s just a joke. I wasn’t indoctrinated as a child and am a huge supporter of LGBTQ rights although after creepy freaky Dylan Mulvaney I might drop the T from that list bc it’s just becoming sad and horrifying.

The truth is you need to stay on top of it whether private or public and use your voice. Stop letting our kids be indoctrinated by the woke mob!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tawdry street Spanish.

I got news for you- they say a whole lotta thinks in Naples Italy don’t belong in high school Italian.

You seem confused. No part of this conversation has anything to do with “street Spanish” (whatever that is) but rather with how the Spanish language is evolving to confront the reality of women’s rights and inclusiveness of non-binary people. PP was arguing that in her circle, no one cares about women’s or gender queer rights. Meanwhile, in the real world, many presidents of Spanish speaking countries, the highest officials responsible for human rights in every Spanish speaking country, organizations like the OAS, most academics, and the Academia Norteamericana de la Lengua Española care very much, and have written reams of articles about how to confront the issue, including detailed debates by prominent linguists about the pros and cons of os/as, the neutral “e”, and using “@“.

The weird tendency of DCUM posters to claim to be native Spanish speakers but clearly have no idea whatsoever about enormous social and political trends in the Spanish speaking world is so strange. I really suspect that these people are Anglo trolls claiming to be Spanish speakers in order to seem credible in their anti-woke crusade.

This is too funny.

The woke brigade trying to force Spanish speakers in the Latinx box is losing. Only 3-4% Hispanics like the term, the majority despises it...but the woke brigade, which is 99% anglo, now wants you to believe that the 96-97% Hispanics who don't like the term....we are "Anglo trolls."

Living in a bubble makes you lose sense of reality I guess.

Also, the poster quoting Fernandez as some kind of role model is quite funny too. A corrupt far-left politician making things worse for the vast majority of his compatriots and increasingly despised by his own party.

If I can bring this back to OP's initial message...if your kids have Spanish and French or whatever classes which includes these x nonsense, be suspicious.

You have no awareness whatsoever of what's going on in government and academia in the Spanish speaking world and you don't seem to understand how the Spanish language works, so yeah, I think you're an Anglo troll whose understanding is limited to "X is bad". Go back to watching Fox news and fretting about immigrants taking your job.

Different PP and a native Spanish speaker born in Latin America. It’s not quite as easy in Spanish to just have gender neutral pronouns. In English, you can just change the pronouns and it doesn’t affect the verbs used. In Spanish as in many Romance languages, changing the pronouns means you change the verbs too. And I have a family member who works in the Real Academia and it’s very complicated. It’s a choice between butchering a language and appeasing a small segment of the population to try and be inclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I believe in diversity and equity. The way it is pushed these days is more like a religion where other opinions are not allowed (look at the Hamline University debacle.. I am muslim and every muslim I know thinks what happens is insane). I am a person who is an admirer of Edward Said's book Orientalism as well as the People's History of the United States. I am Arab so am staunchly anti-imperialist. But I think schools have gone overboard. Also there is very little critique of class. I get it - they are private schools. But it is hypocritical to be pushing all of this and ignore the class aspect.

My kids are young - Kindergarten and first grade so they haven't been exposed to a lot of this yet. But I am worried that there is some indoctrination going on.

Harsh question: Why should someone who claims to be “from a foreign background “ and from a religion that hardly represents a common viewpoint in the US expect to “fit in” — or even want to “fit in”? Surely you must realize that it’s the culture and values behind what you deem “wokeness” that has given you and your kids not just the chance of fitting in, but of being accepted at all by schools and universities that, not too long ago, we’re almost exclusively white, male, American, and, in many cases aggressively Christian?

Such a good response! You sound dim OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tawdry street Spanish.

I got news for you- they say a whole lotta thinks in Naples Italy don’t belong in high school Italian.

You seem confused. No part of this conversation has anything to do with “street Spanish” (whatever that is) but rather with how the Spanish language is evolving to confront the reality of women’s rights and inclusiveness of non-binary people. PP was arguing that in her circle, no one cares about women’s or gender queer rights. Meanwhile, in the real world, many presidents of Spanish speaking countries, the highest officials responsible for human rights in every Spanish speaking country, organizations like the OAS, most academics, and the Academia Norteamericana de la Lengua Española care very much, and have written reams of articles about how to confront the issue, including detailed debates by prominent linguists about the pros and cons of os/as, the neutral “e”, and using “@“.

The weird tendency of DCUM posters to claim to be native Spanish speakers but clearly have no idea whatsoever about enormous social and political trends in the Spanish speaking world is so strange. I really suspect that these people are Anglo trolls claiming to be Spanish speakers in order to seem credible in their anti-woke crusade.

This is too funny.

The woke brigade trying to force Spanish speakers in the Latinx box is losing. Only 3-4% Hispanics like the term, the majority despises it...but the woke brigade, which is 99% anglo, now wants you to believe that the 96-97% Hispanics who don't like the term....we are "Anglo trolls."

Living in a bubble makes you lose sense of reality I guess.

Also, the poster quoting Fernandez as some kind of role model is quite funny too. A corrupt far-left politician making things worse for the vast majority of his compatriots and increasingly despised by his own party.

If I can bring this back to OP's initial message...if your kids have Spanish and French or whatever classes which includes these x nonsense, be suspicious.

You have no awareness whatsoever of what's going on in government and academia in the Spanish speaking world and you don't seem to understand how the Spanish language works, so yeah, I think you're an Anglo troll whose understanding is limited to "X is bad". Go back to watching Fox news and fretting about immigrants taking your job.

Different PP and a native Spanish speaker born in Latin America. It’s not quite as easy in Spanish to just have gender neutral pronouns. In English, you can just change the pronouns and it doesn’t affect the verbs used. In Spanish as in many Romance languages, changing the pronouns means you change the verbs too. And I have a family member who works in the Real Academia and it’s very complicated. It’s a choice between butchering a language and appeasing a small segment of the population to try and be inclusive.

I think the point is that it it’s reasonable to teach kids in elite private schools that this ongoing discussion about the evolution of the language is going on. I doubt there is any school at all that is teaching that -e is how Spanish is spoken, but I’d hope that the upper level classes have a discussion of the subject generally. It seems ignorant to not teach what the Spanish Academy is extensively discussing.

[Anonymous]

Check out The Heights School in Potomac/Bethesda if you have a son. Zero wokeness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I believe in diversity and equity. The way it is pushed these days is more like a religion where other opinions are not allowed (look at the Hamline University debacle.. I am muslim and every muslim I know thinks what happens is insane). I am a person who is an admirer of Edward Said's book Orientalism as well as the People's History of the United States. I am Arab so am staunchly anti-imperialist. But I think schools have gone overboard. Also there is very little critique of class. I get it - they are private schools. But it is hypocritical to be pushing all of this and ignore the class aspect.

My kids are young - Kindergarten and first grade so they haven't been exposed to a lot of this yet. But I am worried that there is some indoctrination going on.

You are not wrong. They are being indoctrinated!!

And it’s bad in the public schools too. My 1st grader is being exposed to books where the prince gets French kissed by a male
Knight and carried off like a simpering princess. It’s just a joke. I wasn’t indoctrinated as a child and am a huge supporter of LGBTQ rights although after creepy freaky Dylan Mulvaney I might drop the T from that list bc it’s just becoming sad and horrifying.

The truth is you need to stay on top of it whether private or public and use your voice. Stop letting our kids be indoctrinated by the woke mob!!

nothing about your comment leads me to believe you are a huge supporter of LGBTQ rights. simpering princess? creepy freaky?? people going through transition are sad and horrifying? I hope the people in my life who tell me they support my same-sex family aren't secretly harboring these thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tawdry street Spanish.

I got news for you- they say a whole lotta thinks in Naples Italy don’t belong in high school Italian.

You seem confused. No part of this conversation has anything to do with “street Spanish” (whatever that is) but rather with how the Spanish language is evolving to confront the reality of women’s rights and inclusiveness of non-binary people. PP was arguing that in her circle, no one cares about women’s or gender queer rights. Meanwhile, in the real world, many presidents of Spanish speaking countries, the highest officials responsible for human rights in every Spanish speaking country, organizations like the OAS, most academics, and the Academia Norteamericana de la Lengua Española care very much, and have written reams of articles about how to confront the issue, including detailed debates by prominent linguists about the pros and cons of os/as, the neutral “e”, and using “@“.

The weird tendency of DCUM posters to claim to be native Spanish speakers but clearly have no idea whatsoever about enormous social and political trends in the Spanish speaking world is so strange. I really suspect that these people are Anglo trolls claiming to be Spanish speakers in order to seem credible in their anti-woke crusade.

This is too funny.

The woke brigade trying to force Spanish speakers in the Latinx box is losing. Only 3-4% Hispanics like the term, the majority despises it...but the woke brigade, which is 99% anglo, now wants you to believe that the 96-97% Hispanics who don't like the term....we are "Anglo trolls."

Living in a bubble makes you lose sense of reality I guess.

Also, the poster quoting Fernandez as some kind of role model is quite funny too. A corrupt far-left politician making things worse for the vast majority of his compatriots and increasingly despised by his own party.

If I can bring this back to OP's initial message...if your kids have Spanish and French or whatever classes which includes these x nonsense, be suspicious.

You have no awareness whatsoever of what's going on in government and academia in the Spanish speaking world and you don't seem to understand how the Spanish language works, so yeah, I think you're an Anglo troll whose understanding is limited to "X is bad". Go back to watching Fox news and fretting about immigrants taking your job.

Different PP and a native Spanish speaker born in Latin America. It’s not quite as easy in Spanish to just have gender neutral pronouns. In English, you can just change the pronouns and it doesn’t affect the verbs used. In Spanish as in many Romance languages, changing the pronouns means you change the verbs too. And I have a family member who works in the Real Academia and it’s very complicated. It’s a choice between butchering a language and appeasing a small segment of the population to try and be inclusive.

Wokes love butchering anything they can. Most Spanish-speakers oppose the Latinx thing and related nonsense because it just doesn't work in Spanish, but do you think wokes care? They don't, they just make things up. It's some kind of mental delusion, like the poster above accussing an obvious Spanish-speaker (perhaps Argentinian given knowledge about Fernandez' corruption?) of being a Fox-viewer "anglo troll."

Dime de que presumes...

[Anonymous]

LOL at anyone using the word “woke” like it’s a bad thing. Do you realize how backward you sound? Move to Florida or Hungary or something where you’ll fit in with the mouth breathers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Check out The Heights School in Potomac/Bethesda if you have a son. Zero wokeness.

and 100% toxic masculinity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL at anyone using the word “woke” like it’s a bad thing. Do you realize how backward you sound? Move to Florida or Hungary or something where you’ll fit in with the mouth breathers.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL at anyone using the word “woke” like it’s a bad thing. Do you realize how backward you sound? Move to Florida or Hungary or something where you’ll fit in with the mouth breathers.

I was thinking the same thing.

This is so offensive to all that raise their children to value someone for their character and nothing else.

You sit in your little palace and you judge people for not being "woke" while your kids attend a 35k+ year school. If you care so much about equity, how much have you donated to sponsor a kid at school? If you care so much about DEI, how many hours have you spent at a soup kitchen or community center helping that diamond in a rough kid get to that next step because all they need is to know that you, or someone believes in them?

If you answered " no" to any of the above, then STFU you hypocrite.

And no, I don't breathe out of my mouth but I also don't judge who do.
Shame on you. I'm embarrassed for.you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL at anyone using the word “woke” like it’s a bad thing. Do you realize how backward you sound? Move to Florida or Hungary or something where you’ll fit in with the mouth breathers.

I was thinking the same thing.

This is so offensive to all that raise their children to value someone for their character and nothing else.

You sit in your little palace and you judge people for not being "woke" while your kids attend a 35k+ year school. If you care so much about equity, how much have you donated to sponsor a kid at school? If you care so much about DEI, how many hours have you spent at a soup kitchen or community center helping that diamond in a rough kid get to that next step because all they need is to know that you, or someone believes in them?

If you answered " no" to any of the above, then STFU you hypocrite.

And no, I don't breathe out of my mouth but I also don't judge who do.
Shame on you. I'm embarrassed for.you.

well said