BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, it’s the concerns about long lasting damage that gets me concerned.

Same. And it’s the potential quieter vascular and neurological issues that most concern me. Having a “mild” covid experience that is causing deeper internal damage. I’m less concerned about a week of discomfort, this stuff wreaks havoc in so many other ways. Prefer to avoid.

That's what the fear mongers make you believe, but there is actually no evidence that it is a concern in the average mild infection in a healthy person.

I heard an interview on a news bit on TV, where the reporter was interviewing a BBQ chef. She said, "Tell me about the wings. Is that a different cooking?" And he said, "Yeah, it's a different cooking." WTH. I really think stumbling over basic language is a post-COVID symptom. My otherwise healthy young adult and teen kids are having a hard time coughing up simple words, too.

I know people use anecdotes all the time to try to corroborate theories that can only be corroborated by data, but this one takes the cake in terms of stupidity and irrelevance.

NP. I had a mild case of covid in May and have had trouble with word recall and aphasia since then. I hate it. And I'm a bit scared.

If you actually have aphasia, you should see a neurologist. it's a symptom of stroke. But i'm guessing youre just exaggerating.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

What do you mean by "they can find alternatives"? They shouldn't ride the train? I don't think that's a fair suggestion given the current guidance. I think you are the one who needs to get herself a really tight-fitting N95 and stop worrying what other people do. That's what the CDC says.

Oh hey yeah I wear one of those. But I see people coughing all over the train that are not wearing anything at all. And wiping their hands all over those seats. It’s a fabulous experience highly recommend! You can call it anxiety but the truth as people are disgusting. We were nasty vectors before Covid and Covid certainly is not enhancing the situation. Be gross, be you.

PP you are responding to. If I had symptoms, I would totally wear a mask if for some reason I had to ride the train anyway. If I could I would stay home. But I am not wearing a mask when I have no symptoms at all, not even if I was "exposed" by someone other than a household member. It's very unlikely, verging on impossible, for you to catch Covid from an asymptomatic person if you are wearing a well-fitted N95.

This is reasonable. Folks making flake and statements are not. Thank you for being conscientious.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

Both of the bolded above are ignorant statements based on your personal experience, and a lack of imagination about others.

I take a train to work every day and it is the only way to get there (I do not own a car). The train takes 40-60 minutes. I also have to mask at work. Wearing a mask on the train means wearing a mask for 10 hours a day, plus unlike at work, on the train it is hard to take a break if I need one. At work I can go outside for a few minutes. On the train I can maybe go in the bathroom, but if the issues is needing fresh air, this doesn't help!

What I do is look for the emptiest car I can and sit as far from other people as I can, so that I can sit without my mask. If this isn't possible, I will wear a mask. And of course if I have symptoms I wear a mask, even if my Covid test is negative. But especially during my commute at the end of the day, my mask fatigue is real and intense, and when they finally lifted the mandate for masking on the train, it was such a relief to finally be able to take it off when I wanted to, when I had no symptoms.

I also test weekly (PCR) for work, so it's not like I'm being cavalier. And the thing is, I'm not even that worried about getting Covid (triple vaxxed, young and healthy) but I don't want to give it to anyone I work with or my family. I'm very cautious in general, but I do take a calculated risk on the train because from a mental health standpoint, I am at my max and can't do it anymore.

This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

I’m the person you’re responding to. I also have to work in person have been working in person and have been wearing an N95 for very long days. Plus my job is physical it’s not a desk job. I work in a health clinic. While I appreciate your perspective it is assuming much.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

Both of the bolded above are ignorant statements based on your personal experience, and a lack of imagination about others.

I take a train to work every day and it is the only way to get there (I do not own a car). The train takes 40-60 minutes. I also have to mask at work. Wearing a mask on the train means wearing a mask for 10 hours a day, plus unlike at work, on the train it is hard to take a break if I need one. At work I can go outside for a few minutes. On the train I can maybe go in the bathroom, but if the issues is needing fresh air, this doesn't help!

What I do is look for the emptiest car I can and sit as far from other people as I can, so that I can sit without my mask. If this isn't possible, I will wear a mask. And of course if I have symptoms I wear a mask, even if my Covid test is negative. But especially during my commute at the end of the day, my mask fatigue is real and intense, and when they finally lifted the mandate for masking on the train, it was such a relief to finally be able to take it off when I wanted to, when I had no symptoms.

I also test weekly (PCR) for work, so it's not like I'm being cavalier. And the thing is, I'm not even that worried about getting Covid (triple vaxxed, young and healthy) but I don't want to give it to anyone I work with or my family. I'm very cautious in general, but I do take a calculated risk on the train because from a mental health standpoint, I am at my max and can't do it anymore.

This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

I’m the person you’re responding to. I also have to work in person have been working in person and have been wearing an N95 for very long days. Plus my job is physical it’s not a desk job. I work in a health clinic. While I appreciate your perspective it is assuming much.

I also have to take public transportation every day.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

Both of the bolded above are ignorant statements based on your personal experience, and a lack of imagination about others.

I take a train to work every day and it is the only way to get there (I do not own a car). The train takes 40-60 minutes. I also have to mask at work. Wearing a mask on the train means wearing a mask for 10 hours a day, plus unlike at work, on the train it is hard to take a break if I need one. At work I can go outside for a few minutes. On the train I can maybe go in the bathroom, but if the issues is needing fresh air, this doesn't help!

What I do is look for the emptiest car I can and sit as far from other people as I can, so that I can sit without my mask. If this isn't possible, I will wear a mask. And of course if I have symptoms I wear a mask, even if my Covid test is negative. But especially during my commute at the end of the day, my mask fatigue is real and intense, and when they finally lifted the mandate for masking on the train, it was such a relief to finally be able to take it off when I wanted to, when I had no symptoms.

I also test weekly (PCR) for work, so it's not like I'm being cavalier. And the thing is, I'm not even that worried about getting Covid (triple vaxxed, young and healthy) but I don't want to give it to anyone I work with or my family. I'm very cautious in general, but I do take a calculated risk on the train because from a mental health standpoint, I am at my max and can't do it anymore.

This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

I’m the person you’re responding to. I also have to work in person have been working in person and have been wearing an N95 for very long days. Plus my job is physical it’s not a desk job. I work in a health clinic. While I appreciate your perspective it is assuming much.

I also have to take public transportation every day.

I also appreciate your careful consideration when things come up where you’re unsure of your Covid status. Thank you for your response. It’s far more balanced than many of the things people are posting from home.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

Both of the bolded above are ignorant statements based on your personal experience, and a lack of imagination about others.

I take a train to work every day and it is the only way to get there (I do not own a car). The train takes 40-60 minutes. I also have to mask at work. Wearing a mask on the train means wearing a mask for 10 hours a day, plus unlike at work, on the train it is hard to take a break if I need one. At work I can go outside for a few minutes. On the train I can maybe go in the bathroom, but if the issues is needing fresh air, this doesn't help!

What I do is look for the emptiest car I can and sit as far from other people as I can, so that I can sit without my mask. If this isn't possible, I will wear a mask. And of course if I have symptoms I wear a mask, even if my Covid test is negative. But especially during my commute at the end of the day, my mask fatigue is real and intense, and when they finally lifted the mandate for masking on the train, it was such a relief to finally be able to take it off when I wanted to, when I had no symptoms.

I also test weekly (PCR) for work, so it's not like I'm being cavalier. And the thing is, I'm not even that worried about getting Covid (triple vaxxed, young and healthy) but I don't want to give it to anyone I work with or my family. I'm very cautious in general, but I do take a calculated risk on the train because from a mental health standpoint, I am at my max and can't do it anymore.

This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

The real problem is just pulling fake facts out of your ass and then pretending that's the argument you're fighting. I work in a school. Kids whose parents send them to school even though they're sick and coughing crowd around me every day. I wear a mask even though really masks are meant to protect others, not me. But that's all I can do.

I am not at home all day. I am out there being coughed on. I wear a mask even though it sucks. If I can do it, so can everyone else. Not that big a deal, PP.

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This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

"Inhumane?" You have quite a low threshold for things not being exactly the way you want them and to your utmost comfort. I can work from home about half of the time. However, my husband has to go to work in person all day every day, and my child has to go to school every day (and then to an afterschool volunteer position 3 days per week). They both wear masks the entire time. It's a mild inconvenience, not "inhumane."

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, it’s the concerns about long lasting damage that gets me concerned.

Same. And it’s the potential quieter vascular and neurological issues that most concern me. Having a “mild” covid experience that is causing deeper internal damage. I’m less concerned about a week of discomfort, this stuff wreaks havoc in so many other ways. Prefer to avoid.

That's what the fear mongers make you believe, but there is actually no evidence that it is a concern in the average mild infection in a healthy person.

I heard an interview on a news bit on TV, where the reporter was interviewing a BBQ chef. She said, "Tell me about the wings. Is that a different cooking?" And he said, "Yeah, it's a different cooking." WTH. I really think stumbling over basic language is a post-COVID symptom. My otherwise healthy young adult and teen kids are having a hard time coughing up simple words, too.

I know people use anecdotes all the time to try to corroborate theories that can only be corroborated by data, but this one takes the cake in terms of stupidity and irrelevance.

NP. I had a mild case of covid in May and have had trouble with word recall and aphasia since then. I hate it. And I'm a bit scared.

If you actually have aphasia, you should see a neurologist. it's a symptom of stroke. But i'm guessing youre just exaggerating.

Yes, I know that, or stroke or other issues. That's why I'm pretty concerned.

Thanks for your sympathy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

What do you mean by "they can find alternatives"? They shouldn't ride the train? I don't think that's a fair suggestion given the current guidance. I think you are the one who needs to get herself a really tight-fitting N95 and stop worrying what other people do. That's what the CDC says.

Last time I checked you get Covid from someone else so yes, what others do is important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

Both of the bolded above are ignorant statements based on your personal experience, and a lack of imagination about others.

I take a train to work every day and it is the only way to get there (I do not own a car). The train takes 40-60 minutes. I also have to mask at work. Wearing a mask on the train means wearing a mask for 10 hours a day, plus unlike at work, on the train it is hard to take a break if I need one. At work I can go outside for a few minutes. On the train I can maybe go in the bathroom, but if the issues is needing fresh air, this doesn't help!

What I do is look for the emptiest car I can and sit as far from other people as I can, so that I can sit without my mask. If this isn't possible, I will wear a mask. And of course if I have symptoms I wear a mask, even if my Covid test is negative. But especially during my commute at the end of the day, my mask fatigue is real and intense, and when they finally lifted the mandate for masking on the train, it was such a relief to finally be able to take it off when I wanted to, when I had no symptoms.

I also test weekly (PCR) for work, so it's not like I'm being cavalier. And the thing is, I'm not even that worried about getting Covid (triple vaxxed, young and healthy) but I don't want to give it to anyone I work with or my family. I'm very cautious in general, but I do take a calculated risk on the train because from a mental health standpoint, I am at my max and can't do it anymore.

This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

The real problem is just pulling fake facts out of your ass and then pretending that's the argument you're fighting. I work in a school. Kids whose parents send them to school even though they're sick and coughing crowd around me every day. I wear a mask even though really masks are meant to protect others, not me. But that's all I can do.

I am not at home all day. I am out there being coughed on. I wear a mask even though it sucks. If I can do it, so can everyone else. Not that big a deal, PP.

NP. That was the line in 2020, but it's not what applies to a well-fitted N95. One way masking works. Doctors do it all the time when caring for people who actually have Covid, and their risk of infection is low.

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Anonymous wrote:I love all the people who are all "it's time to move on and accept that COVID is part of life" but can't be bothered to accept that wearing a mask and being cautious is part of accepting that.

That would require empathy and mild effort.

We’ve spent the past 2.5 yrs masking, having events cancelled, missing a significant amount of school days to closures and quarantines, missing weddings and funerals, having events cancelled. Covid hit our family last month. One parent had a head cold for a week, 2 kids asymptomatic, one parent and one kid unaffected. What a waste of 2 yrs

Oh please. Your life has been pretty normal. My kids have been in virtual all this time and we’re home. Some selfish still have is Covid and it is miserable. If I have to go through this every few months, I’d rather miss those things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

What do you mean by "they can find alternatives"? They shouldn't ride the train? I don't think that's a fair suggestion given the current guidance. I think you are the one who needs to get herself a really tight-fitting N95 and stop worrying what other people do. That's what the CDC says.

Last time I checked you get Covid from someone else so yes, what others do is important.

Last time I checked the CDC says that N95s do an excellent job at protecting you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love all the people who are all "it's time to move on and accept that COVID is part of life" but can't be bothered to accept that wearing a mask and being cautious is part of accepting that.

That would require empathy and mild effort.

We’ve spent the past 2.5 yrs masking, having events cancelled, missing a significant amount of school days to closures and quarantines, missing weddings and funerals, having events cancelled. Covid hit our family last month. One parent had a head cold for a week, 2 kids asymptomatic, one parent and one kid unaffected. What a waste of 2 yrs

Oh please. Your life has been pretty normal. My kids have been in virtual all this time and we’re home. Some selfish still have is Covid and it is miserable. If I have to go through this every few months, I’d rather miss those things.

You again. Are you the poster whose kid caught it at an outdoor activity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love all the people who are all "it's time to move on and accept that COVID is part of life" but can't be bothered to accept that wearing a mask and being cautious is part of accepting that.

That would require empathy and mild effort.

We’ve spent the past 2.5 yrs masking, having events cancelled, missing a significant amount of school days to closures and quarantines, missing weddings and funerals, having events cancelled. Covid hit our family last month. One parent had a head cold for a week, 2 kids asymptomatic, one parent and one kid unaffected. What a waste of 2 yrs

Oh please. Your life has been pretty normal. My kids have been in virtual all this time and we’re home. Some selfish still have is Covid and it is miserable. If I have to go through this every few months, I’d rather miss those things.

That sounds like a you problem, you could have been enjoying those things all along.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a big ask for masks on public transportation. It’s not a huge part of the day but it’s where many of us risk the most exposure.

If the earlier poster can’t comfortably do that they can find alternatives.

Both of the bolded above are ignorant statements based on your personal experience, and a lack of imagination about others.

I take a train to work every day and it is the only way to get there (I do not own a car). The train takes 40-60 minutes. I also have to mask at work. Wearing a mask on the train means wearing a mask for 10 hours a day, plus unlike at work, on the train it is hard to take a break if I need one. At work I can go outside for a few minutes. On the train I can maybe go in the bathroom, but if the issues is needing fresh air, this doesn't help!

What I do is look for the emptiest car I can and sit as far from other people as I can, so that I can sit without my mask. If this isn't possible, I will wear a mask. And of course if I have symptoms I wear a mask, even if my Covid test is negative. But especially during my commute at the end of the day, my mask fatigue is real and intense, and when they finally lifted the mandate for masking on the train, it was such a relief to finally be able to take it off when I wanted to, when I had no symptoms.

I also test weekly (PCR) for work, so it's not like I'm being cavalier. And the thing is, I'm not even that worried about getting Covid (triple vaxxed, young and healthy) but I don't want to give it to anyone I work with or my family. I'm very cautious in general, but I do take a calculated risk on the train because from a mental health standpoint, I am at my max and can't do it anymore.

This is part of the problem with people who mostly work from home in white collar jobs dictating what the precautions should be. You all don't HAVE to work in person, take public transportation or travel a lot, deal with the public. It is so easy to say "Wear a mask! It's not hard!" when you only have to do it occasionally for short periods of time! Some of us have born the brunt of these restrictions for two years while you were comfortable at home, and now you want to complain about us for wanting to be allowed to make our own choices about risks that we face and you don't. It's really frustrating. I don't want Covid but I also don't want to spend every waking minute masking up to prevent it either, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to. I'm a person and this is inhumane.

The real problem is just pulling fake facts out of your ass and then pretending that's the argument you're fighting. I work in a school. Kids whose parents send them to school even though they're sick and coughing crowd around me every day. I wear a mask even though really masks are meant to protect others, not me. But that's all I can do.

I am not at home all day. I am out there being coughed on. I wear a mask even though it sucks. If I can do it, so can everyone else. Not that big a deal, PP.

And, you are why my kids are not in person school.