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I see DCU and Arlington are having these DA ID sessions. It includes 2007s. Are these essentially try outs?
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.

So it's more that that players are amazing and not necessarily the "sessions". I might be splitting hairs but I thought you were talking about what and how things were being taught that were amazing. Not the quality of the kids that came to VDA.
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Anonymous wrote:I see DCU and Arlington are having these DA ID sessions. It includes 2007s. Are these essentially try outs?


Yes, but these are for boys.
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Anonymous wrote:^^no but you could be in the top 99.999% of us soccer players and not be able to afford programs or leagues for your ability.



If you are in the top 99.9999% a club will make sure you can play. Don't be obsurd.


These kids aren't even showing up at tryouts for travel clubs, etc.

My husband pays the fees for two of the kids on his team. We end up having to pick them up for practices.

It's an elitist sport in this country. Admit it.

$7k for the top teams/leagues in the country. Travel costs to other states, hotels, etc.


Have those kids tryout at a DA or ECNL club and let the club figure it out. Do not walk away because you saw the price on the menu. If they can contribute and be a difference maker a club will find a way to make it happen.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.

So it's more that that players are amazing and not necessarily the "sessions". I might be splitting hairs but I thought you were talking about what and how things were being taught that were amazing. Not the quality of the kids that came to VDA.


When you have more technically sound players you can introduce more advanced practice elements. It is pretty hard to focus tactical elements when players are chasing the ball because their first touch is not consistent or they are not fast enough to beat the very fast defender.
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VDA are the new Barca guys

With the same coaches that can't win a game at their own clubs.

Let's all take our kids to VDA

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Anonymous wrote:VDA are the new Barca guys

With the same coaches that can't win a game at their own clubs.

Let's all take our kids to VDA



Wow, listen to yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.

Oh it's already happened in women's soccer. The u20s have problems putting three passes together. The other teams dominated time of possession and shots.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.

Oh it's already happened in women's soccer. The u20s have problems putting three passes together. The other teams dominated time of possession and shots.


And now we are trying to force the women into the same crappy system which hasn't worked for the men.

Some of the best women players came out of the 80s before all the BS arrived.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.

Oh it's already happened in women's soccer. The u20s have problems putting three passes together. The other teams dominated time of possession and shots.


And now we are trying to force the women into the same crappy system which hasn't worked for the men.

Some of the best women players came out of the 80s before all the BS arrived.


Wrong. The rest of the world is now interested in Women's soccer. Other countries are simply applying the same system that has proven to work for their men's program into the women's program.

In the 80s we were not competing against nations that were focused on developing women's soccer programs. Now they are and it is beginning to show as Japan, France, Germany, England, Canada, Brazil and based on the U20's even North Korea have more than caught up.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.

Oh it's already happened in women's soccer. The u20s have problems putting three passes together. The other teams dominated time of possession and shots.


And now we are trying to force the women into the same crappy system which hasn't worked for the men.

Some of the best women players came out of the 80s before all the BS arrived.


Wrong. The rest of the world is now interested in Women's soccer. Other countries are simply applying the same system that has proven to work for their men's program into the women's program.

In the 80s we were not competing against nations that were focused on developing women's soccer programs. Now they are and it is beginning to show as Japan, France, Germany, England, Canada, Brazil and based on the U20's even North Korea have more than caught up.


Why is this a sexist argument? Why don't we apply this same theory to US Men's side? Why have the US Men still not gotten anywhere close to the rest of the world---but in 10-15 years all the women in the other Countries mentioned have caught up with the US women?

Do you think, perhaps, what we've been doing in this country isn't working?
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.

Oh it's already happened in women's soccer. The u20s have problems putting three passes together. The other teams dominated time of possession and shots.


And now we are trying to force the women into the same crappy system which hasn't worked for the men.

Some of the best women players came out of the 80s before all the BS arrived.


Wrong. The rest of the world is now interested in Women's soccer. Other countries are simply applying the same system that has proven to work for their men's program into the women's program.

In the 80s we were not competing against nations that were focused on developing women's soccer programs. Now they are and it is beginning to show as Japan, France, Germany, England, Canada, Brazil and based on the U20's even North Korea have more than caught up.


Why is this a sexist argument? Why don't we apply this same theory to US Men's side? Why have the US Men still not gotten anywhere close to the rest of the world---but in 10-15 years all the women in the other Countries mentioned have caught up with the US women?

Do you think, perhaps, what we've been doing in this country isn't working?


I attribute our lack of success on the men's side more to cultural. We are not a soccer nation. It is that simple. Soccer has not occupied mind share. With European leagues being televised here I think we are approaching the corner but we have not yet rounded the corner.

MLS needs to improve and expand. It needs to be a desirable destination for our players. But, through TV kids can watch soccer and follow their heroes and be able to share a common experience and language with their friends because it is more accessible now.

Give it time.

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Anonymous wrote:VDA are the new Barca guys

With the same coaches that can't win a game at their own clubs.

Let's all take our kids to VDA



Wait ... are you saying the Barca staff is leaving Barca to go to VDA?
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are not close to VDA and are happy where they are but I think it is a good point, where is the quality of player going to come from. Loudoun and FCV combining for DA would be a much stronger DA club. Plus BRYC and McLean have ECNL. I don't think it will be a possibility to get many players from those clubs.


I disagree with this. The lure of the DA attracts talent from far and wide. VDA is a viable option for kids from other top clubs because the TD and coaches are fantastic. Just look at the scores from fall and see how VDA fared against the other DAs. And of course, results aren't the end-all, the training is. I've watched several VDA sessions because they train at the same facility where one of my kids trains and the sessions are amazing. The word is out and top coaching will always attract top talent.


You stated that the sessions are amazing. Can you elaborate? What do they do differently? better? and what sessions are you comparing these sessions to? Thanks


Technical ability and pure speed of play is the difference when you watch a DA or ECNL level practice.


And when you watch DA and a European Academy...you see the great difference again. The latter having much greater speed and technical ability.


You've seen a European girls' academy?


Yep. U14 in Barcelona this Fall.

Be afraid. I have said all along once these countries that were so behind in allowing women to play soccer start applying their methodologies to the women they will surpass us. See the Olympics.

Now look at the befuddled mess that is currently happening with US women's soccer.

I watched the U12 boys Barca aced my too. Holy crap---they were amazing.

Oh it's already happened in women's soccer. The u20s have problems putting three passes together. The other teams dominated time of possession and shots.


And now we are trying to force the women into the same crappy system which hasn't worked for the men.

Some of the best women players came out of the 80s before all the BS arrived.


Wrong. The rest of the world is now interested in Women's soccer. Other countries are simply applying the same system that has proven to work for their men's program into the women's program.

In the 80s we were not competing against nations that were focused on developing women's soccer programs. Now they are and it is beginning to show as Japan, France, Germany, England, Canada, Brazil and based on the U20's even North Korea have more than caught up.


Why is this a sexist argument? Why don't we apply this same theory to US Men's side? Why have the US Men still not gotten anywhere close to the rest of the world---but in 10-15 years all the women in the other Countries mentioned have caught up with the US women?

Do you think, perhaps, what we've been doing in this country isn't working?


I attribute our lack of success on the men's side more to cultural. We are not a soccer nation. It is that simple. Soccer has not occupied mind share. With European leagues being televised here I think we are approaching the corner but we have not yet rounded the corner.

MLS needs to improve and expand. It needs to be a desirable destination for our players. But, through TV kids can watch soccer and follow their heroes and be able to share a common experience and language with their friends because it is more accessible now.

Give it time.



I've been watching soccer in the US since we had the Washington Diplomats, not DC United. I got Pele's autograph when I was 6 years old when the NY Cosmos came to play the at RFK. I am 47 now. 40 years it's been....
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