Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??

Reid was hired not that long ago by a 12-0 Democratic School Board who saw in her someone equally committed to their equity agenda and commitment to progressive values. Do you really think she would put that on the line by challenging a Black principal and a Black coach at a school already known only for its athletic (basketball) rather than athletic success? No, she acted entirely how she thought a progressive White woman woukd act under the circumstances by defending Hayfield and refusing to conduct a real investigation. It is very much the bigotry of low expectations on display.

She needs to resign or be fired. She is a completely incompetent waste of taxpayer money.

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Anonymous wrote:So when Reid stood up at that meeting in August and said everything was legit and the coach and principal had her full confidence, she knew that multiple football transfers had claimed to be homeless and that five kids all claimed the same address....

In fact, the Hayfield letter to VHSL defended five at the same address as evidence of the expensive nature of northern Virginia housing.

Wait, let me see if I understand this. Over the summer, people in the know at Hayfield request an investigation of a large number of potentially ineligible transfers. Instead of setting up an impartial outside investigation, FCPS decides to carry out the invesigation themselves. Of the 30 kids, they conduct a surprise drop-in of a sample to see if they are actually living at their alleged address. And it turns out that the majority of this small number of kids who got "verified" were the five kids at the same address?!

This is beyond cynical. This isn't even following the letter of the law,

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Hayfield referred 14 students to Gatehouse for residency checks in May 2024. Gatehouse didn’t complete the residency checks until August 26, 2024.
Reid announced on August 27 that the players were cleared. On August 29, the three skeptical school board members asked for an outside investigation but were voted down.

The Hayfield letter to VHSL says “shared housing is leveraged as an affordable living option for some families, particularly in urban areas with high cost housing…shared housing is not evidence that any family intends for their residency to be less than permanent and thus is not evidence of violation of the Transfer Rule (28A-7).”

Dont fall for it. This is what Reid wants everyone to focus on and the narrative strategy of her 3 letters- for everyone to focus on residency. The residency does NOT matter, but if she can get everyone fighting over that, she hopes they focus on the only 2 things that do matter and that are slam dunks - the violations for recruiting and spirit of game.

Reid’s new narrative strategy is to continue to mention the irrelevant eligibility and now also say that the college landscape changing so VHSL rules don’t work anymore. She is running FCPS by picking the rules she wants to agree or ignore with at the time.

She should have no vote of confidence from any family in FCPS that’s not the parent of the Hayfield starting football team. The time and $ on this mess that she could and should have stopped long before is staggering. Parents of students who are having problems other than whether they can play a football game, how heard do you feel right now? Thanks Reid and School Board for putting one principal’s football dream above everything else.

Can you explain what you mean about the eligibility being irrelevant? And the college landscape changing? How would that affect county residency rules?

It should impact residence rules and is another distraction, but idea is football now big business bc players can get $ beyond tuition. So coaches like Overton have their own businesses where they train kids (outside of school, but he has consistently been investigated for using school resources/facilities/$ for his own business). Some want to argue in name of equity that players should be able to transfer to whatever school want to play football wherever they want. Anything short of that is not equitable.

But again, THIS IS DISTACTION designed to gain sympathy for liars and cheaters.

Have fun enforcing any boundaries changes if make sports Wild West.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

I doubt Ms. Reid personally cared about the band, cheer and dance team’s senior night.

Why wouldn't she care about those students? What's in it for her to only care about the football team?

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??

Yes, between a rock and a hard place. She was so far into this. Knew about the texts BUT what about all those other seniors that were probably there for 4 years and had nothing to do with this? They deserved their recognition.

That is not a rock and a hard place. At all. People in authority positions make decisions all the time that will affect others. You don't overlook wrongdoing because the wrongdoers actions made other people happy.

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So how should the comm. Conversations go? No show from community to make a point of no confidence? Or all out attendance?

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??

Reid was hired not that long ago by a 12-0 Democratic School Board who saw in her someone equally committed to their equity agenda and commitment to progressive values. Do you really think she would put that on the line by challenging a Black principal and a Black coach at a school already known only for its athletic (basketball) rather than athletic success? No, she acted entirely how she thought a progressive White woman woukd act under the circumstances by defending Hayfield and refusing to conduct a real investigation. It is very much the bigotry of low expectations on display.

She needs to resign or be fired. She is a completely incompetent waste of taxpayer money.

If that is the case, shame on her. If not, your interpetation says a lot about your own prejudices about several different groups of people.

Either way, I agree that she should resign for willfully breaking the rules and setting a terrible example for every kid in FFX County.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

I doubt Ms. Reid personally cared about the band, cheer and dance team’s senior night.

Why wouldn't she care about those students? What's in it for her to only care about the football team?

"It's kind of hard to rally around a math class.'

Paul "Bear" Bryant

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??

Reid was hired not that long ago by a 12-0 Democratic School Board who saw in her someone equally committed to their equity agenda and commitment to progressive values. Do you really think she would put that on the line by challenging a Black principal and a Black coach at a school already known only for its athletic (basketball) rather than athletic success? No, she acted entirely how she thought a progressive White woman woukd act under the circumstances by defending Hayfield and refusing to conduct a real investigation. It is very much the bigotry of low expectations on display.

She needs to resign or be fired. She is a completely incompetent waste of taxpayer money.

If that is the case, shame on her. If not, your interpetation says a lot about your own prejudices about several different groups of people.

Either way, I agree that she should resign for willfully breaking the rules and setting a terrible example for every kid in FFX County.

Why? There are and have been many Black principals and coaches in FCPS who oversaw and ran clean programs. But the Reids of the world live in fear of holding everyone to high standards and possibly getting attacked as racist. And you can see what that got her here.

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VHSL cleared those players at the beginning of the school year. No ineligible player took the field at any point, which is why VHSL chose to enact a ban based on recruitment.

If VHSL declared any Hayfield player ineligible, wouldn't all of Hayfield's games be forfeit? (As an example, they declared a football transfer elsewhere in Virginia ineligible and declared those games forfeit. The case went to court and was reversed. https://www.nvdaily.com/nvdaily/central-wins-vhsl-appeal-then-topples-page-county-in-football/article_61641392-50ef-5618-a024-a421d8ee175f.html.)

With all the information coming out about potential homeless students and possible residency violations, it's interesting to me that the VHSL has not made any ruling about retroactively changing Hayfield's record.

It's also interesting to me that the Hayfield principal is the one who finally withdrew the team. A white superintendent could be seen as being motivated by race if she ordered the team to withdraw. How many of Gatehouse's decisions have been made out of fear of accusations of racism and attempts to avoid such accusations?

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

What's the rock and the hard place? I don't see that at all. In fact, I truly don't understand her motivation. Can someone explain it to me? Why did she go along and put her neck out to defend a bunch of people clearly cheating? What was in it for her? Just why??

Reid was hired not that long ago by a 12-0 Democratic School Board who saw in her someone equally committed to their equity agenda and commitment to progressive values. Do you really think she would put that on the line by challenging a Black principal and a Black coach at a school already known only for its athletic (basketball) rather than athletic success? No, she acted entirely how she thought a progressive White woman woukd act under the circumstances by defending Hayfield and refusing to conduct a real investigation. It is very much the bigotry of low expectations on display.

She needs to resign or be fired. She is a completely incompetent waste of taxpayer money.

If that is the case, shame on her. If not, your interpetation says a lot about your own prejudices about several different groups of people.

Either way, I agree that she should resign for willfully breaking the rules and setting a terrible example for every kid in FFX County.

Why? There are and have been many Black principals and coaches in FCPS who oversaw and ran clean programs. But the Reids of the world live in fear of holding everyone to high standards and possibly getting attacked as racist. And you can see what that got her here.

I don't have a close enough view to see that? I do find it perplexing that she would allow and enable this large scale cheating and I would like to understand why. You offered an explanation, which makes her look awful, but also seems like a crazy stretch. So maybe you are right. But if you aren't, then you are displaying all sorts of bigotry of low expectations too.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

14 guesses….

There were 31 transfers so thats 31 possibilities

DP. Only 14 claimed to be homeless.

Only 2 did. Go back and read. Or google the FXTimes article

So did the other 29 claim to live with a grandparent or aunt or friend? And was the original investigation from back in August a complete and utter lie?

With 29, there are variations of what happened. Some families flat out moved (they were renting, lease was up, so they moved to Kingstowne). Others switched custody from one parent in Freedoms district to another parent in Hayfields district. Those are probably legal from a residency standpoint.

Then there are the 5 registered to a single address (referenced in the Hayfield letter to VHSL). And the fake homeless (mentioned in Fairfax Times article).

But don’t get distracted by the few parents who insist their move complied with residency requirements. Under VHSL rules, the mass moves violated the recruitment rule, regardless of whether each individual circumstance had a cover story.

For the custody switchers, the child actually has to live with the new parent.

Vhsl requires the entire family to move and establish their new residence in the district. I doubt everyone did that.

I agree that “everyone” (meaning all 31) did not. That’s why I referenced the 5 players registered to the same address.

But I will note that there is a certain DCUM demographic that does not understand how transient LMC life is in northern Virginia. If you rent, changing residences is an 8 hour exercise.

5 families all residing together in the same house who are also well off enough to pay for years of private AAU football training....

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Anonymous wrote:The term "good old boy network" is incorrect. A "good ol' boy," was originally s phrase used in the South. "Billy doesn't think sometimes but deep down he's a good old boy," meaning sometimes someone does something foolish but they aren't bad people. The opening line to the Dukes of Hazzard theme song explains it pretty well.

The term is actually "old boy network. " An old boy network means"an informal system of support and friendship through which men use their positions of influence to help others who went to the same school or college as they did or who share a similar social background.
"many managers were chosen by the old boy network".

What appears to have been happening at Hayfield does fit the description of an old boy network.

NP. Stop wasting everyone’s time with pointless grammar lessons in a discussion forum. You’re not the teacher’s pet anymore, Karen. You can create another thread on it.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

I guarantee you she didnt spare a thought to those seniors.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

I guarantee you she didnt spare a thought to those seniors.

DP. She didn't spare a thought to any seniors. She doesn't have any thoughts to spare, doesn't seem to have any thoughts at all.

She is an idiot and a liar. Like everyone else, I'm surprised she was brought down by football. But she's done, she's cooked. All that's left is when she will resign or be fired.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont blame Reid. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place but still made sure that the Hayfield students that didn't get their senior night at the last regular season home game were able to get it at the home playoff game.

I doubt Ms. Reid personally cared about the band, cheer and dance team’s senior night.

Why wouldn't she care about those students? What's in it for her to only care about the football team?

She hasnt mentioned them once, nor has any other SB member, none of their written filings with vhsl or numerous emails mention them, etc