New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

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Anonymous wrote:<a href="https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/DBTR7M6BF6F2/$file/J-30%20Student%20Use%20of%20Cell%20Phones%20and%20Personal%20Electronic%20Communication%20Devices_.pdf">Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices</a>

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

Teachers are adults with different responsibilities. What are you, 12?

If a teacher is using a phone during class to scroll TikTok, I agree they should be fired. We can’t expel students for doing it though, because this is public school.

Or between classes. Or during lunch.

Let's install MDM software on any phones that teachers use during the school day to monitor for such unauthorized uses.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

Using the timer during an ES reading assessment is not a social media distraction.

Adults are subject to social media temptations and distractions, too. Stopwatches are cheap alternatives.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

But that logic applies to every employee everywhere. Employees are adults.

We have LOADS of rules that apply to students in school environments that are wholly distinct from employer-employee rules. I mean, an adult employee can go pee whenever they want in most jobs. Yours kid has to ask to use the bathroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

Teachers are telling you it’s harming the students. So are scientists. Social media companies admit that they program their platforms to be addictive as possible. Do you not experience your child being distracted on their phone? If you don’t, you either don’t have a teenager or you aren’t paying attention.

We make rules for children in schools that are distinct from adult employees in all kinds of professional jobs. I’m so unclear why you think that making a rule for children that doesn’t apply to adults makes the rule for children a bad rule? Of course it would be better if we all (adults) put our phones down during the work day. But that is a separate question from making rules for students.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

Teachers are telling you it’s harming the students. So are scientists. Social media companies admit that they program their platforms to be addictive as possible. Do you not experience your child being distracted on their phone? If you don’t, you either don’t have a teenager or you aren’t paying attention.

We make rules for children in schools that are distinct from adult employees in all kinds of professional jobs. I’m so unclear why you think that making a rule for children that doesn’t apply to adults makes the rule for children a bad rule? Of course it would be better if we all (adults) put our phones down during the work day. But that is a separate question from making rules for students.

If you think it is also bad for adults, then why wouldn't you expect adults to abide by the same rule when they are supposed to be working? We're not talking about what they do at home.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

But that logic applies to every employee everywhere. Employees are adults.

We have LOADS of rules that apply to students in school environments that are wholly distinct from employer-employee rules. I mean, an adult employee can go pee whenever they want in most jobs. Yours kid has to ask to use the bathroom.

Some students are adults too but the cell phone police said their phones have to be banned. So let's do the same for their teachers. If phones are so bad for the students, same for the teachers. Principals and school board members too!

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

Teachers are telling you it’s harming the students. So are scientists. Social media companies admit that they program their platforms to be addictive as possible. Do you not experience your child being distracted on their phone? If you don’t, you either don’t have a teenager or you aren’t paying attention.

We make rules for children in schools that are distinct from adult employees in all kinds of professional jobs. I’m so unclear why you think that making a rule for children that doesn’t apply to adults makes the rule for children a bad rule? Of course it would be better if we all (adults) put our phones down during the work day. But that is a separate question from making rules for students.

If you think it is also bad for adults, then why wouldn't you expect adults to abide by the same rule when they are supposed to be working? We're not talking about what they do at home.

+1. Plus it's going to be pretty hard for teachers to enforce a ban when they are on their own phones. Practice what you preach!!!

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The school board members should be banned from using their phones too. Tired of them being distracted during meetings. You can tell they are not paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:The school board members should be banned from using their phones too. Tired of them being distracted during meetings. You can tell they are not paying attention.

And they should be required to ask for a bathroom pass and get tardy detentions and not allowed to bring snacks into their workplace and they should not be allowed to leave the board room during lunch for the first three years.

I am convinced! Let’s treat all children like salaried adults!

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A lot of districts and workplaces have rules banning phone use while working. Why not for APS teachers?

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

I’m convinced. If teachers are really so against phones in school, they should live with the same ban. Principles too. Let’s get them pouches. Violations subject to write up’s. Let the teachers focus on teaching without social media distractions.

That is ridiculous, and I am a parent, not a teacher. The whole point of a phone ban in schools is to permit children to experience a distraction-free educational experience: students can focus on their academics, they can practice face-to-face communication, they have more opportunities for social and academic engagement, they won't be tempted to bully, they won't be distracted by helicopter parents of feel depressed or anxious due to incoming phone notifications or social media posts (look, I know teens can feel the same way about in person social interactions but those kinds of interactions are still proven to be kinder than what happens online), the list goes on. My concern is my child's experience, and I value it being phone free including ALL the students that makeup that community. If a teacher is in the teacher's lounge or in their empty classroom, I have zero concern or objection with them checking their phones. Of course, if a teacher is on their phone checking Facebook during class, that is a whole other issue that relates to their maturity and professionalism and should be dealt with by the administration accordingly.

Well the only way to enforce a rule that a teacher isn't on Facebook during class is a bright line ban. Also, I think teachers should be engaging in face to face communication with their colleagues during breaks. They should not be using their phones when alone in their classroom. That is paid time for planning, so the phone needs to be banned so it does not continue to distract them from their job duties.

+1. Either it is important or it isn't. Allowing teachers to play on their phones during the school day suggests it isn't important.

+1 Teachers can communicate using school provided resources.

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Anonymous wrote:Policy J-30 Student Use of Cell Phones and Personal Electronic Communication Devices

School Board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception
https://www.arlnow.com/2024/12/13/school-board-adopts-all-day-ban-on-student-phone-use-makes-one-exception/

"Arlington School Board members Thursday night (Dec. 12) voted unanimously (5-0) to implement a bell-to-bell ban on student use of phones in county schools starting Jan. 6. High school students will be allowed to have “brief” access to their phones in designated areas during non-instructional time, most likely around lunchtime."

No mention of penalties for students, and admin/teachers who do not follow the new policy.

Where do you see that this applies to admin/teachers? The quote above specifies “student use”.

It says they have to be off and away. It doesn't say only students have to turn them off and put them away.

Why would it be OK for teachers to play on their phones during the school day?

The policy is titled “Student use of cell phones…”. Everything that follows in the post mentions “student”.

Why are you asking if it would be ok for teachers to “play on their phones”? Who suggested that? There are, however, legitimate reasons a teacher might utilize a phone during the school day.

what are the legitimate reasons a teacher might have to use their phone during the school day?

None of your fcking business.

Well, you are quite unpleasant. And what do you mean not of my business? The teachers are ON the job supposed to be teaching my children. What they do during this time is exactly my and all of our business.

I'll ask again - why would a teacher HAVE to use their phone during the school day?

No. You don't get to ask that. You are not their boss and you have zero say into their work expectations.

Sit down.

Lots of people here don't seem to have a problem with bossing around other people's kids.

A ban on an addictive and distracting device that was recommended by your child’s teachers? And all scientists? And now most major school jurisdictions across the country? And the elite private schools? And most parents?

And opposed by most students? And some helicopter parents who can’t handle their child’s sports practice change?

If they're that bad, then teachers shouldn't have them during the school day, either.

Teachers are adults with different responsibilities. What are you, 12?

If a teacher is using a phone during class to scroll TikTok, I agree they should be fired. We can’t expel students for doing it though, because this is public school.

What about adult high school students?

"Adult" high school students by and large don't have adult responsibilities. If they have children of their own, i imagine they can get documentation allowing them a phone, just like some students with medical needs may have a phone.