Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If proximity is important, then CROSSFIELD NEEDS TO MOVE TO SKYVIEW.

I think it's absurd that there are families at our school more concerned about their kids doing sports or their "property value" than about being able to pick up their kids from activities, having their kids drive safely to high school instead of on narrow windy roads, and staying in a high school that is part of their community instead of a completely different town just because they think it's more prestigious. Gatehouse needs to stop listening to the Crossfield PTO and listen to the rest of the parents in the community. No, we don't have a website, but there are a lot of us, mostly with children in younger grades who play sports in Chantilly and Herndon and want to go to Carson and Skyview because a 5 minute drive makes a lot more sense than a 25 minute drive (which can be 45 during rush hour).

Scenario 2 is bad.

Scenario 2 is a clear winner.

It has the largest number of schools in the target utilization range and is also least disruptive.

They will look into the travel time as opposed to the distance, but it seems like most people want Scenario 2.

+1

Is this the same person posting over and over again? lots of people dislike 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

[Anonymous]

I think its bizarre that they hired *consultants* who know nothing about the area to do these reviews, when they have IN STAFF FACILITIES PEOPLE who know the areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If proximity is important, then CROSSFIELD NEEDS TO MOVE TO SKYVIEW.

I think it's absurd that there are families at our school more concerned about their kids doing sports or their "property value" than about being able to pick up their kids from activities, having their kids drive safely to high school instead of on narrow windy roads, and staying in a high school that is part of their community instead of a completely different town just because they think it's more prestigious. Gatehouse needs to stop listening to the Crossfield PTO and listen to the rest of the parents in the community. No, we don't have a website, but there are a lot of us, mostly with children in younger grades who play sports in Chantilly and Herndon and want to go to Carson and Skyview because a 5 minute drive makes a lot more sense than a 25 minute drive (which can be 45 during rush hour).

Scenario 2 is bad.

Scenario 2 is a clear winner.

It has the largest number of schools in the target utilization range and is also least disruptive.

They will look into the travel time as opposed to the distance, but it seems like most people want Scenario 2.

No. Just because you keep posting this doesn't mean it will happen.

I didn't post that because I wanted it to happen. I posted it because it's a fact.

Read the presentation slides. It says Scenario 2 has the largest number of schools in the target utilization range. The presenter said Scenario 2 is the most conservative option.

Did you attend the meetings? Most people liked Scenario 2 most (or hated it the least).

Was there a vote at the meeting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

I am not familiar with your area. Send the Cub Run people to Westfield that attend Chantilly. That makes sense.
However, with the loss of Oak Hill, Chantilly would not be overcrowded. I think Centreville is still overcrowded? So, which school should move?

[Anonymous]

Centreville is not really overcrowded like Chantilly is, they have trailers not included in the capacity and a lower population overall, that is trending downward with no new construction in its zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

LC Mom is grasping at straws -she doesn't have any good arguments because her neighborhood got screwed by the Walney Oaks people getting in front of Reid first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

LC Mom is grasping at straws -she doesn't have any good arguments because her neighborhood got screwed by the Walney Oaks people getting in front of Reid first.

to be fair, MANY of these changes were not on any of the initial boundary maps so most people were surprised

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

LC Mom is grasping at straws -she doesn't have any good arguments because her neighborhood got screwed by the Walney Oaks people getting in front of Reid first.

No. Not a Lees Corner resident. Just someone in the area who has common sense.
And, in no world should Lee's Corner go to Westfield and Cub Run/Chantilly stay at Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

But some of those Bull Run kids are about the same distance from Westfield as Centreville. But, you know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

LC Mom is grasping at straws -she doesn't have any good arguments because her neighborhood got screwed by the Walney Oaks people getting in front of Reid first.

No. Not a Lees Corner resident. Just someone in the area who has common sense.
And, in no world should Lee's Corner go to Westfield and Cub Run/Chantilly stay at Chantilly.

I think everyone but the people who live in the Cub Run-Chantilly area agree that they should be move to Stone-Westfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that XYZ began with the high school boundaries and then moved to middle schools. Likely being unaware of how close Franklin and Carson are, they then pulled kids to the middle school or out of the middle school--disrupting elementary attendance. So, then they moved to elementary and made them fit. And, ended up with a huge mixed up mess.
Either that, or they just threw spagetti at the wall.

Just look at what they did with the Franklin Farm section of Oak Hill. It makes NO sense at all. I'm not familiar with all the other areas, but I am familiar with that area and the Lee's Corner mess.

I also recall the Fox Mill Woods mess from the 2008 boundary review.
It is not a huge area. At that time, because of the bitterness in the neighborhood, I recall a request that they allow generous pupil placement to Oakton from that area. I think it came to a vote on the School Board. I thought it was a reasonable request as that there were valid reasons to allow it. It was handily rejected.

I would think that Oak Hill should be assigned to Carson. But, for those walkers across the street from Franklin, I would allow generous pupil placement. I doubt it would be much utilized.

This is NOT the same as sending Lee's Corner to Westfield. Carson and Franklin are less than two miles from each other and most of Oak Hill is smack in the middle. Chantilly and Westfield are not particularly close. Why would you take kids and send them to a school that is further away?

If you are the lees corner parent, you seem OK with kids being sent twice as far from Centreville to Westfield, as long as they aren't your kids moving. Or do you agree that shouldn't happen either?

Lees Corner is five times further from Westfield than Chantilly. You don't see the difference? Which kids across the street from Centreville are being moved? Which walkers are being moved?

Why is that relevant (if true?)? The distance for those Chantilly kids to go to Westfield is still shorter than the distance for those kids in Centreville to Westfield.

But some of those Bull Run kids are about the same distance from Westfield as Centreville. But, you know that.

No, I don't know that. Specifically which neighborhoods currently zoned for Bull Run/CVHS are the same distance in miles or shorter to Westfield as they are to Centreville HS?

[Anonymous]

School board meeting on May 5

Skyview and Western pyramids boundary will be discussed.

Dixit and Meren will be meeting managers.