Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?

Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?

The authorities found one shooter. There is no evidence that there are multiple shooters or multiple planners of the assassination. Have you read otherwise?

She should direct her anger at Nick Fuentes and his Groyper Army. They are the ones who radicalized Robinson.

Is that who she is referring to by evildoers?

No, of course not, but they won't see it that way. Fox News is still going on and on about liberal indoctrination and how the left infected this kid.

It's not holding up Fox. The right needs to try something new because this nonsense is not working for the right or anybody else.

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Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?

Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?

That person has been caught. It appears he spent too much time online, lost track of morality, and killed someone.

As of this moment, it appears there is no larger group of “evil doers” to condemn. Like a lot of violence in this country it was the lone wolf. So who exactly has “no idea what they have done.” And what does that mean — that type of language usually proceeds some sort of unleashing of revenge. She is angry and lashing out at some imaginary enemy.

Disagreeing with Charlie Kirk’s message doesn’t make one an evil doer. She is crazy and looking for people to scapegoat for her unhappiness just like so much of the right.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are MAGA and you’re in denial that these radicals are your people, read this. If you have a son, read this:

https://jaredyatessexton.substack.com/p/the-threat-no-one-wants-to-talk-about

I’m bringing this article from page 297 up to here. This is a really important and good article about the online radicalization going on - primarily aimed at young men.

It is very clear this is the world that the killer lived in. His bright future somehow got derailed that first semester at college, he retreated into the online world and was increasingly isolated from society. The Fuentes/ Loomer world gave him some kind of validation that the loneliness he faced wasn’t his fault and a place he could channel his anger.

I also fear that although it is very clear this is what happened, that the Trump administration/ FBU is going to do all that it can to squelch this story. I wouldn’t put it past them to do a plea deal where if he pleads guilty and claims he was on the left that he can avoid the death penalty. It’s like Jan 6. At first most Republicans were also horrified by it. But then they came up with some talking points that enabled them all to shift the blame and not take responsibility.

So look carefully at what Trump and Patel say. This is a right on right issue that needs to be addressed. Don’t let them blame and vilify the Democrats for their radicalization issue.

And yes, make sure you are talking to your sons. There are a lot of them holed up in their game rooms in dialogue on discord and 4chan about a lot of these vile views.

I loathe Trump, but this story has been squelched for the better part of my lifetime. Timothy McVeigh was portrayed as a lone wolf with fringe beliefs. The FBI wrapped him and Terry Nichols up and closed the book as fast as it could.

"The FBI failed to fully investigate information suggesting other suspects may have helped Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols with the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing..."

"Information that McVeigh called a German citizen living at a white supremacist compound in Oklahoma two weeks before the bombing and that two witnesses saw the men together before the bombing."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-criticized-for-okc-investigation/

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Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?

Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?

The authorities found one shooter. There is no evidence that there are multiple shooters or multiple planners of the assassination. Have you read otherwise?

She should direct her anger at Nick Fuentes and his Groyper Army. They are the ones who radicalized Robinson.

Is that who she is referring to by evildoers?

Of course, not she can’t make money unless she demonizes the left.

[Anonymous]

This is an interesting analysis: https://www.garbageday.email/p/charlie-kirk-was-killed-by-a-meme

I think at this point we just do not know, but I don’t think the theory that he was a leftist agitator holds up. He was either a Groyper (a group that was systematically harassing Kirk for years) or even more terribly part of an extremely dark internet subculture pushing kids to do acts of extreme violence for clout. TBH at this point I would prefer that he was some BlueSky Antifa type with a violent but at least understandable agenda. but the truth seems to be more dark.

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Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting analysis: https://www.garbageday.email/p/charlie-kirk-was-killed-by-a-meme

I think at this point we just do not know, but I don’t think the theory that he was a leftist agitator holds up. He was either a Groyper (a group that was systematically harassing Kirk for years) or even more terribly part of an extremely dark internet subculture pushing kids to do acts of extreme violence for clout. TBH at this point I would prefer that he was some BlueSky Antifa type with a violent but at least understandable agenda. but the truth seems to be more dark.

(Btw to clarify, by “understandable” I mean that it is coherent and has logical steps, not that it is excusable.)

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Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.

No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.

This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.

All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.

+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.

These people need to be sued into oblivion for this if more college shootings happen.

I’m so sick of people lying and saying the most outrageous things and putting others
in danger for clicks and attention. We need massive consequences and as a society, we need to stop accepting lies and supporting the fake outrage.

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“Asked to comment on Mr. Fuentes’s remarks, White House officials declined. Current and former members of the Trump administration as well as outside advisers would not be quoted for the record about Mr. Fuentes out of fear, they said, of inviting online attacks from him and his zealous followers.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/us/politics/nick-fuentes-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lk8.rEF8.rqxqZBPaVC4_&smid=url-share

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Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.

No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.

This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.

All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.

+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.

These people need to be sued into oblivion for this if more college shootings happen.

I’m so sick of people lying and saying the most outrageous things and putting others
in danger for clicks and attention. We need massive consequences and as a society, we need to stop accepting lies and supporting the fake outrage.

Unfortunately, the president of the United States and the richest man in the world both own platforms that peddle this garbage, so it’ll never happen unless people choose en masse to get off the internet.

[Anonymous]

The killer made no reference to jews. A groyper would have done so.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.

No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.

This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.

All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.

+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.

A lot of young male mass shooters in recent years have not stayed in higher education and pursued a bachelor’s degree. That suggests college is a positive socializing force rather than a radicalizing one. Having the opportunity to live and learn with people from other backgrounds tends to smooth out extreme views.

Or, more likely the odd balls have a hard time adjusting and withdraw into their parent's basement.

Ok so right here ^^^ this is the crux of the problem. Oddballs? Are you the epitome of ‘normal’?

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

America is over, deal. No one owes you respect. Quit lying to yourself about where the anger is originating, because it’s not gonna stop if you just scapegoat libs.

I wouldn't say America is over, but there will have to be a lot of healing after four more years of a guy who tells his followers that the radical left is evil while the radical right is only radical because they hate crime so much.

We're at the prove it wrong stage. Currently every indicator is against us. There are those on the right that thought they could foment hate and come out on the other side unscathed (yep, they daydream of post trump). They've been grooming hate, they built an echo chamber, they've derailed the lives of their own kids. Now they see these forlorn nihilist will come for their own first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Asked to comment on Mr. Fuentes’s remarks, White House officials declined. Current and former members of the Trump administration as well as outside advisers would not be quoted for the record about Mr. Fuentes out of fear, they said, of inviting online attacks from him and his zealous followers.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/us/politics/nick-fuentes-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lk8.rEF8.rqxqZBPaVC4_&smid=url-share

Geez. I hope for their own self-preservation the Trump admin and GOP thoroughly investigate if Fuentes radicalized the Kirk shooter. But I feel like their desire to p0wn the libs and possibly the Epstein thing means that this will disappear into oblivion. I do wonder though what Kirk’s wife and family will do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?

Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?

That person has been caught. It appears he spent too much time online, lost track of morality, and killed someone.

As of this moment, it appears there is no larger group of “evil doers” to condemn. Like a lot of violence in this country it was the lone wolf. So who exactly has “no idea what they have done.” And what does that mean — that type of language usually proceeds some sort of unleashing of revenge. She is angry and lashing out at some imaginary enemy.

Disagreeing with Charlie Kirk’s message doesn’t make one an evil doer. She is crazy and looking for people to scapegoat for her unhappiness just like so much of the right.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.

No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.

This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.

All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.

+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.

These people need to be sued into oblivion for this if more college shootings happen.

I’m so sick of people lying and saying the most outrageous things and putting others
in danger for clicks and attention. We need massive consequences and as a society, we need to stop accepting lies and supporting the fake outrage.

+1 I’m sick of all of these political influencers and the news. Pushing crazy shit for clicks is why we are the way we are. Hopefully this turns things around. This is the first real life consequence of the rhetoric that has been created. To be clear I’m not saying that it’s Charlie Kirk’s fault, but this killer was not made in a vacuum. When it gets too hateful the words on the screen will turn to real life action.