Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:The killer made no reference to jews. A groyper would have done so.


So do you think it was the same violent and amoral online culture that inspired the other recent shooters?
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One of the best explainers on groyper, white and white violence and the Rights blindspot of where the threat is coming from.

https://bsky.app/profile/editorialboard.bsky.social/post/3lypsrse5xc2e
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Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?



Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?


That person has been caught. It appears he spent too much time online, lost track of morality, and killed someone.

As of this moment, it appears there is no larger group of “evil doers” to condemn. Like a lot of violence in this country it was the lone wolf. So who exactly has “no idea what they have done.” And what does that mean — that type of language usually proceeds some sort of unleashing of revenge. She is angry and lashing out at some imaginary enemy.

Disagreeing with Charlie Kirk’s message doesn’t make one an evil doer. She is crazy and looking for people to scapegoat for her unhappiness just like so much of the right.


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She might have been talking about Fuentes. It’s kind of the most logical thing for her to have been referring to.
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Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.


This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.


All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.


+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.


These people need to be sued into oblivion for this if more college shootings happen.

I’m so sick of people lying and saying the most outrageous things and putting others
in danger for clicks and attention. We need massive consequences and as a society, we need to stop accepting lies and supporting the fake outrage.


+1 I’m sick of all of these political influencers and the news. Pushing crazy shit for clicks is why we are the way we are. Hopefully this turns things around. This is the first real life consequence of the rhetoric that has been created. To be clear I’m not saying that it’s Charlie Kirk’s fault, but this killer was not made in a vacuum. When it gets too hateful the words on the screen will turn to real life action.

But that is t the reason Robinson killed Kirk. CK wants to the right enough! Read this thread. https://bsky.app/profile/editorialboard.bsky.social/post/3lypsrse5xc2e
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Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture.
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I think people are thinking too hard about his political stance. These people are nihilistic accelerationist. Just trying to burn the planet down.
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Anonymous wrote:Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture.


It’s so weird the alt-right and these super religious people have this weird look in their eyes.

You can tell when somebody is just pretending from moneybecause they don’t have crazy eyes
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Anonymous wrote:The killer made no reference to jews. A groyper would have done so.


So do you think it was the same violent and amoral online culture that inspired the other recent shooters?


Yes I think it was one of the online radicalization networks, like 764, O9A and others, that prey on our kids using social media platforms.
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Anonymous wrote:I just watched that entire video from Erika Kirk. Any sympathy I had for her is gone. She had an opportunity to call for peace and unity, but instead, she's practically advocating for a civil war in her husband's name. She is continuing to perpetuate the belief that the left caused this. She said the evil doers who did this have no idea what they've unleashed. She refers to "they" multiple times. I don't know why I expected anything different from a woman who married that guy.


Yeah. You're the part of the problem. You went shopping for ANY reason to have an ounce of empathy for her as opposed to coming to terms with the reality staring at you : She is very much as vile as her deceased husband, if not, she wouldn't have married him. Welcome back to the real world . Some of you never learn .
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Anonymous wrote:The killer made no reference to jews. A groyper would have done so.


So do you think it was the same violent and amoral online culture that inspired the other recent shooters?


Yes I think it was one of the online radicalization networks, like 764, O9A and others, that prey on our kids using social media platforms.


So awful.
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Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?



Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?


The authorities found one shooter. There is no evidence that there are multiple shooters or multiple planners of the assassination. Have you read otherwise?


She should direct her anger at Nick Fuentes and his Groyper Army. They are the ones who radicalized Robinson.


Is that who she is referring to by evildoers?


No. She's referring to the left. She can't let go of the US against them narrative. She'll quickly see the gulf between how they view white men and white women like her . Saddle up, boo boo
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True this. Left is spinning as usual
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Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.


This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.


All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.


+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.


A lot of young male mass shooters in recent years have not stayed in higher education and pursued a bachelor’s degree. That suggests college is a positive socializing force rather than a radicalizing one. Having the opportunity to live and learn with people from other backgrounds tends to smooth out extreme views.


Or, more likely the odd balls have a hard time adjusting and withdraw into their parent's basement.


Yes. Going to school forced him out of the basement, briefly, there was no throng of liberals to argue with. COVID hit when this kid was a HS sophomore. His perfect grades were, everyone's perfect grades. He spent one semester in college confronted with work and went home to stew some more. He was groomed by the right.
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Anonymous wrote:I think people are thinking too hard about his political stance. These people are nihilistic accelerationist. Just trying to burn the planet down.


Agreed, but I also think there is an element of FAFO there. He was probably wound up by online rhetoric in his gamer groups or whatever, but then he took it a step further instead of just being a keyboard warrior which is what most of them are.

The engravings were not political. They were troll memes and inside jokes in this online subculture. On tiktok I am seeing people in this subculture in complete disbelief that the country is stepping further into civil war because of people are interpreting what is basically internet trolling.
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Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?



Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?


That person has been caught. It appears he spent too much time online, lost track of morality, and killed someone.

As of this moment, it appears there is no larger group of “evil doers” to condemn. Like a lot of violence in this country it was the lone wolf. So who exactly has “no idea what they have done.” And what does that mean — that type of language usually proceeds some sort of unleashing of revenge. She is angry and lashing out at some imaginary enemy.

Disagreeing with Charlie Kirk’s message doesn’t make one an evil doer. She is crazy and looking for people to scapegoat for her unhappiness just like so much of the right.


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The evil-doers are the ones spreading hate online.
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