Why do schools not let mingle gen-ed kids with AAP.

[Anonymous]

The subject says it all,and I am referring to places like Field trip ,lunch,field day etc. That is a torture for all of them.

[Anonymous]

No idea. Our school mixes kids.

[Anonymous]

Our school does not and I often hear kids complaining from both the streams.

[Anonymous]

Our center mixes kids for field trips, lunch, specials, etc. - it's a school community, not an enclave.

[Anonymous]

Our school generally mixes. What school doesn't?

Lunch though they go by class, not sure what other way makes sense....

[Anonymous]

Our school pays lip service to mixing, but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes. On field trips, each class divides into groups from that same class, and they have to stay together, so no mingling there either (or on the bus, as kids have to sit with their classes). They are mixed in specials and I think at recess, but that's about it. It makes no sense to keep these kids separate. They're missing out on friendships they would otherwise have made if they weren't segregated into separate classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school pays lip service to mixing, but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes. On field trips, each class divides into groups from that same class, and they have to stay together, so no mingling there either (or on the bus, as kids have to sit with their classes). They are mixed in specials and I think at recess, but that's about it. It makes no sense to keep these kids separate. They're missing out on friendships they would otherwise have made if they weren't segregated into separate classrooms.

+1

[Anonymous]

Kids are mixed in our schools too for that kind of stuff.

[Anonymous]

but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes

In some schools, the whole grade goes to lunch at the same time and they can sit anywhere. Then they go to recess together as a grade. It was great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school pays lip service to mixing, but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes. On field trips, each class divides into groups from that same class, and they have to stay together, so no mingling there either (or on the bus, as kids have to sit with their classes). They are mixed in specials and I think at recess, but that's about it. It makes no sense to keep these kids separate. They're missing out on friendships they would otherwise have made if they weren't segregated into separate classrooms.

Every single elementary school in the county seats kids at lunch by class and loads the busses for field trips by class.

For the lunches it is a timing/scheduling thing based on bringing classes to the cafeteria together and collecting each class at the same time so the tables are scattered properly forcleaning and flipping for the next class of kids.

For field trips, keeping homeroom classes together is a safe and easy way not to lose kids along the way.

Those two issues would happen whether or not your school has AAP and has zero to do with keeping kids in different programs segregated.

You are creating an issue where there is none in these two specific examples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes

In some schools, the whole grade goes to lunch at the same time and they can sit anywhere. Then they go to recess together as a grade. It was great.

I bet it sucks for the kids who are buying to have such long lines of 100 or so kids all at once.

In small school districts that makes sense but not in schools with more than two or three classes per grade.

[Anonymous]

Isn't it true that for the most part your kid socializes mostly with the kids in his/her class that particular year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school pays lip service to mixing, but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes. On field trips, each class divides into groups from that same class, and they have to stay together, so no mingling there either (or on the bus, as kids have to sit with their classes). They are mixed in specials and I think at recess, but that's about it. It makes no sense to keep these kids separate. They're missing out on friendships they would otherwise have made if they weren't segregated into separate classrooms.

Every single elementary school in the county seats kids at lunch by class and loads the busses for field trips by class.

For the lunches it is a timing/scheduling thing based on bringing classes to the cafeteria together and collecting each class at the same time so the tables are scattered properly forcleaning and flipping for the next class of kids.

For field trips, keeping homeroom classes together is a safe and easy way not to lose kids along the way.

Those two issues would happen whether or not your school has AAP and has zero to do with keeping kids in different programs segregated.

You are creating an issue where there is none in these two specific examples.

Actually that isn't true. Smaller schools in the county allow kids to go to lunch and recess as a grade. For field trips, it's often by class, but there are small groups. Each mom/dad with about 5 kids. They can move anywhere they want on the trip. That said, field trips really aren't the area where these center schools should be focusing on bringing kids together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school pays lip service to mixing, but the reality is all students have to sit with their class at lunch, so they can't sit with friends in other classes. On field trips, each class divides into groups from that same class, and they have to stay together, so no mingling there either (or on the bus, as kids have to sit with their classes). They are mixed in specials and I think at recess, but that's about it. It makes no sense to keep these kids separate. They're missing out on friendships they would otherwise have made if they weren't segregated into separate classrooms.

Every single elementary school in the county seats kids at lunch by class and loads the busses for field trips by class.

For the lunches it is a timing/scheduling thing based on bringing classes to the cafeteria together and collecting each class at the same time so the tables are scattered properly forcleaning and flipping for the next class of kids.

For field trips, keeping homeroom classes together is a safe and easy way not to lose kids along the way.

Those two issues would happen whether or not your school has AAP and has zero to do with keeping kids in different programs segregated.

You are creating an issue where there is none in these two specific examples.

In all schools AAP kids rotate within AAP classes and Gen-Ed kids rotate within Gen-Ed classes. So what you just said will not hold true if the kids were not segregated, as all the kids will have rotated amongst themselves.

I do understand keeping class together scenario for field trips. But I feel that still if we have 4 classes, class 1 can be with class 2,3, or 4 in same bus for different field trips. In our school always class 1 and 2 (AAP kids) are in 1 bus , and class 3 and 4 are in bus 2.

[Anonymous]

Why would the AAP kids mix and mingle with the non-AAP kids? Is there something about the non-AAP kids that they want to/need to be introduced to the AAP kids?

The non-AAP kids have their classes/classmates and the AAP kids have their classmates/teachers?

What would be the point of mixing these groups? My kid's school operates like two sub-schools. Neither is inherently superior or inferior -- they are just separate when it comes to their schedules. Of course, they share a unified loyalty/pride in their school, but they seem very separate. (That impression may also be influenced by the fact that my kid is in a trailer as are all the AAP kids in DC's grade level. So, they aren't really IN the school building physically... and it has that effect mentally --
"separate")