Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[FrankWinston]

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/2-hayfield-athletes-homeless-as-parents-call-for-resignations/article_ac2e632c-ac2a-11ef-bc97-5719aa917270.html

And this still isn't the second shoe dropping. I don't know what is more damning in this article: 1. That Reid knew they cheated, still negotiated for a one year playoff ban, and then encouraged Hayfraud parents to go to court to challenge the ban; or 2. That we now know (at least) two players committed residency fraud and in doing it in the manner in which they did also committed welfare fraud. I look forward to charges being brought against anyone who played a role in those violating federal law here. I also look forward to Asra's next article.

In other news, the Hayfraud parents have gotten awfully quiet...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.

Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.

?? Aren’t the School Board members the ones who would make that decision? No way they put her on leave. Most of them fully support her.

I hope people are starting to figure out why one party rule isn’t good!

I’m talking about decisions on the Principal and Coach. No way they can survive this. As far as Reid, time will tell. Depends on who fight harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

14 guesses….

[Anonymous]

Is the court case on Dec 4th still on?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So serious question....
Why wouldn't Edison now be awarded the victory, Hayfraud disqualified, and Edison play on in the playoffs?

In a perfect world that's what should happen. Edison's season ended last Friday when the last whistle blew. There were no practices or game prep to play Fairfax between last Friday and today. Players were likely told we will start turning in gear and uniforms as of yesterday. Players went to school yesterday and then went home when school ended or to a friends but not to practice for a game tonight.

So yes in a perfect world, Edison in theory plays but that's not reality. They aren't going to delay the playoffs again because they already delayed once leading to last Friday's games being a week late then needing to play those second round games tonight so the Finals can be played on Saturday.

Once you hit Region and State level play, you have to move according to the schedule set forth by VHSL. I mean playoff games back in the day have been played in driving rain, freezing snow etc. You've gotta be done with the season by x date because that's what VHSL has blocked. Also, because the Final are played in college stadiums those dates are set etc.

So Edison gets to play and sorry to say likely lose to Fairfax in a perfect world but at this point it's just not a thing.

Also, I'd like to point out that if Hayfield had been out...the only likely difference between the last four teams would be West Potomac or South County still being in the playoffs as the lowest seed. Lake Braddock would've beaten Robinson, West Springfield would've beaten Mount Vernon, and Fairfax would've beaten Edison. I mean the scores might've been closer but it's unlikely those results would've been different. So yea I guess Robinson got screwed out of losing to Lake Braddock (and look I'm a Robinson alum but they weren't good this year so I don't feel bad saying they likely lose)

Yes, this is accurate. Plus, the team turned in all their equipment, and 4 of the best players were injured: two in the game and two in the practice the day before (broken finger, broken collar bone, concussion, and I believe the fourth was a broken rib).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

Since they're not playing a home game tonight, hopefully the boosters will make good use of all of that food that is being wasted.

What wasted food? The football team meal comes from the "team mom's" fundraising account, not the boosters. Chips, candy, cokes, etc is all prepacked and will keep for basketball season.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't let the homeless student athletes go without during Thanksgiving.

Are you really that obtuse? They are not homeless. They have perfectly good homes in PWC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

Since they're not playing a home game tonight, hopefully the boosters will make good use of all of that food that is being wasted.

What wasted food? The football team meal comes from the "team mom's" fundraising account, not the boosters. Chips, candy, cokes, etc is all prepacked and will keep for basketball season.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't let the homeless student athletes go without during Thanksgiving.

Are you really that obtuse? They are not homeless. They have perfectly good homes in PWC.

That hasn't been proven. You really want everybody to believe that they commuted on the daily from PWC to Hayfield? No less at the whim of whatever their schedule was?

[FrankWinston]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

Since they're not playing a home game tonight, hopefully the boosters will make good use of all of that food that is being wasted.

What wasted food? The football team meal comes from the "team mom's" fundraising account, not the boosters. Chips, candy, cokes, etc is all prepacked and will keep for basketball season.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't let the homeless student athletes go without during Thanksgiving.

Are you really that obtuse? They are not homeless. They have perfectly good homes in PWC.

The prior comment almost certainly had to be sarcasm, no?

[Anonymous]

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FrankWinston wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:Bit of an update:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/exclusive-hayfield-athletic-director-resigns-effective-dec-2-amid-widening-scandal/article_4d1b1cae-ac2a-11ef-be0f-23f1dd3c4b5e.html

BTW, I love this line: "marking the first resignation in a growing scandal..."

Asra knows she's going to spill the dirt on everyone and is just biding her time...

A Nike contract?!? for a public HS?

An exclusive deal is highly unusual for a public high school. Possibly illegal? Maybe. But not 100% sure.

Lol

I think the students at the St. John’s Academy in NW DC (independent high school) are only allowed to wear Under Amor gear due to the exclusive deal with the company’s CEO who is an alum. That’s one of the problems with these exclusive athletic sponsorships at the prep school level.

The UA deal with St. John's College High School (that's the name of the school you are referencing) doesn't forbid kids from wearing Nike, Adidas etc. If that were the case the school uniforms would have to be UA and I am almost certain they are Flynn O'Hara. The UA deal is specific to the sports teams and the school store. The school store is only allowed to sell UA clothing unless UA doesn't make the type of clothing being sold (e.g. ties) and the athletics teams are only allowed to wear UA uniforms, warmups etc. It makes sense for a UA to make a deal like this with an SJC as SJC is, to HS sports fans, a national brand and good at many sports (and it doesn't hurt that UA's founder is an SJC alum). I would be shocked if Hayfield got a deal that looks even remotely like that. Nike would keep an Overton at a very far distance.

Thanks for the explanation. Looking into this more, Nike has sponsorships with public high schools, especially in Oregon where the HQ is. But both girls and boys sports should get equal treatment, and it appears Nike is only providing uniforms for Hayfield’s popular boys sports at the moment, with the other sports in the back of the queue.

[FrankWinston]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

Since they're not playing a home game tonight, hopefully the boosters will make good use of all of that food that is being wasted.

What wasted food? The football team meal comes from the "team mom's" fundraising account, not the boosters. Chips, candy, cokes, etc is all prepacked and will keep for basketball season.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't let the homeless student athletes go without during Thanksgiving.

Are you really that obtuse? They are not homeless. They have perfectly good homes in PWC.

That hasn't been proven. You really want everybody to believe that they commuted on the daily from PWC to Hayfield? No less at the whim of whatever their schedule was?

Oh man...maybe it wasn't sarcasm. Yikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

Since they're not playing a home game tonight, hopefully the boosters will make good use of all of that food that is being wasted.

What wasted food? The football team meal comes from the "team mom's" fundraising account, not the boosters. Chips, candy, cokes, etc is all prepacked and will keep for basketball season.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't let the homeless student athletes go without during Thanksgiving.

Are you really that obtuse? They are not homeless. They have perfectly good homes in PWC.

That hasn't been proven. You really want everybody to believe that they commuted on the daily from PWC to Hayfield? No less at the whim of whatever their schedule was?

I drive 50 miles to work everyday. 15 miles is nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Asra has been on 106.7 The Fan with Grant & Danny, BMitch and Finlay… Asra & Dunne have separately mentioned having “receipts” so buckle up and get your excuses ready. What some PWC folks don’t know about FCPS, it is corrupt to the core.

FCPS is too big & way too powerful. Most parents feel helpless fighting the bureaucracy. This has been the only scandal that seems to have pierced the armor. I think each of the 8(?) regions of FCPS should be an independent school district with their own superintendent and elected school board - perhaps they can have a contract with a central transportation office and other essential services like the City of Fairfax currently has with FCPS. That gives power back to the parents & taxpayers.

St Louis runs special ed as a city/county wide school district that serves all school districts, with everything else as dozens of small, independent school districts of 1-8 high schools each, with their own school boards and policies. It is a far better model than what FCPS does.

Yea that's great for St. Louis. Welcome to Fairfax County, track the wealth gap across how those 8 independent school districts you're suggesting end up looking. Here I'll help you

Mount Vernon-West Potomac-South County-Hayfield plus all feeders. The Lorton crowd will carry the bulwark of the financial resources and because they already know that, they will fight tooth and nail not to be in the same district as MV-WP-Hayfield w/ the feeders.

Let's move on shall we...Edison-Lewis-we could throw Hayfield here instead if we're aiming for threes...well yea there's money's in pockets but there's also less money in other pockets

Let's look at Burke area...Robinson-LB-WS-maybe Annadale - money money money - Annandale doesn't bring a lot but they'll happily ride this district

Langley-McLean-Marshall

Oakton-Madison-Falls Church-Stuart - man this one isn't even hard...you ever seen rich people be totally honest about not wanting to support poor folk...get your popcorn for this one

Herndon-South Lakes - oooof you read what folks say round parts about these schools you've think it was gangland violence

Centreville-Chantilly-Westfield - they'll just all be like umnm okay we're a school district and move about their day with no sadness

Woodson-Fairfax - happily be on their merry way with this

The above doesn't even include the alternative schools like Mountain View-Quander-Pimmitt-Bryant

And then start looking at the middle and elementary schools in all this.

Plain and simple, no matter how much bureaucracy FCPS has...the wealth parts of the county finance the poorer parts in terms of education. If there were 8 separate school districts in Fairfax the absolute wealth disparity would immediately lead to a civil rights lawsuit in some form. And what would be the solution "gerrymander" the "independent districts," shoot we hate that for Congress let alone school districts remember that whole you know bussing black kids to white schools things.

And if you think I'm wrong then you live in fantasy land. Eight independent school districts and the rich folk in the poorer districts will leave for the wealthier district next door leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy of less tax revenue in those districts to help support much needed programs.

Now you're going to say, but Fairfax County would collect taxes and parse them out equally to all 8 districts. Oh they would...the voters in those districts would be totally cool with that you say. You're telling me the rich folk up Great Falls way would just be like yea we're cool with having a whole independent school district that our tax dollars finance but it's cool that we pay for them poor Route 1 schools. If you believe that you still are in fantasy land.

Look it's been talked about before but there's a pretty straightforward clear reason why it's damn near impossible to break FCPS into smaller independent entities and it all comes down to money.

Those divisions sound very smart, and a good use of resources.

But I would actually put SoCo with LB/Robinson/WSHS. Lorton is much more connected with that part of the county than anywhere else.

Annandale should be wherever Woodson goes, or wherever TJ goes.

Taxpayer dollars are split evenly between students.

ESOL and Special Ed would be 2 separate districts managed by the county, with their own pot of money based on the pupils needs, such as aide support, English immersion, mobility assistance, etc.

Impacr aide would go with the military connected kids wherever they attend,which is how the funds are actually supposed to be distributed.

Transportation and facilities run by the county.

Snow days and calendars run by the individual districts.

Independent school boards that set grading systems, curriculum, etc.

It would be a tremendous win for all students in FCPS.

Yeah, the wealthy areas will vote to be a sanctuary county and let in more immigrants, and they will happily shuffle all of those kids to the “other” schools so they don’t have to deal with them.

[Anonymous]

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FrankWinston wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:Bit of an update:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/exclusive-hayfield-athletic-director-resigns-effective-dec-2-amid-widening-scandal/article_4d1b1cae-ac2a-11ef-be0f-23f1dd3c4b5e.html

BTW, I love this line: "marking the first resignation in a growing scandal..."

Asra knows she's going to spill the dirt on everyone and is just biding her time...

A Nike contract?!? for a public HS?

An exclusive deal is highly unusual for a public high school. Possibly illegal? Maybe. But not 100% sure.

Lol

I think the students at the St. John’s Academy in NW DC (independent high school) are only allowed to wear Under Amor gear due to the exclusive deal with the company’s CEO who is an alum. That’s one of the problems with these exclusive athletic sponsorships at the prep school level.

The UA deal with St. John's College High School (that's the name of the school you are referencing) doesn't forbid kids from wearing Nike, Adidas etc. If that were the case the school uniforms would have to be UA and I am almost certain they are Flynn O'Hara. The UA deal is specific to the sports teams and the school store. The school store is only allowed to sell UA clothing unless UA doesn't make the type of clothing being sold (e.g. ties) and the athletics teams are only allowed to wear UA uniforms, warmups etc. It makes sense for a UA to make a deal like this with an SJC as SJC is, to HS sports fans, a national brand and good at many sports (and it doesn't hurt that UA's founder is an SJC alum). I would be shocked if Hayfield got a deal that looks even remotely like that. Nike would keep an Overton at a very far distance.

Thanks for the explanation. Looking into this more, Nike has sponsorships with public high schools, especially in Oregon where the HQ is. But both girls and boys sports should get equal treatment, and it appears Nike is only providing uniforms for Hayfield’s popular boys sports at the moment, with the other sports in the back of the queue.

Maybe Nike could make orange prison jumpsuits with the swish logo for Overton, the AD and everyone who had knowledge of the welfare fraud?

[Anonymous]

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder which two were homeless.

Since they're not playing a home game tonight, hopefully the boosters will make good use of all of that food that is being wasted.

What wasted food? The football team meal comes from the "team mom's" fundraising account, not the boosters. Chips, candy, cokes, etc is all prepacked and will keep for basketball season.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't let the homeless student athletes go without during Thanksgiving.

Are you really that obtuse? They are not homeless. They have perfectly good homes in PWC.

That hasn't been proven. You really want everybody to believe that they commuted on the daily from PWC to Hayfield? No less at the whim of whatever their schedule was?

Oh man...maybe it wasn't sarcasm. Yikes.

Ha! Sure wasn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:Bit of an update:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/exclusive-hayfield-athletic-director-resigns-effective-dec-2-amid-widening-scandal/article_4d1b1cae-ac2a-11ef-be0f-23f1dd3c4b5e.html

BTW, I love this line: "marking the first resignation in a growing scandal..."

Asra knows she's going to spill the dirt on everyone and is just biding her time...

A Nike contract?!? for a public HS?

An exclusive deal is highly unusual for a public high school. Possibly illegal? Maybe. But not 100% sure.

Lol

I think the students at the St. John’s Academy in NW DC (independent high school) are only allowed to wear Under Amor gear due to the exclusive deal with the company’s CEO who is an alum. That’s one of the problems with these exclusive athletic sponsorships at the prep school level.

The UA deal with St. John's College High School (that's the name of the school you are referencing) doesn't forbid kids from wearing Nike, Adidas etc. If that were the case the school uniforms would have to be UA and I am almost certain they are Flynn O'Hara. The UA deal is specific to the sports teams and the school store. The school store is only allowed to sell UA clothing unless UA doesn't make the type of clothing being sold (e.g. ties) and the athletics teams are only allowed to wear UA uniforms, warmups etc. It makes sense for a UA to make a deal like this with an SJC as SJC is, to HS sports fans, a national brand and good at many sports (and it doesn't hurt that UA's founder is an SJC alum). I would be shocked if Hayfield got a deal that looks even remotely like that. Nike would keep an Overton at a very far distance.

Thanks for the explanation. Looking into this more, Nike has sponsorships with public high schools, especially in Oregon where the HQ is. But both girls and boys sports should get equal treatment, and it appears Nike is only providing uniforms for Hayfield’s popular boys sports at the moment, with the other sports in the back of the queue.

Maybe Nike could make orange prison jumpsuits with the swish logo for Overton, the AD and everyone who had knowledge of the welfare fraud?

The AD is likely in a country that does not extradite to the US.