Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:So serious question....
Why wouldn't Edison now be awarded the victory, Hayfraud disqualified, and Edison play on in the playoffs?

In a perfect world that's what should happen. Edison's season ended last Friday when the last whistle blew. There were no practices or game prep to play Fairfax between last Friday and today. Players were likely told we will start turning in gear and uniforms as of yesterday. Players went to school yesterday and then went home when school ended or to a friends but not to practice for a game tonight.

So yes in a perfect world, Edison in theory plays but that's not reality. They aren't going to delay the playoffs again because they already delayed once leading to last Friday's games being a week late then needing to play those second round games tonight so the Finals can be played on Saturday.

Once you hit Region and State level play, you have to move according to the schedule set forth by VHSL. I mean playoff games back in the day have been played in driving rain, freezing snow etc. You've gotta be done with the season by x date because that's what VHSL has blocked. Also, because the Final are played in college stadiums those dates are set etc.

So Edison gets to play and sorry to say likely lose to Fairfax in a perfect world but at this point it's just not a thing.

Also, I'd like to point out that if Hayfield had been out...the only likely difference between the last four teams would be West Potomac or South County still being in the playoffs as the lowest seed. Lake Braddock would've beaten Robinson, West Springfield would've beaten Mount Vernon, and Fairfax would've beaten Edison. I mean the scores might've been closer but it's unlikely those results would've been different. So yea I guess Robinson got screwed out of losing to Lake Braddock (and look I'm a Robinson alum but they weren't good this year so I don't feel bad saying they likely lose)

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Anonymous wrote:All kids who are in high school now should be allowed to stay. That's insane they would try to implement something by next year.

If they are going to implement something, it should be for the entire state. It’s not fair for schools in Northern Virginia to pull from 2,000 kids zoned for the school , then compete against schools that can pull the best kids from all over the 757.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra has been on 106.7 The Fan with Grant & Danny, BMitch and Finlay… Asra & Dunne have separately mentioned having “receipts” so buckle up and get your excuses ready. What some PWC folks don’t know about FCPS, it is corrupt to the core.

FCPS is too big & way too powerful. Most parents feel helpless fighting the bureaucracy. This has been the only scandal that seems to have pierced the armor. I think each of the 8(?) regions of FCPS should be an independent school district with their own superintendent and elected school board - perhaps they can have a contract with a central transportation office and other essential services like the City of Fairfax currently has with FCPS. That gives power back to the parents & taxpayers.

St Louis runs special ed as a city/county wide school district that serves all school districts, with everything else as dozens of small, independent school districts of 1-8 high schools each, with their own school boards and policies. It is a far better model than what FCPS does.

Yea that's great for St. Louis. Welcome to Fairfax County, track the wealth gap across how those 8 independent school districts you're suggesting end up looking. Here I'll help you

Mount Vernon-West Potomac-South County-Hayfield plus all feeders. The Lorton crowd will carry the bulwark of the financial resources and because they already know that, they will fight tooth and nail not to be in the same district as MV-WP-Hayfield w/ the feeders.

Let's move on shall we...Edison-Lewis-we could throw Hayfield here instead if we're aiming for threes...well yea there's money's in pockets but there's also less money in other pockets

Let's look at Burke area...Robinson-LB-WS-maybe Annadale - money money money - Annandale doesn't bring a lot but they'll happily ride this district

Langley-McLean-Marshall

Oakton-Madison-Falls Church-Stuart - man this one isn't even hard...you ever seen rich people be totally honest about not wanting to support poor folk...get your popcorn for this one

Herndon-South Lakes - oooof you read what folks say round parts about these schools you've think it was gangland violence

Centreville-Chantilly-Westfield - they'll just all be like umnm okay we're a school district and move about their day with no sadness

Woodson-Fairfax - happily be on their merry way with this

The above doesn't even include the alternative schools like Mountain View-Quander-Pimmitt-Bryant

And then start looking at the middle and elementary schools in all this.

Plain and simple, no matter how much bureaucracy FCPS has...the wealth parts of the county finance the poorer parts in terms of education. If there were 8 separate school districts in Fairfax the absolute wealth disparity would immediately lead to a civil rights lawsuit in some form. And what would be the solution "gerrymander" the "independent districts," shoot we hate that for Congress let alone school districts remember that whole you know bussing black kids to white schools things.

And if you think I'm wrong then you live in fantasy land. Eight independent school districts and the rich folk in the poorer districts will leave for the wealthier district next door leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy of less tax revenue in those districts to help support much needed programs.

Now you're going to say, but Fairfax County would collect taxes and parse them out equally to all 8 districts. Oh they would...the voters in those districts would be totally cool with that you say. You're telling me the rich folk up Great Falls way would just be like yea we're cool with having a whole independent school district that our tax dollars finance but it's cool that we pay for them poor Route 1 schools. If you believe that you still are in fantasy land.

Look it's been talked about before but there's a pretty straightforward clear reason why it's damn near impossible to break FCPS into smaller independent entities and it all comes down to money.

Well, it's also the law in Virginia that schools are districted by county. If you want a change, write your Richmond representative now and see what happens. I agree it's far too big and sprawling - smaller divisions are leaner in every way. But that's what we have in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.

Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asra has been on 106.7 The Fan with Grant & Danny, BMitch and Finlay… Asra & Dunne have separately mentioned having “receipts” so buckle up and get your excuses ready. What some PWC folks don’t know about FCPS, it is corrupt to the core.

FCPS is too big & way too powerful. Most parents feel helpless fighting the bureaucracy. This has been the only scandal that seems to have pierced the armor. I think each of the 8(?) regions of FCPS should be an independent school district with their own superintendent and elected school board - perhaps they can have a contract with a central transportation office and other essential services like the City of Fairfax currently has with FCPS. That gives power back to the parents & taxpayers.

St Louis runs special ed as a city/county wide school district that serves all school districts, with everything else as dozens of small, independent school districts of 1-8 high schools each, with their own school boards and policies. It is a far better model than what FCPS does.

Yea that's great for St. Louis. Welcome to Fairfax County, track the wealth gap across how those 8 independent school districts you're suggesting end up looking. Here I'll help you

Mount Vernon-West Potomac-South County-Hayfield plus all feeders. The Lorton crowd will carry the bulwark of the financial resources and because they already know that, they will fight tooth and nail not to be in the same district as MV-WP-Hayfield w/ the feeders.

Let's move on shall we...Edison-Lewis-we could throw Hayfield here instead if we're aiming for threes...well yea there's money's in pockets but there's also less money in other pockets

Let's look at Burke area...Robinson-LB-WS-maybe Annadale - money money money - Annandale doesn't bring a lot but they'll happily ride this district

Langley-McLean-Marshall

Oakton-Madison-Falls Church-Stuart - man this one isn't even hard...you ever seen rich people be totally honest about not wanting to support poor folk...get your popcorn for this one

Herndon-South Lakes - oooof you read what folks say round parts about these schools you've think it was gangland violence

Centreville-Chantilly-Westfield - they'll just all be like umnm okay we're a school district and move about their day with no sadness

Woodson-Fairfax - happily be on their merry way with this

The above doesn't even include the alternative schools like Mountain View-Quander-Pimmitt-Bryant

And then start looking at the middle and elementary schools in all this.

Plain and simple, no matter how much bureaucracy FCPS has...the wealth parts of the county finance the poorer parts in terms of education. If there were 8 separate school districts in Fairfax the absolute wealth disparity would immediately lead to a civil rights lawsuit in some form. And what would be the solution "gerrymander" the "independent districts," shoot we hate that for Congress let alone school districts remember that whole you know bussing black kids to white schools things.

And if you think I'm wrong then you live in fantasy land. Eight independent school districts and the rich folk in the poorer districts will leave for the wealthier district next door leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy of less tax revenue in those districts to help support much needed programs.

Now you're going to say, but Fairfax County would collect taxes and parse them out equally to all 8 districts. Oh they would...the voters in those districts would be totally cool with that you say. You're telling me the rich folk up Great Falls way would just be like yea we're cool with having a whole independent school district that our tax dollars finance but it's cool that we pay for them poor Route 1 schools. If you believe that you still are in fantasy land.

Look it's been talked about before but there's a pretty straightforward clear reason why it's damn near impossible to break FCPS into smaller independent entities and it all comes down to money.

Those divisions sound very smart, and a good use of resources.

But I would actually put SoCo with LB/Robinson/WSHS. Lorton is much more connected with that part of the county than anywhere else.

Annandale should be wherever Woodson goes, or wherever TJ goes.

Taxpayer dollars are split evenly between students.

ESOL and Special Ed would be 2 separate districts managed by the county, with their own pot of money based on the pupils needs, such as aide support, English immersion, mobility assistance, etc.

Impacr aide would go with the military connected kids wherever they attend,which is how the funds are actually supposed to be distributed.

Transportation and facilities run by the county.

Snow days and calendars run by the individual districts.

Independent school boards that set grading systems, curriculum, etc.

It would be a tremendous win for all students in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

I wonder which two were homeless.

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Anonymous wrote:Team white supremacy wins again.

Team with only the race card to play strikes again. The fact this is the only card that continues to be played speaks volumes.

White supremacy was a thing years ago, but today's racism is different. The cheating by Overton and his people makes them victims, but the white preppy AD had to flee the country to avoid hanging. Welcome to 2024.

You are actually saying that now in 2024, racism against black people is a thing of the past and the new victim of racism is the poor white male? You are absolutely delusional. White privelege on full display right here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team white supremacy wins again.

Team with only the race card to play strikes again. The fact this is the only card that continues to be played speaks volumes.

White supremacy was a thing years ago, but today's racism is different. The cheating by Overton and his people makes them victims, but the white preppy AD had to flee the country to avoid hanging. Welcome to 2024.

You are actually saying that now in 2024, racism against black people is a thing of the past and the new victim of racism is the poor white male? You are absolutely delusional. White privelege on full display right here.

DP. From what I’ve heard, many in the Hayfield community do not think very highly of the director of activities who abruptly resigned and fled overseas.

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Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.

Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.

I'm guessing not. Reid/SB will be praying over their turkey that everybody forgets about this over the holiday break. Regional playoffs will be over on Saturday and they're hoping everybody just moves on and "is that Xmas music I hear playing? etc...."

Best thing folks can do is to be ready on Monday to hit their SB reps again, encourage our intrepid Fairfax Times reporters to keep digging, make sure Dunne gets himself on TV again etc. Early next week will be the test as to whether Reid & co. are successful in letting this story run out - or whether the absolutely critical continued attention and increased transparency/honestly happens.

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Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.

Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.

?? Aren’t the School Board members the ones who would make that decision? No way they put her on leave. Most of them fully support her.

I hope people are starting to figure out why one party rule isn’t good!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team white supremacy wins again.

Team with only the race card to play strikes again. The fact this is the only card that continues to be played speaks volumes.

White supremacy was a thing years ago, but today's racism is different. The cheating by Overton and his people makes them victims, but the white preppy AD had to flee the country to avoid hanging. Welcome to 2024.

You are actually saying that now in 2024, racism against black people is a thing of the past and the new victim of racism is the poor white male? You are absolutely delusional. White privelege on full display right here.

His comment was off target, but this cheating situation doesn't involve race.
And to try to make that pathetic deflection nd race card play is racist in itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I naively thought Reid would be put on leave today.

Thanksgiving Break started today, I think we will get announcements Sunday evening.

?? Aren’t the School Board members the ones who would make that decision? No way they put her on leave. Most of them fully support her.

I hope people are starting to figure out why one party rule isn’t good!

This isn’t a partisan issue. If you truly believe this is a partisan issue then you are lost.

This is about ethics and morals and doing the right thing. Plain and simple.

This is about accountability and consequences. Plain and simple.

The state wide rules say you can’t knowingly recruit players for high school sports. I think we’re all agreed that to some degree it does happen.

The level at which this occurred though is so big and made so blatant and so acknowledged that it’s impossible to say no no nothing actually happened like that

This is a question of now not just violating vhsl rules but also likely breaking federal laws.

I agree the board supports her but the board also gave her a contract renewal last week. And not everyone on the board agrees with how this has played out. There are at least five people who want to see some serious consequences and I will say that those five people are across the “political spectrum” in their views. But they want accountability. Fcps has a history of ending most scandals with one major scapegoat.

Someone’s going to burn honestly a lot of people need to burn. Thompson, Boyd, Reid, director of student services, let’s not forget Overton.

But right now we’re looking at Fritts being the guy that takes the brunt. Also I heard on the radio someone was like fritts was fired, to my knowledge he resigned but anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team white supremacy wins again.

Team with only the race card to play strikes again. The fact this is the only card that continues to be played speaks volumes.

White supremacy was a thing years ago, but today's racism is different. The cheating by Overton and his people makes them victims, but the white preppy AD had to flee the country to avoid hanging. Welcome to 2024.

You are actually saying that now in 2024, racism against black people is a thing of the past and the new victim of racism is the poor white male? You are absolutely delusional. White privelege on full display right here.

DP. From what I’ve heard, many in the Hayfield community do not think very highly of the director of activities who abruptly resigned and fled overseas.

That’s an accurate statement on him. Ive got a buddy who works there and AD was unpopular. But the school
Principal is also pretty unpopular and runs a good old boys type network too

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FrankWinston wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:Bit of an update:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/exclusive-hayfield-athletic-director-resigns-effective-dec-2-amid-widening-scandal/article_4d1b1cae-ac2a-11ef-be0f-23f1dd3c4b5e.html

BTW, I love this line: "marking the first resignation in a growing scandal..."

Asra knows she's going to spill the dirt on everyone and is just biding her time...

A Nike contract?!? for a public HS?

An exclusive deal is highly unusual for a public high school. Possibly illegal? Maybe. But not 100% sure.

Lol

I think the students at the St. John’s Academy in NW DC (independent high school) are only allowed to wear Under Amor gear due to the exclusive deal with the company’s CEO who is an alum. That’s one of the problems with these exclusive athletic sponsorships at the prep school level.