Senate Democrats sending secret letter about Kavanaugh to FBI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thread that captures my thoughts exactly.......

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1040662807635742720

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Perfectly sums up what sane people are thinking about this.

A rushed confirmation process for a lifeteam position, for no apparent reason, is not "sane". You are no judge of sanity.

[Anonymous]

I am surprised that no one mr tinned that Ronan Farrow broke this. Interesting for two reasons.

First, he also brought down Harvey Weinstein and Lester Moonves. Who said it was all lies and why hadn’t the woman come forward sooner. And we all saw how that worked out for them. He’s a solid reporter with a track record of getting it right. If he’s printing these allegations, they are backed up by something.

And second, Ronan Farrow would be Mia Farrow’s son. And, oh yeah, Woody Allen. Given that Woody Allen married Ronan’s step sister and is definately a perverted creep, I find it interesting that Ronan has become the journalist of MeToo. Not relevant to Kavanaugh. But interesting that Ronan has made his name taking down powerful creeps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Something just doesn't sit right with me on this accusation. (I am a liberal D).

I had the same reaction to the Rolling Stone article. This doesn't fit the profile. It is too over the top to be believable. That he held his hand on her mouth, that he turned up music so people couldnt hear her, and that another boy was there? This isn't how it typically happens. That these guys would take the risk with something that was so obviously rape, and that no one would talk about it, hear it, that she wouldn't report it or tell a friend or parent or the school. Or that the other boy wouldn't go brag to others. Rape in these settings is more insidious and devious.

Just my two cents.

(I am guessing this accuser will come forward).

Then it should be easy to dispatch with with an investigation. Just like the RS article would have been, had the reporter and her editors done their job. Let's investigate, then if everything seems good - re: sexual assault, perjury, gambling debts, and the other assorted issues - go ahead and confirm.

Just like the Russia investigation? Years? No, thank you. Ultimately, this is "he said, she said." And "she" doesn't want people to know who she is. We are not even sure of what happened. I read nothing about them trying to rape her--that has been conjecture on the part of others.

This story smells. What in the world will an investigation prove? Look at what the Rolling Stone article did to innocent young men at UVA and to a female staff member whose reputation was sullied.

Huh. Interesting take. Well, hopefully women voters will see it your way. "Ladies: let's not look into sexual assault allegations because men's lives could be ruined! Vote for us!"

It's typical that you would twist the PP's words into something she didn't say. Sure, investigate this allegation. It'll be interesting to see how you investigate when the accuser refuses an interview, the accused denies it, and there are no corroborating witnesses. Oh, and the best part - it happened 30 YEARS ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More details from https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/kavanaugh-letter-assault-supreme-court/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-14T17%3A19%3A07&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image

Kavanaugh physically pushed her into a bedroom, the accuser said. Along with another male, Kavanaugh locked the door from the inside and played loud music that the accuser said precluded successful attempts to yell for help. Both men were drunk, she said, and Kavanaugh attempted to remove her clothes.
At one point, Kavanaugh was on top of her laughing as the other male in the room periodically jumped onto Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh held his hand over her mouth at one point, and she said she felt her life was inadvertently in danger. She said she was able to leave the room and go into a hallway bathroom. After Kavanaugh and the other male began talking to others in the house, she went home. There is no indication the woman reported the incident to law enforcement at the time, but she said she has received medical treatment regarding the alleged assault.

Jesus. That's awful.

I don't know if it actually happened or not, but it sounds like something that *could* happen. It sounds like a credible account to me.

Yes, and the UVA accusation sounds like it *could* have happened. But it didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised that no one mr tinned that Ronan Farrow broke this. Interesting for two reasons.

First, he also brought down Harvey Weinstein and Lester Moonves. Who said it was all lies and why hadn’t the woman come forward sooner. And we all saw how that worked out for them. He’s a solid reporter with a track record of getting it right. If he’s printing these allegations, they are backed up by something.

And second, Ronan Farrow would be Mia Farrow’s son. And, oh yeah, Woody Allen. Given that Woody Allen married Ronan’s step sister and is definately a perverted creep, I find it interesting that Ronan has become the journalist of MeToo. Not relevant to Kavanaugh. But interesting that Ronan has made his name taking down powerful creeps.

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Ronan Farrow didn’t “break” this. Diane Feinstein waited until the eleventh hour to release information she’s had for 2 months. Why could that be?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How was she “able to get out” if they locked the door? So she wasn’t even locked in or held down? How dare Kavanaugh try (unsuccessfully) to have sex! All men should be accused of rape if they try to solicit sex!

Solicit sex, by holding someone down with your hand on her mouth? Wow!

Had they been cuddling prior to this? We don’t know. Have you ever put your hand on your husband’s mouth? Does that make you a rapist?

You’re not disproving the theory that GOPers are a bunch of criminals and rapists.

How often does your spouse cover your mouth, lock the doors, have a friend present, turn up music so your screams can’t be heard? What about this attempted sexual assault sounds consensual or normal or fun to you?

Not the PP, but why do you believe an anonymous 30 yr. old accusation, with zero proof to back it up? Could it be that it's just convenient because you don't want Kavanaugh confirmed, and you're hoping this stops his confirmation? And you people claim the GOP is "sick." Look in the mirror.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised that no one mr tinned that Ronan Farrow broke this. Interesting for two reasons.

First, he also brought down Harvey Weinstein and Lester Moonves. Who said it was all lies and why hadn’t the woman come forward sooner. And we all saw how that worked out for them. He’s a solid reporter with a track record of getting it right. If he’s printing these allegations, they are backed up by something.

And second, Ronan Farrow would be Mia Farrow’s son. And, oh yeah, Woody Allen. Given that Woody Allen married Ronan’s step sister and is definately a perverted creep, I find it interesting that Ronan has become the journalist of MeToo. Not relevant to Kavanaugh. But interesting that Ronan has made his name taking down powerful creeps.

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Ronan Farrow didn’t “break” this. Diane Feinstein waited until the eleventh hour to release information she’s had for 2 months. Why could that be?

Because it would cause a huge sh*tstorm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don't think anybody Kavanaugh's age should be held responsible for what they did in high school.

- a liberal democratic woman

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Let's play the hypothetical game: What if we learned that a man in his 50s raped a girl when they were in high school, then he blackmailed her into having an abortion?

What if we learned that a man in his 50s had consensual sex with a girl which resulted in a pregnancy when they were in HS. The man pretended he didn't know her when he learned of the pregnancy, and she was so humiliated she killed herself.

Would these be things you might find relevant? If so, how about we wait and find out what is in that letter before deciding it's NBD.

1. I’d say it would be very hard to determine whether a rape actually occurred 30-35 years ago and that an allegation surfacing now is highly suspect. I’d also think that a rapist would be in no position to blackmail the pregnant victim; if anything, the pregnant girl would then have leverage to blackmail the perpetrator.

2. I’d say the boy was a cad as a youth, but that it’s irrelevant to an assessment of his current qualifications decades later.

How about you just admit you and others would say anything to try and keep Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court?

I’m curious if you’re one of those so called “law and order” types who always wants black teens tried as adults for their crimes. I’ve noticed that white boys tend to be “misguided” or “cads” to those folks, but black teens are hardened criminals.

No, I’d rarely support trying teens (under 18), whether black or not, as adults. I might make exceptions for repeat violators charged with serious offenses.

And many black boys would indeed also deserve to be called “cads” for impregnating girls and then trying to disavow their obligations.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

It appears that the 65 women organized to write this letter unprompted.
Women tend to do that, you know. And, they organized after these baseless allegations came out.

Yep. It's almost as if... oh, I don't know... these women were *thinking for themselves*!! Imagine that, liberals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hatch Statement on Brett Kavanaugh:

Washington, DC—Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the senior member and former Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, released the following statement in response to reports of accusations made against Brett Kavanaugh, nominee for the United States Supreme Court:

“Brett Kavanaugh has done everything that’s been asked of him. He’s complied with six background checks over the last 25 years that have included interviews with friends, families, and even acquaintances, none of which have ever revealed an issue with his character. After over 30 hours of public hearing, his judicial record, qualifications, and understanding of the law stood unimpeachable. He participated in a closed hearing where Judiciary Committee members could ask any question they wanted. He answered more written questions than every previous Supreme Court nominee combined.

Judge Kavanaugh has had his words distorted and manipulated. He has been accused of having gambling problems, having financial problems, being hostile towards groups that he has actively fought for, and having bad taste in food. And he has answered questions fully and professionally, in a confirmation timeframe well within the norm for Supreme Court nominations.

I do not intend to allow Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation to be stalled because of an 11th hour accusation that Democrats did not see fit to raise for over a month. The Senator in the best position to determine the credibility of these accusations made the conscious decision not to take action on them, and the authorities to whom the accusations have been referred have decided not to take action either. Judge Kavanaugh has denied these accusations categorically, the only other potential witness has no recollection of the alleged event, and now 65 women who knew Brett in high school have come forward as witnesses of his strong character.

Every accuser deserves to be heard. But a process of verification is also necessary. In this case, the accusations were made in a private letter, which has been misrepresented in a number of media stories, from an accuser who has declined to go public and has asked for privacy. The letter sent to investigators has had her name redacted, meaning no further investigation could take place. The claims are wholly unverifiable, and come at the tail-end of a process that was already marred by ugly innuendo, dishonesty, and the nastiest form of our politics. The American people deserve much better from the Senate as an institution.”

Bravo, Sen. Hatch. Excellent statement.

[Anonymous]

Kavanaugh's buddy - his alibi - is Mark Judge, who wrote the (in)famous "I wasn't a racist until an imaginary black guy stole my bicycle" essay

https://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/the-end-of-my-white-guilt/

He's also written books on his teenage alcoholism and the orthodox Catholic sexual culture at Georgetown Prep. Google and you can find the story of how he lost his virginity after yet another drunken Georgetown Prep party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh tried to rape a girl. He did not succeed. GOP is bent upon confirming him without releasing all his record. Why?

An anonymous woman alleges Kavanaugh held her down. That's pretty much it. An allegation. How would you go about proving what she says is true?

In Maryland, there is no Statue of Limitations, and if found guilty, there is mandatory jail time.

I think Michael Avenetti should spend some time with this woman convincing her to file charges against Kavanaugh.

I really don't understand why Feinstein sat on this. She's old and needs to be replaced. I hope her charge from the left does just that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh's buddy - his alibi - is Mark Judge, who wrote the (in)famous "I wasn't a racist until an imaginary black guy stole my bicycle" essay

https://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/the-end-of-my-white-guilt/

He's also written books on his teenage alcoholism and the orthodox Catholic sexual culture at Georgetown Prep. Google and you can find the story of how he lost his virginity after yet another drunken Georgetown Prep party.

He also didn’t deny that this happened.

"Kavanaugh’s classmate said of the woman’s allegation, 'I have no recollection of that.'"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hatch Statement on Brett Kavanaugh:

Washington, DC—Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the senior member and former Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, released the following statement in response to reports of accusations made against Brett Kavanaugh, nominee for the United States Supreme Court:

“Brett Kavanaugh has done everything that’s been asked of him. He’s complied with six background checks over the last 25 years that have included interviews with friends, families, and even acquaintances, none of which have ever revealed an issue with his character. After over 30 hours of public hearing, his judicial record, qualifications, and understanding of the law stood unimpeachable. He participated in a closed hearing where Judiciary Committee members could ask any question they wanted. He answered more written questions than every previous Supreme Court nominee combined.

Judge Kavanaugh has had his words distorted and manipulated. He has been accused of having gambling problems, having financial problems, being hostile towards groups that he has actively fought for, and having bad taste in food. And he has answered questions fully and professionally, in a confirmation timeframe well within the norm for Supreme Court nominations.

I do not intend to allow Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation to be stalled because of an 11th hour accusation that Democrats did not see fit to raise for over a month. The Senator in the best position to determine the credibility of these accusations made the conscious decision not to take action on them, and the authorities to whom the accusations have been referred have decided not to take action either. Judge Kavanaugh has denied these accusations categorically, the only other potential witness has no recollection of the alleged event, and now 65 women who knew Brett in high school have come forward as witnesses of his strong character.

Every accuser deserves to be heard. But a process of verification is also necessary. In this case, the accusations were made in a private letter, which has been misrepresented in a number of media stories, from an accuser who has declined to go public and has asked for privacy. The letter sent to investigators has had her name redacted, meaning no further investigation could take place. The claims are wholly unverifiable, and come at the tail-end of a process that was already marred by ugly innuendo, dishonesty, and the nastiest form of our politics. The American people deserve much better from the Senate as an institution.”

Bravo, Sen. Hatch. Excellent statement.

Oh, yeah, right "Hatch" wrote this!!! Ho ho. The man can't find the end of his finger to pick his nose.

This process was in no way transparent. "Hatch" failed to mention the 100K documents Trumpus withheld from Democrats on the Judiciary Committee. An inspection of those documents might have revealed a lot more we don't know about Kavanaugh. Why did they hide them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hatch Statement on Brett Kavanaugh:

Washington, DC—Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the senior member and former Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, released the following statement in response to reports of accusations made against Brett Kavanaugh, nominee for the United States Supreme Court:

“Brett Kavanaugh has done everything that’s been asked of him. He’s complied with six background checks over the last 25 years that have included interviews with friends, families, and even acquaintances, none of which have ever revealed an issue with his character. After over 30 hours of public hearing, his judicial record, qualifications, and understanding of the law stood unimpeachable. He participated in a closed hearing where Judiciary Committee members could ask any question they wanted. He answered more written questions than every previous Supreme Court nominee combined.

Judge Kavanaugh has had his words distorted and manipulated. He has been accused of having gambling problems, having financial problems, being hostile towards groups that he has actively fought for, and having bad taste in food. And he has answered questions fully and professionally, in a confirmation timeframe well within the norm for Supreme Court nominations.

I do not intend to allow Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation to be stalled because of an 11th hour accusation that Democrats did not see fit to raise for over a month. The Senator in the best position to determine the credibility of these accusations made the conscious decision not to take action on them, and the authorities to whom the accusations have been referred have decided not to take action either. Judge Kavanaugh has denied these accusations categorically, the only other potential witness has no recollection of the alleged event, and now 65 women who knew Brett in high school have come forward as witnesses of his strong character.

Every accuser deserves to be heard. But a process of verification is also necessary. In this case, the accusations were made in a private letter, which has been misrepresented in a number of media stories, from an accuser who has declined to go public and has asked for privacy. The letter sent to investigators has had her name redacted, meaning no further investigation could take place. The claims are wholly unverifiable, and come at the tail-end of a process that was already marred by ugly innuendo, dishonesty, and the nastiest form of our politics. The American people deserve much better from the Senate as an institution.”

Bravo, Sen. Hatch. Excellent statement.

Ahhhh. Orin Hatch. The guy who made Anita Hill’s life a living hell. Bravo on Act II.