Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Did someone say Caldeans?
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Anonymous wrote:I hope Hamas can be defeated soon so that the kids won't be suffering any more.


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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.

Well when you research things like the 1950-1951 Baghdad bombings and the
Israeli black panther movement in the 70s, you would realize why Mizrahis started getting catered to by the Israeli right.
They realized they were susceptible to aligning with their fellow Arabic speaking Palestinians over Russian and German Jews.

Mizrahis are just army labor for the Ashkenazis and the Israeli project. They’ve never made it to prime minister or chief of Mossad despite their knowledge of Arabic and higher population in Israel. Israel is a white Nazi state
or maybe, the Mizrahi remember living as a minority under Arab rule and don't ever want to be in that situation again.


Most Mizrahis had good lives in the Middle East as first class citizens and left their wealth and villas behind to live in slums in Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Zionists also attacked Jews in Egypt, Morocco, and Yemen as well to make them flee. They were trying to populate their own country but Jews didn't want to leave. Many still remain in those countries today.

What's quite sad is how these non-European Jews have been treated. There are numerous books written about the discrimination they've experienced.

Mizrahi Jews have been subject to ghettoisation, cultural theft, and medical experimentation
The Yemenite Children Affair is where they stole Yemenite Jewish babies and forced them in European Jewish families.
Ethiopian Jews have a long history of being discriminated and were forcefully sterilized to keep their population down

This is not surprising because the history of Zionism is one of racism and White European supremacy



FYI the one the main reasons why DNA tests are not allowed in Israel is because so many yemeni babies were stolen and DNA tests would reveal this horrific history.


Lol. Stolen by whom exactly? And why?
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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Zionists also attacked Jews in Egypt, Morocco, and Yemen as well to make them flee. They were trying to populate their own country but Jews didn't want to leave. Many still remain in those countries today.

What's quite sad is how these non-European Jews have been treated. There are numerous books written about the discrimination they've experienced.

Mizrahi Jews have been subject to ghettoisation, cultural theft, and medical experimentation
The Yemenite Children Affair is where they stole Yemenite Jewish babies and forced them in European Jewish families.
Ethiopian Jews have a long history of being discriminated and were forcefully sterilized to keep their population down

This is not surprising because the history of Zionism is one of racism and White European supremacy


Oh give it a rest. Jewish attachment to the land goes back to 1200 BC.


Most of the indigenous Jewish people converted to Christianity and Islam and trace their ancestry to the Canaanites and represent the modern day Palestinians. They have much stronger claims to being the "chosen people" if you believe in that bullshit. Don't claim your god promised the land to people from Poland and Brooklyn 3000 years ago.


Here we go again with your primitive tribal warfare for millennia and millennia
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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Zionists also attacked Jews in Egypt, Morocco, and Yemen as well to make them flee. They were trying to populate their own country but Jews didn't want to leave. Many still remain in those countries today.

What's quite sad is how these non-European Jews have been treated. There are numerous books written about the discrimination they've experienced.

Mizrahi Jews have been subject to ghettoisation, cultural theft, and medical experimentation
The Yemenite Children Affair is where they stole Yemenite Jewish babies and forced them in European Jewish families.
Ethiopian Jews have a long history of being discriminated and were forcefully sterilized to keep their population down

This is not surprising because the history of Zionism is one of racism and White European supremacy


Oh give it a rest. Jewish attachment to the land goes back to 1200 BC.


Dp.

So?

You don't get special dibs because you shared a myth with someone from thousands of years ago.


So… The history of Zionism is not about “white European supremacy.” Please read the thread so you can keep up.


Exactly, it's a settler colonial project meant to create a religious ethnostate at the expense and elimination of the indigenous Arab population.

What’s your solution? Ethnically cleanse the Jews so the Arabs can take back the land?

They are not living together in a one state solution. Not without one side oppressing the other in some way. There’s too much hate.


There’s not too much hate. 20% of Israel is Arab. 20% of the West Bank is Israeli. Jerusalem is a mixed city where they literally pray side by side.

Jewish and Palestinians Civilians are not killing each other en masse despite the war in Gaza.

The idea that they can’t get along is not correct. Most of them just want to live.

The problem is the ideologues and extremist violent actors make it harder for everyone


Let’s put Hamas in charge there too and see what happens!!
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Anonymous wrote:I hope Hamas can be defeated soon so that the kids won't be suffering any more.


+1


What Zionists are really advocating for is wiping out all Palestinians so that the kids won't be suffering any more permanently.

Netanyahu invoking Amalek
"do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants,”

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/07/1211133201/netanyahus-references-to-violent-biblical-passages-raise-alarm-among-critics
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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Zionists also attacked Jews in Egypt, Morocco, and Yemen as well to make them flee. They were trying to populate their own country but Jews didn't want to leave. Many still remain in those countries today.

What's quite sad is how these non-European Jews have been treated. There are numerous books written about the discrimination they've experienced.

Mizrahi Jews have been subject to ghettoisation, cultural theft, and medical experimentation
The Yemenite Children Affair is where they stole Yemenite Jewish babies and forced them in European Jewish families.
Ethiopian Jews have a long history of being discriminated and were forcefully sterilized to keep their population down

This is not surprising because the history of Zionism is one of racism and White European supremacy



FYI the one the main reasons why DNA tests are not allowed in Israel is because so many yemeni babies were stolen and DNA tests would reveal this horrific history.


Lol. Stolen by whom exactly? And why?


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/middleeast/israel-yemenite-children-affair.html
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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Zionists also attacked Jews in Egypt, Morocco, and Yemen as well to make them flee. They were trying to populate their own country but Jews didn't want to leave. Many still remain in those countries today.

What's quite sad is how these non-European Jews have been treated. There are numerous books written about the discrimination they've experienced.

Mizrahi Jews have been subject to ghettoisation, cultural theft, and medical experimentation
The Yemenite Children Affair is where they stole Yemenite Jewish babies and forced them in European Jewish families.
Ethiopian Jews have a long history of being discriminated and were forcefully sterilized to keep their population down

This is not surprising because the history of Zionism is one of racism and White European supremacy


Oh give it a rest. Jewish attachment to the land goes back to 1200 BC.


Dp.

So?

You don't get special dibs because you shared a myth with someone from thousands of years ago.


So… The history of Zionism is not about “white European supremacy.” Please read the thread so you can keep up.


Exactly, it's a settler colonial project meant to create a religious ethnostate at the expense and elimination of the indigenous Arab population.

What’s your solution? Ethnically cleanse the Jews so the Arabs can take back the land?

They are not living together in a one state solution. Not without one side oppressing the other in some way. There’s too much hate.


There’s not too much hate. 20% of Israel is Arab. 20% of the West Bank is Israeli. Jerusalem is a mixed city where they literally pray side by side.

Jewish and Palestinians Civilians are not killing each other en masse despite the war in Gaza.

The idea that they can’t get along is not correct. Most of them just want to live.

The problem is the ideologues and extremist violent actors make it harder for everyone


Thank you for this perspective. We need to give peace and love a chance to prevail by removing Hamas and the IDF.
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Why aren’t people like OP going to Gaza or sending checks to Hamas right now? Time to embrace direct action.
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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?


Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.


Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.


Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.


That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.


Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.



Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.


Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?


Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.


No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.


Even if it’s 1/2 of the reports (which I doubt)-that’s a whole lot of dead women and children in Gaza. Plus the foreign aid workers who the IDF accidentally killed as they tried to distribute food and medicine. So in your world the lives of 20k Palestinians are worth much less than 1,125 dead Israelis? There is a name for people who think that way….


I mean, the IDF targeted and bombed the World Central Kitchen workers THREE TIMES. The first strike didn’t kill everyone, so they got out of vans and fled and they were ALL ASSASINATED. And yet we as a loose group of Westerners did NOTHING to seek something like justice or even transparent answered for our nationals, who were there simply to provide food.

I used to be in these threads and the way pro-Netanyahu trolls live here just disgusts me. Nothing is enough. The goal is to kill all Palestinians in Gaza and pretend to have a moral high ground to have the US and other Western nations supply young soldiers, endless money and limitless weapons to Israel. Why? When is enough enough?


Unadulterated nonsense. This started with an evil act of terror on innocent civilians. It’s not pretending to have the moral high ground - no people capable of such atrocities as October 7 could have ever claimed it.


An evil act of terror that used pickup trucks and hot air balloons? Israel couldve stopped it and refused. They stopped missiles from Iran but couldn’t stop men without aircraft taking people by hand and foot? Israel couldve been at the Gaza border stopping the trucks Within seconds. Israel’s army commanders are also puzzled as to why Netanyahu put a pause to that.

Netanyahu wanted captives taken because he wanted a war to avoid going to jail or resignation.

Until Israelis face that truth, Hamas won’t be eliminated. Netanyahu wants them there


This.

Hamas is essentially an arm of Netanyahu's plan.

I find it insane that anyone thinks Hamas carried out the events of October 7th without complicity of the Israeli government.


They won’t admit it to us non jews but they know Netanyahu is a straight up loser. It’s kinda like the Palestinians who don’t want to condemn Hamas. Nobody wants to admit their guy is the jackass

Plenty of Jews, including Israeli Jews, openly admit they hate Bibi. There were and are regular protests against him in Israel.


The Gazans actually don’t have a chance to vote. The Israelis do and they pick the jackass every time. So sure, there are protests against him. But it seems to be an insignificant minority.
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170 kitchens are now closing down due to Israeli aid blockade.

Where else was the atrocity of hunger used as a weapon of war? Oh yeah, in the Warsaw ghetto by Nazis. Sounds like Gaza right now.

"Germans put Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland into ghettos which restricted their movement and, most crucially for their survival, access to food"

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/atrocity-of-hunger/atrocity-of-hunger/5CEC26E00C7DB5E64AD53AEAC9F6A8F6
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/5/9/headlines/community_kitchens_in_gaza_shutter_as_israels_genocide_continues_with_bombings_and_starvation
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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.


The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.


Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?




DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.


Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.



You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.


Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.


Zionists also attacked Jews in Egypt, Morocco, and Yemen as well to make them flee. They were trying to populate their own country but Jews didn't want to leave. Many still remain in those countries today.

What's quite sad is how these non-European Jews have been treated. There are numerous books written about the discrimination they've experienced.

Mizrahi Jews have been subject to ghettoisation, cultural theft, and medical experimentation
The Yemenite Children Affair is where they stole Yemenite Jewish babies and forced them in European Jewish families.
Ethiopian Jews have a long history of being discriminated and were forcefully sterilized to keep their population down

This is not surprising because the history of Zionism is one of racism and White European supremacy


Oh give it a rest. Jewish attachment to the land goes back to 1200 BC.


Dp.

So?

You don't get special dibs because you shared a myth with someone from thousands of years ago.


So… The history of Zionism is not about “white European supremacy.” Please read the thread so you can keep up.


Exactly, it's a settler colonial project meant to create a religious ethnostate at the expense and elimination of the indigenous Arab population.

What’s your solution? Ethnically cleanse the Jews so the Arabs can take back the land?

They are not living together in a one state solution. Not without one side oppressing the other in some way. There’s too much hate.


There’s not too much hate. 20% of Israel is Arab. 20% of the West Bank is Israeli. Jerusalem is a mixed city where they literally pray side by side.

Jewish and Palestinians Civilians are not killing each other en masse despite the war in Gaza.

The idea that they can’t get along is not correct. Most of them just want to live.

The problem is the ideologues and extremist violent actors make it harder for everyone
Yet Bibi has been in charge for 18 years. How is that possible if Palestinians and Israelis get along so well?
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Anonymous wrote:170 kitchens are now closing down due to Israeli aid blockade.

Where else was the atrocity of hunger used as a weapon of war? Oh yeah, in the Warsaw ghetto by Nazis. Sounds like Gaza right now.

"Germans put Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland into ghettos which restricted their movement and, most crucially for their survival, access to food"

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/atrocity-of-hunger/atrocity-of-hunger/5CEC26E00C7DB5E64AD53AEAC9F6A8F6
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/5/9/headlines/community_kitchens_in_gaza_shutter_as_israels_genocide_continues_with_bombings_and_starvation


President from Poland emulates governor of Poland... Interesting
Anonymous
Yall know that there are hungry children living in de facto war zones right here in the US. You spending any time on them.
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