MOCO BOE update: Beidleman Report summary

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I think they are all going to refer to the IG investigation and say they have to wait for that.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, she shouldn’t call him “babe” at school if she doesn’t want people to believe or spread rumors about their affair.


So you're saying you think she deserves it? Fine. Go ahead and justify your gossiping all you want. She can still sue you. She can sue the principal as well if he was part of the gossip mill.


It’s not gossip when it’s true. Maybe this will show mcps subordinates that they too will be held accountable for acting unprofessional in the work place.


You're working overtime to justify your behavior. Guess what. Gossip is gossip. You're the kind of coworker I try to avoid. Not because I have anything to hide, but because you're just not a nice person.


Hold yourself accountable as an adult and knowing how to act appropriately in the workplace.


Seems like a troll who is obsessed with spreading unsubstantiated rumors because it serves their crusade against McKnight.


No worries. McKnight is already in a ton of substantiated trouble.


Only because of imaginary evidence and gossip


So all the kids imagined being called hoes?
Or is Beidleman an imaginary person?


source?


I swear people love to spin stuff to fit their narrative. If you don’t like the man just leave it at that. If you’re mad he suspended your kid just leave it at that.


It's funny how so many people don't like this man and are angry he's still employed by MCPS (source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/11/joel-beidleman-montgomery-county-principal/ ):

- "MCPS treated Beidleman as a rising star. Despite six staff members’ reports to MCPS about his conduct in 2023, officials promoted him in June to run Paint Branch High School in Burtonsville, a position that oversees a larger staff than Farquhar’s and would have raised his salary by $32,000, to $191,000."
- “He is the most vindictive person I’ve ever met,” a Farquhar English teacher said. “Even teachers who left Farquhar are scared of him to this day,” said former Farquhar media assistant Cathy Stanton, who departed MCPS in 2021 because of what she called the school’s “toxic leadership.”
- "In July 2017, former Farquhar PTA president Chelsea Curtis said she hand-delivered a letter to the central office that carbon-copied the principal to request a change of schools for her younger children after Beidleman told her eighth-grade daughter: “Don’t be like [your friend]. She’s a whore.” MCPS granted the transfer."
- "During two Jan. 31, 2018, assemblies for seventh- and eighth-grade students and staff, Beidleman lamented that Farquhar girls were dressing and acting “like hos and thots” (both derogatory terms for promiscuous women), according to multiple witnesses."
- "When parents complained about the assembly, then-Director of School Support and Improvement Eric Minus, Beidleman’s boss, spoke with teachers. One told him about additional instances of workplace misconduct, the teacher said in an interview. But when another tried to do the same, Minus asked to confine the discussion to what Beidleman had said at the assemblies, she said. Several educators were aware that the two men were friends."
- "He berated, humiliated or yelled at staff frequently, according to more than two dozen educators. "
- "A Lakelands teacher said she left that school because of Beidleman, who on numerous occasions “screamed in my face.”
- "Teachers at Lakelands, Clemente and Farquhar said Beidleman often commented on women’s bodies and outfits. During two annual Farquhar staff presentations about professional attire, he showed a picture of a woman’s midsection in tight leggings and said, “Camel toe is not allowed,” several attendees said."
- "When a male science teacher told Beidleman his wife was pregnant, the principal replied that his wife would “change for the worse,” the teacher recounted in an email to Walker obtained by The Post."
- "A teacher told The Post that Beidleman said to her in front of a colleague, who confirmed the conversation in an interview: “You look like you peg your husband and that you do butt stuff.” When that teacher disagreed with Beidleman in discussions, she and a witness said the principal told her: “Maybe your husband needs lessons in bed so you can be calmed down.” The comments were memorialized in a list of aggressions toward staff compiled by Farquhar’s building union representative this year."
- "In April 2021, Beidleman invited an MCPS teacher who had worked with him previously to apply to be his assistant principal at Farquhar, she said....Beidleman told The Post the teacher’s candidacy was rejected “prior to any personal conversations.” But screenshots from the teacher’s phone show that he texted personal messages, including lewd ones, to her more than 400 times between the day he asked if she wanted the job and the date she was informed that she would not be considered for the role."



Yes, we know all this happened before McKnight was in charge. So glad she's cleaning up this mess.


How is Dr. McKnight cleaning up the mess? Her administration promoted Beidleman to Principal at Paint Branch. During McKnight’s tenure as Interim Superintendent and Superintendent, the allegations were reported but not addressed.

Dr. McKnight is part of the problem and should be held accountable.


She wasn't Super when all the events listed above happened. You really can't have it both ways.


So this is like how Obama didn't start the war in Afghanistan therefore he is not responsible for what happened there under his watch?


Exactly! She's just there to clean up the previous super's mess.


Thank goodness she was there when Biedleman came up for promotion...
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Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


All of them will be there tomorrow.
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Anonymous wrote:I think they are all going to refer to the IG investigation and say they have to wait for that.


The IG is one of the expected attendees tomorrow.
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Anonymous wrote:I think they are all going to refer to the IG investigation and say they have to wait for that.


The IG is one of the expected attendees tomorrow.


And she won’t say anything.
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Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.
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Anonymous wrote:I think they are all going to refer to the IG investigation and say they have to wait for that.


The IG is one of the expected attendees tomorrow.


I can't imagine she can answer any substantive questions at this point. Maybe she can give then a timeline.
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Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


I don’t think that’s what the PP meant. All 11 members are showing up. I expect hard questions from Luedtke, Fani-Gonzalez, Friedson, and Stewart.

If this is a witch hunt, how do you explain MCPS’s failure to follow its own investigations policy and the other serious systemic failures that were identified by MCPS’s own lawyers?
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Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


I don’t think that’s what the PP meant. All 11 members are showing up. I expect hard questions from Luedtke, Fani-Gonzalez, Friedson, and Stewart.

If this is a witch hunt, how do you explain MCPS’s failure to follow its own investigations policy and the other serious systemic failures that were identified by MCPS’s own lawyers?


Can you please elaborate and substantiate these failures? All I've gotten from this is a bunch of gossip and innuendo from some people that seem to have a bone to pick with public schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


I don’t think that’s what the PP meant. All 11 members are showing up. I expect hard questions from Luedtke, Fani-Gonzalez, Friedson, and Stewart.

If this is a witch hunt, how do you explain MCPS’s failure to follow its own investigations policy and the other serious systemic failures that were identified by MCPS’s own lawyers?


Can you please elaborate and substantiate these failures? All I've gotten from this is a bunch of gossip and innuendo from some people that seem to have a bone to pick with public schools.


DP. That has been done already by The Washington Post.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


Anyone calling the Biedleman investigation, and subsequent dive into the failings of MCPS leadership a "witch hunt" is so impossibly biased, I don't think we can even have a conversation with them.

As for Jawando, he always loves to get a sound bite or two if he thinks it will help his self interest, and I can't imagine he has any reason whatsoever to cover for Biedleman or MCPS in any way. If anything he may come out heavy today compared to the rest of the council.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


I don’t think that’s what the PP meant. All 11 members are showing up. I expect hard questions from Luedtke, Fani-Gonzalez, Friedson, and Stewart.

If this is a witch hunt, how do you explain MCPS’s failure to follow its own investigations policy and the other serious systemic failures that were identified by MCPS’s own lawyers?


Can you please elaborate and substantiate these failures? All I've gotten from this is a bunch of gossip and innuendo from some people that seem to have a bone to pick with public schools.


Chris Cram, your email automatic reply says you are unavailable until next week. Are you unavailable so you can spend all your time posting the same inane comments on this thread?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


I don’t think that’s what the PP meant. All 11 members are showing up. I expect hard questions from Luedtke, Fani-Gonzalez, Friedson, and Stewart.

If this is a witch hunt, how do you explain MCPS’s failure to follow its own investigations policy and the other serious systemic failures that were identified by MCPS’s own lawyers?


Can you please elaborate and substantiate these failures? All I've gotten from this is a bunch of gossip and innuendo from some people that seem to have a bone to pick with public schools.


DP. That has been done already by The Washington Post.


+1 the below is just some excerpts from the WaPo investigation. I left out the most obscene quotes from Biedleman.

( source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023...ry-county-principal/ )

- "MCPS treated Beidleman as a rising star. Despite six staff members’ reports to MCPS about his conduct in 2023, officials promoted him in June to run Paint Branch High School in Burtonsville, a position that oversees a larger staff than Farquhar’s and would have raised his salary by $32,000, to $191,000."
- “He is the most vindictive person I’ve ever met,” a Farquhar English teacher said. “Even teachers who left Farquhar are scared of him to this day,” said former Farquhar media assistant Cathy Stanton, who departed MCPS in 2021 because of what she called the school’s “toxic leadership.”
- "In July 2017, former Farquhar PTA president Chelsea Curtis said she hand-delivered a letter to the central office that carbon-copied the principal to request a change of schools for her younger children after Beidleman told her eighth-grade daughter: “Don’t be like [your friend]. She’s a whore.” MCPS granted the transfer."
- "During two Jan. 31, 2018, assemblies for seventh- and eighth-grade students and staff, Beidleman lamented that Farquhar girls were dressing and acting “like hos and thots” (both derogatory terms for promiscuous women), according to multiple witnesses."
- "When parents complained about the assembly, then-Director of School Support and Improvement Eric Minus, Beidleman’s boss, spoke with teachers. One told him about additional instances of workplace misconduct, the teacher said in an interview. But when another tried to do the same, Minus asked to confine the discussion to what Beidleman had said at the assemblies, she said. Several educators were aware that the two men were friends."
- "He berated, humiliated or yelled at staff frequently, according to more than two dozen educators. "
- "A Lakelands teacher said she left that school because of Beidleman, who on numerous occasions “screamed in my face.”
- "Teachers at Lakelands, Clemente and Farquhar said Beidleman often commented on women’s bodies and outfits. During two annual Farquhar staff presentations about professional attire, he showed a picture of a woman’s midsection in tight leggings and said, “Camel toe is not allowed,” several attendees said."
- "When a male science teacher told Beidleman his wife was pregnant, the principal replied that his wife would “change for the worse,” the teacher recounted in an email to Walker obtained by The Post."
- "A teacher told The Post that Beidleman said to her in front of a colleague, who confirmed the conversation in an interview: “You look like you peg your husband and that you do butt stuff.” When that teacher disagreed with Beidleman in discussions, she and a witness said the principal told her: “Maybe your husband needs lessons in bed so you can be calmed down.” The comments were memorialized in a list of aggressions toward staff compiled by Farquhar’s building union representative this year."
- "In April 2021, Beidleman invited an MCPS teacher who had worked with him previously to apply to be his assistant principal at Farquhar, she said....Beidleman told The Post the teacher’s candidacy was rejected “prior to any personal conversations.” But screenshots from the teacher’s phone show that he texted personal messages, including lewd ones, to her more than 400 times between the day he asked if she wanted the job and the date she was informed that she would not be considered for the role."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will any of the council members ask tough questions at the work session tomorrow or will it just be softballs?



It's only E&C right? Jawando, Mink, Albornoz. Albornoz does not ask tough questions. Mink can, not sure if she will. I think Jawando is too biased to do any real good.


If by biased you mean Jawando has to much integrity to be part of this witch hunt then sure.


Anyone calling the Biedleman investigation, and subsequent dive into the failings of MCPS leadership a "witch hunt" is so impossibly biased, I don't think we can even have a conversation with them.

As for Jawando, he always loves to get a sound bite or two if he thinks it will help his self interest, and I can't imagine he has any reason whatsoever to cover for Biedleman or MCPS in any way. If anything he may come out heavy today compared to the rest of the council.


Especially since he's running for Senate (and has no chance).
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The whole County Council has pulled up in force.
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