Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.

Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.

It is the same map that was posted last week except woodland-normanstone is moved to 3C

Posted where?

With all the stuff about "underrepresented" apartment dwellers and SFH "NIMBYs" it should be noted that the one change to her Task Force's map that Mary Cheh consistently championed was to cater to the concerns of her constituents who live in some of the most expensive real estate ($10M homes) in the District.

Keeping Woodland Normanstone whole in Woodley Park ANC.

There are like 50 people that actually live there. It doesn't affect that many people so I'm not going to get up in arms about it. And since so few people live there it is easy to move them in and out of SMDs without throwing off population numbers.

You know why? Cause we have big and nice lots on both sides of your artificial little petty border.

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And private roads. And lots of funding. And we are liberal. But now we don’t care any longer. Go canvas the apartment buildings, just don’t get hurt

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Anonymous wrote:And private roads. And lots of funding. And we are liberal. But now we don’t care any longer. Go canvas the apartment buildings, just don’t get hurt

Wasn't that the point of the new maps that Cheh championed? Keep more single family owners together and largely away from CT/WI ave where the condos/apts/duplexes are? Not saying they did a perfect job, but now most SMDs don't touch both WI/CT.

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Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.

Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.

It is the same map that was posted last week except woodland-normanstone is moved to 3C

Posted where?

With all the stuff about "underrepresented" apartment dwellers and SFH "NIMBYs" it should be noted that the one change to her Task Force's map that Mary Cheh consistently championed was to cater to the concerns of her constituents who live in some of the most expensive real estate ($10M homes) in the District.

Keeping Woodland Normanstone whole in Woodley Park ANC.

There are like 50 people that actually live there. It doesn't affect that many people so I'm not going to get up in arms about it. And since so few people live there it is easy to move them in and out of SMDs without throwing off population numbers.

You know why? Cause we have big and nice lots on both sides of your artificial little petty border.

Besides the fact that Uber-wealthy donors likely have Cheh's ear, this pretty, leafy enclave is not an attractive, vibrant dense mixed-use high opportunity area. No special interests are pushing for access to it.

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No, they split up the wealthy areas

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I fervently hope no one ever he cause to call my little block, vibrant. Ouch

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Anonymous wrote:No, they split up the wealthy areas

But not the uber-wealhy areas of ANC 3C. They also left Cheh's Forest Hills alone.

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Have you seen Cheh’s block? Her house? Modest, at best.

They split very wealthy Woodley Park, and Cleveland Park, and for what?

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Anonymous wrote:What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?

So ironic that you reference “stop the steal” when the task force member who pushed the neighborhood split (and is part of the Smart Growth lobby) is so connected to Trumpworld, the national GOP and even Russian meddling in Ukrainian politics. And it’s worth noting that CP Smart Growth has been exposed as a non-transparent, astroturf group formed by a political consultant. It’s basically the same handful of people retweeting each other’s posts in an echo chamber and meeting over beer and wings at Nanny O'Briens. They have had some political success, to be sure. When one works with Manafort and the guy who did the Willie Horton ad, you learn to play an aggressive game.

The wings at Nanny's are good, so I'll give them credit for that. But if it is such a small echo chamber, why are they winning? If most people don't agree with them, it would seem no amount of retweeting each others tweets would be very effective. "Astroturf" implies there is no grassroots support, which I think has been disproven in a pretty compelling way given the engagement we've seen for things like the Macklin, the last ANC election, Connecticut Ave lane study, support for more CT Av density. There are actually a lot of residents that agree with them. And I think this continued succession of defeats is contributing to this truly bizarre level of person attacks that have nothing to do with redistricting or any of these other issues. What I don't see is the next generation of residents that will wage the battles to preserve the status quo, so maybe we are nearing the end of an error.

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The people coming up WANT bike facilities, WANT walkable neighborhoods, WANT affordable housing WANT diversity, WANT a car free or car light means of living. There simply aren't more entitled boomers who want the 1950's ideals anymore.

Good riddance.

I’ll bite. Since you deleted those previous posts: happy for you to densify Wisconsin and Connecticut and support bike paths etc, and frankly it will add up to gentrification. You can’t do anything about SFHs because we are protected. So we get the best of the both worlds. The only issue is that with redistricting and being called NIMBYs we have no incentive to engage with you and will let you get at each other for little gains. Meanwhile our houses will just go up and there’s maybe 2 “grey hairs” on my entire leafy street. Children are moving in and many of us younger people made money and bought. So you ignore us at your own peril

If you think Ward 3 is going to be gentrified, then I don't think you understand the meaning of the word in context.

And only the site owner can delete posts. I have no idea what posts were deleted.

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Anonymous wrote:What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?

So ironic that you reference “stop the steal” when the task force member who pushed the neighborhood split (and is part of the Smart Growth lobby) is so connected to Trumpworld, the national GOP and even Russian meddling in Ukrainian politics. And it’s worth noting that CP Smart Growth has been exposed as a non-transparent, astroturf group formed by a political consultant. It’s basically the same handful of people retweeting each other’s posts in an echo chamber and meeting over beer and wings at Nanny O'Briens. They have had some political success, to be sure. When one works with Manafort and the guy who did the Willie Horton ad, you learn to play an aggressive game.

The wings at Nanny's are good, so I'll give them credit for that. But if it is such a small echo chamber, why are they winning? If most people don't agree with them, it would seem no amount of retweeting each others tweets would be very effective. "Astroturf" implies there is no grassroots support, which I think has been disproven in a pretty compelling way given the engagement we've seen for things like the Macklin, the last ANC election, Connecticut Ave lane study, support for more CT Av density. There are actually a lot of residents that agree with them. And I think this continued succession of defeats is contributing to this truly bizarre level of person attacks that have nothing to do with redistricting or any of these other issues. What I don't see is the next generation of residents that will wage the battles to preserve the status quo, so maybe we are nearing the end of an error.

+1

The people coming up WANT bike facilities, WANT walkable neighborhoods, WANT affordable housing WANT diversity, WANT a car free or car light means of living. There simply aren't more entitled boomers who want the 1950's ideals anymore.

Good riddance.

I’ll bite. Since you deleted those previous posts: happy for you to densify Wisconsin and Connecticut and support bike paths etc, and frankly it will add up to gentrification. You can’t do anything about SFHs because we are protected. So we get the best of the both worlds. The only issue is that with redistricting and being called NIMBYs we have no incentive to engage with you and will let you get at each other for little gains. Meanwhile our houses will just go up and there’s maybe 2 “grey hairs” on my entire leafy street. Children are moving in and many of us younger people made money and bought. So you ignore us at your own peril

LOL - Cleveland Park might be gentrified! I was going to say it is hard to believe someone dumb as a rock can afford to buy in Cleveland Park but then I remembered that most lawyers are dumb as rocks.

How is it dumb to let you do exactly what we want you to do while you think you’re sticking it to the so-called nimbys (most of whom are lovely liberal people)?

Liberal people who got theirs and fight tooth and nail to let others into their neightborhood; good liberals who favor parking for their cars over green transportation like bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.

Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.

It is the same map that was posted last week except woodland-normanstone is moved to 3C

Posted where?

With all the stuff about "underrepresented" apartment dwellers and SFH "NIMBYs" it should be noted that the one change to her Task Force's map that Mary Cheh consistently championed was to cater to the concerns of her constituents who live in some of the most expensive real estate ($10M homes) in the District.

Keeping Woodland Normanstone whole in Woodley Park ANC.

Woodland-Normanstone is in Woodley Park, it makes sense to keep those together.

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Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.

Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.

It is the same map that was posted last week except woodland-normanstone is moved to 3C

Posted where?

With all the stuff about "underrepresented" apartment dwellers and SFH "NIMBYs" it should be noted that the one change to her Task Force's map that Mary Cheh consistently championed was to cater to the concerns of her constituents who live in some of the most expensive real estate ($10M homes) in the District.

Keeping Woodland Normanstone whole in Woodley Park ANC.

There are like 50 people that actually live there. It doesn't affect that many people so I'm not going to get up in arms about it. And since so few people live there it is easy to move them in and out of SMDs without throwing off population numbers.

You know why? Cause we have big and nice lots on both sides of your artificial little petty border.

Besides the fact that Uber-wealthy donors likely have Cheh's ear, this pretty, leafy enclave is not an attractive, vibrant dense mixed-use high opportunity area. No special interests are pushing for access to it.

It is attractive, but not vibrant. But it is also 2 blocks from the Woodley Park metro.

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Anonymous wrote:What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?

So ironic that you reference “stop the steal” when the task force member who pushed the neighborhood split (and is part of the Smart Growth lobby) is so connected to Trumpworld, the national GOP and even Russian meddling in Ukrainian politics. And it’s worth noting that CP Smart Growth has been exposed as a non-transparent, astroturf group formed by a political consultant. It’s basically the same handful of people retweeting each other’s posts in an echo chamber and meeting over beer and wings at Nanny O'Briens. They have had some political success, to be sure. When one works with Manafort and the guy who did the Willie Horton ad, you learn to play an aggressive game.

The wings at Nanny's are good, so I'll give them credit for that. But if it is such a small echo chamber, why are they winning? If most people don't agree with them, it would seem no amount of retweeting each others tweets would be very effective. "Astroturf" implies there is no grassroots support, which I think has been disproven in a pretty compelling way given the engagement we've seen for things like the Macklin, the last ANC election, Connecticut Ave lane study, support for more CT Av density. There are actually a lot of residents that agree with them. And I think this continued succession of defeats is contributing to this truly bizarre level of person attacks that have nothing to do with redistricting or any of these other issues. What I don't see is the next generation of residents that will wage the battles to preserve the status quo, so maybe we are nearing the end of an error.

+1

The people coming up WANT bike facilities, WANT walkable neighborhoods, WANT affordable housing WANT diversity, WANT a car free or car light means of living. There simply aren't more entitled boomers who want the 1950's ideals anymore.

Good riddance.

I’ll bite. Since you deleted those previous posts: happy for you to densify Wisconsin and Connecticut and support bike paths etc, and frankly it will add up to gentrification. You can’t do anything about SFHs because we are protected. So we get the best of the both worlds. The only issue is that with redistricting and being called NIMBYs we have no incentive to engage with you and will let you get at each other for little gains. Meanwhile our houses will just go up and there’s maybe 2 “grey hairs” on my entire leafy street. Children are moving in and many of us younger people made money and bought. So you ignore us at your own peril

LOL - Cleveland Park might be gentrified! I was going to say it is hard to believe someone dumb as a rock can afford to buy in Cleveland Park but then I remembered that most lawyers are dumb as rocks.

How is it dumb to let you do exactly what we want you to do while you think you’re sticking it to the so-called nimbys (most of whom are lovely liberal people)?

Liberal people who got theirs and fight tooth and nail to let others into their neightborhood; good liberals who favor parking for their cars over green transportation like bikes.

I don’t see the conflict?

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Anonymous wrote:What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?

So ironic that you reference “stop the steal” when the task force member who pushed the neighborhood split (and is part of the Smart Growth lobby) is so connected to Trumpworld, the national GOP and even Russian meddling in Ukrainian politics. And it’s worth noting that CP Smart Growth has been exposed as a non-transparent, astroturf group formed by a political consultant. It’s basically the same handful of people retweeting each other’s posts in an echo chamber and meeting over beer and wings at Nanny O'Briens. They have had some political success, to be sure. When one works with Manafort and the guy who did the Willie Horton ad, you learn to play an aggressive game.

The wings at Nanny's are good, so I'll give them credit for that. But if it is such a small echo chamber, why are they winning? If most people don't agree with them, it would seem no amount of retweeting each others tweets would be very effective. "Astroturf" implies there is no grassroots support, which I think has been disproven in a pretty compelling way given the engagement we've seen for things like the Macklin, the last ANC election, Connecticut Ave lane study, support for more CT Av density. There are actually a lot of residents that agree with them. And I think this continued succession of defeats is contributing to this truly bizarre level of person attacks that have nothing to do with redistricting or any of these other issues. What I don't see is the next generation of residents that will wage the battles to preserve the status quo, so maybe we are nearing the end of an error.

+1

The people coming up WANT bike facilities, WANT walkable neighborhoods, WANT affordable housing WANT diversity, WANT a car free or car light means of living. There simply aren't more entitled boomers who want the 1950's ideals anymore.

Good riddance.

I’ll bite. Since you deleted those previous posts: happy for you to densify Wisconsin and Connecticut and support bike paths etc, and frankly it will add up to gentrification. You can’t do anything about SFHs because we are protected. So we get the best of the both worlds. The only issue is that with redistricting and being called NIMBYs we have no incentive to engage with you and will let you get at each other for little gains. Meanwhile our houses will just go up and there’s maybe 2 “grey hairs” on my entire leafy street. Children are moving in and many of us younger people made money and bought. So you ignore us at your own peril

If you think Ward 3 is going to be gentrified, then I don't think you understand the meaning of the word in context.

And only the site owner can delete posts. I have no idea what posts were deleted.